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True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)
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« on: March 26, 2013, 03:06:26 PM »
« edited: April 14, 2013, 12:43:07 AM by True Federalist »

Offical Name: Holy Roman Empire of the Latin Peoples
Common Name: Crown of Aragon
Territorial Description: Eastern Spain, Southern France, Southern Italy, mainland Greece, northwest Africa, greater Senegal, Cape Verde Islands, Bermuda, Georgia, East Florida, Greater Antilles,
Capital: Barcelona
Government: Federal Constitutional Empire
Head of State: Emperor Ferdinand VII
Unlike the Holy Roman Empire of the German Peoples, Ferdinand VII is also the king of each of the constituent kingdoms: Grenada, Catalonia, Navarre, Burgundy, Corsica, Sardinia, Sicily, Naples, Thessaloniki, Carthage, Tangiers, Dakar, New Grenada (Haiti, Puerto Rico, & Virgin Islands), New Catalonia (Cuba, Jamaica, & Bermuda Islands), New Burgundy (Florida, Georgia, & Bermuda).
The Corts Imperial controls the Imperial Navies (the Sea Navy, the Air Navy, and the Space Navy), maritime, commercial, and religious law, while the Corts of each individual kingdom handles internal matters and raises a Royal Army. (The Imperial Marines are sometimes considered the 16th Royal Army, but not by those in the Armies or the Marines. Wink)
Level of Freedom:Moderate, full freedom of speech and religion, but Catholicism is the state religion and the House of the Nobles and to a lesser extent the House of the Clergy still retain some degree of independent power at the Corts Imperial. The Corts of each kingdom has only two Houses (Commons and Nobles) instead of three (Commons, Nobles, and Clergy) with the degree of power retained by the House of Nobles in each kingdom varying from as high as Sicily where legislation must be introduced in the House of Nobles and the Commons may only accept or reject to that of New Catalonia where the Nobles may only suggest amendments for the Commons to consider. The Emperor (and his Viceroys) retain a veto power subject to being overridden by a supermajority of each House, the exact supermajority varying between the Cortes. The Emperor may veto a kingdom law approved by his Viceroy, but that rarely happens these days of instant communication and when it does, means a new Viceroy will be appointed.  In the interval between a Viceroy's approval and an Imperial veto, such a law is valid.
Population: 220 million
Languages: Modern Latin is the official imperial language, but each kingdom save that of Dakar and Thessaloniki has its own official vulgar dialect of Latin often named after that realm, while Wolof is the official vulgar tongue of Dakar, and Modern Greek that of Thessaloniki. Basque is still spoken in Navarre, but lacks official status as do a number of other minor tongues. Use of minor tongues is not persecuted, but only Modern Latin and each kingdom's official vulgar tongue receives official recognition and instruction in state schools.
Religion: Roman Catholic 83%, Greek Orthodox 4% (mainly in Thessaloniki), Islam 4% (mainly in Dakar and Carthage), Other Christian 3%, Judaism 2%
Level of Technology and Development: High, with an active space program based out of Cape Canaveral, altho no manned missions have been done by Aragon beyond low earth orbit. It did send one telenaut on a lunar mission launched by Zhōngguó, but that was more for diplomacy's sake than any real interest in manned lunar missions.  Aragon has the technology for such a mission, as it has sent robotic probes to Luna as massive as a manned mission would be. However, it doesn't think the moon has anything of sufficient value to warrant the expense of a manned mission, so it has concentrated on its El Dorado space station for manned space flight. Has considered a manned lunar mission as a test flight for a manned aresian mission, but an aresian mission is at least two decades away and lunar landings aren't that similar to aresian ones.
History: The history of Hispaniola experienced butterflies that lead to Navarre and Aragon instead of Castile and Aragon being joined in a personal union and this happened in the twelfth century. Because of the presence of the Kingdom of Arabia as a Christian country, the drive to head west was muted and instead the Crown of Aragon gave more attention to the Mediterranean. In the Year 1600, Phillip of Aragon was crowned by the Pope as the Holy Roman Emperor of the Latin Peoples, tho those Latin peoples at the periphery of his European realms never acknowledged that.
Interesting Fact:  It has become a tradition in the three New World kingdoms that when a Viceroy wishes to leave office, the Corts of those kingdoms will pass a nonsensical law that the Viceroy grants his assent to so that the Emperor may then veto it and appoint a new Viceroy.  Occasionally these laws will end up not being vetoed by the Emperor, such as when Corts of New Burgundy passed a five morabatí tax on each grave (kilogram) of green cheese to build infrastructure needed by the Imperial Space Navy base at Cape Canaveral.

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True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)
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« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2013, 03:36:45 PM »
« Edited: March 29, 2013, 03:44:08 PM by True Federalist »

Rockefeller, would it be possible to upload your map as PNG instead of a Jpeg?  Jpegs distort the colors a little bit when you blow it up to full size.

Ernest, I noticed you didn't color some of the Bahamas yellow.  Was this intentional?

No, I just missed a few light green dots, I'll color them in when I next go.
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« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2013, 06:56:41 PM »

Official Name: Status Pontificius
Common Name: Papal States or Rome
Territorial Description: Central Italy plus Malta and Elba
Capital: Rome
Government: Absolute Theocracy, but in foreign affairs a protectorate of the Holy Roman Empire of the Latin Peoples
Head of State: Pope Agnus III
Level of Freedom: Medium
Population: 12 million
Languages: Modern Latin is the sole language of government, but most people speak and write Romanesco,and non-seminary schools offer instruction in Romanesco.
Religion: Roman Catholic. Duh!
Level of Technology and Development: Medium.  High tech goods are readily available to the populace, but Religion, Education, Tourism, and Agriculture are the primary industries,
History: Essentially similar to that of OTL Papal States except it was never lost due to Italian Unification.
Interesting Fact 1: Establishing the full particulars of papal infallibility was not a feature of the Sixth Lateran Council (this world's parallel to First Vatican).
Interesting Fact 2: The College of Cardinals includes several Cardinal Abbots and Abbesses in addition to the Cardinal Bishops, Priests, and Deacons of OTL.  Of the 115 cardinal electors that elected Agnus III, 3 were women.
Military: The Marina Pontificia consists mainly of coast guard type vessels, but also twelve Apostle-class hospital ships that in peacetime provide their services in less affluent areas, but in wartime serve as hospital ships for the Imperial Navy.

(Note: I used the last PNG as the basis of this map, adding both East Africa and the Papal States)
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True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)
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« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2013, 10:31:39 AM »

I like your country a lot, but Portugal did not exist after 1450 according to one of the earlier histories.  Can you edit your history to be consistent with the rest of the world? Since Castile's history mentioned its colonies going independent later, perhaps it would have been Aragon (the Holy Roman Empire of the Latin Kingdoms) who founded the colony?

Ah yes I didn't factor that in. Aragon will work, I'll edit it to that history.

Just to be clear, I left the issue of when and if Aragonese colonies went independent vague on purpose. (Indeed, I left whether there were any that went independent vague.)
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« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2013, 07:08:52 PM »


Official Name: United Kingdom of France and England
Common Name: France-England
Territorial Description: England less Wales and Cornwall, Northern France less Brittany, Belgium, Germany west of the Rhine, Trinidad (known as Isle de Kaira in this timeline)
Capital: Rouen
Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Head of State: King Henri XIV
Level of Freedom: High
Population: 88 Million, French 55%, English 30%, Deutsch 10%, Other 5%
Languages: French and English (Both are closer to each other than in OTL.)
Religion: Catholic 51%, other Christian 42%, other 7% (based on the registered profession of the subjects, tho many are in fact secular)
Level of Technology and Development: High
History: The two kingdoms were held in a personal union following the conclusion of the Eighty Years War, but were only legally united into one realm after the Parlement of London granted the colony of Jamestown its independence despite the preferences of the king and the various French parlements.  Hence King James III and his successor King Arthur II made forging their realms into a single unitary state a priority.  Save for Trinidad, the various overseas colonies have been lost due to war or independence movements.
Interesting Fact: London and Antwerp are the primary economic centres of the country, the capital of Rouen is the third largest city, while Paris is now a small university city with a population of only 106,320 as of the last census.
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« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2013, 05:53:45 AM »


Official Name: Republic of Australia
Common Name: Australia
Territorial Description: Confusingly, this world's Australia corresponds to our New Zealand, plus most of the Ross Dependency
Capital: Henriville (OTL Wellington)
Government: Republic
Level of Freedom: High
Population: 6 million people, 36 million sheep
Languages: French 80%, English 40%, Maori 10%
Religion: Church of Australia 60%, Roman Catholic 20%, Other Christian 10%, Other 10%
Level of Technology and Development: Moderate
History: Colonized by France and England beginning in the 18th century following the loss of Jamestown.  Many of the settlers of the northern island (New England) were French Reformationists and thus the colonial administration chose to give them government backing. The southern island (New France) was largely colonized by English Catholic sheep-farmers.  19th century corruption in the royal court and the distance from the United Kingdom led to a desire for an independent republic which was established with assistance from Aragon during PE2.
Interesting Fact: Disparaging terms for Australians include "sheeple" and "shıtizens", as a reference to the sheep farming industry.
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« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2013, 11:57:06 PM »
« Edited: April 01, 2013, 12:04:55 AM by True Federalist »

Official Name: Sultanate of Sulu
Common Name: Sulu
Territorial Description: Southern Philippines, Northern Indonesia, Eastern Malaysia, Brunei, Palau, Western Mirconesia (Yap)
Capital: Jolo
Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Head of State: Sultan Jamalul-Kiram IV
Level of Freedom: Medium, Civil liberty is fairly high, but the Sultan still holds considerable real political and religious power
Population: 32 million
Languages: Wide variety of local languages, but Arabic is used as the language of government and most people can either speak it or an Arabic creole based on their local language.
Religion: Islam is the state religion, but a fairly large number of synthetic fusions of Islam with other religions can be found, of which the largest is Buddhislam, followed by about 25% of the population. Buddhislam considers the Buddha to be one of the pre-Mohammedean prophets of Allah and Nirvanna is the state of perfect union with Allah. Only about 15% of the population does not profess some form of Islam, tho only 30% profess a non-syncretized faith, roughly two-thirds Sunni, one-third Shia. Syncretized Islam developed in Sulu from a combination of tolerance of such syncretized religions combined with a hefty jizya imposed upon those who do not convert to some form of Islam. (Summary: Buddhislam 25%, Sunni Islam 20%, Shia Islam 10%, Other Islamic blends 40%, non-Islamic 15%)
Level of Technology and Development: Moderate
History: The Sultanate of Sulu was able in this timeline to play the competing European powers against each other to not only maintain its independence and influence, but to expand it beyond its OTL historical limits. In addition, Buddhist missionaries from Pagan reached the area at about the same time as Islamic ones did.
Interesting Fact: The Sultanate was the first majority Muslim country to abolish use of the death penalty.
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« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2013, 11:37:00 PM »


Official Name: Kingdom of Kongo
Common Name: Danish Kongo
Territorial Description: much of the Democratic Republic of the Congo except the north and east, Zambia, northern and eastern Angola
Capital: Kongohavn
Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Head of State: King Josef Edvard II of the House of Oldenberg-Kinlaza
Mostly independent, but shares a common Constitutional Court with one judge appointed by the governments of Denmark, Norway, Iceland, Pomerania, Kongo, Java, and Samoa.
Currency: Danish krone
Level of Freedom: High
Population: 84 Million
Languages: Danish is the official language with about 10% fluent only in that language, 20% fluent in Danish and another language, 50% some facility in Danish, 20% unable to speak Danish
Religion: No state church. 40% Reformationist, 30% Roman Catholic, 30% Other
Level of Technology and Development: Moderate, roughly equivalent to that of OTL China.
History: Danish merchants established trading links with the Kingdom of Kongo during the 16th Century which led to increasing involvement in local affairs, eventually leading to the establishment of a formal protectorate in 1804 and annexation in 1875. In the aftermath of PE3, the Danish realm was reorganized as a set of independent kingdoms with a common head of state.  However, when the third son of Queen Elisabeth, Prince Josef Edvard married Princess Marie of the House of Kinlaza, which had ruled Kongo before annexation, it was decided to make the Kingship of Kongo a wedding present in 1981 to the couple with Elisabeth and Josef Edvard I's two older brothers abdicating their rights to the Kingship of Kongo and Josef Edvard renouncing his rights to reign in the other Danish realms. The current king, Josef Edvard II, took the throne in 2011 when his father abdicated in his favor.
Interesting Fact: The primary problem facing Danish Kongo is occasional guerrilla raids launched across the Kongo River from the Obregulan Republic of the Kongo, which the Obregulans deny being responsible for.
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« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2013, 10:52:39 AM »
« Edited: April 05, 2013, 05:04:28 PM by True Federalist »

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Pommerania


Official Name: Federal Kingdom of Denmark, Norway, and Pomerania
Common Name: Crown of Denmark or Greater Denmark
Territorial Description: Norway, Denmark, southwest Sweden, northeast Germany, northwest Poland
Capitals: København (Federal and Danish), Oslo (Norwegian), Danzig (Pomerania)
Government: Constitutional Monarchy. The Federal Presidency rotates on a yearly basis between the three prime ministers
Head of State: King Christian IX
Federal President and Pomeranian Prime Minister: Avraham Bernstein
Danish Prime Minister: Otto Sandøe Bluhme
Norwegian Prime Minister: Gunnar Løvland
Constitutional Court consists of one judge each from not only the three Danish kingdoms, but also the Kingdoms of Kongo and Samoa and the Republics of Iceland and Java.
Level of Freedom: High
Population: 35 million
Languages: Danish, Norwegian, and Pomeranian are coöfficial languages at the federal level, with each language being the sole official language of its kingdom, with the other two recognized as minority languages. (Pomeranian is a German dialect in this timeline and not a West Slavic language as it is in ours.) Swedish is a recognized minority language in Denmark, Wendish and Kashubian are recognized minority languages in Pomerania
Religion: Asatru is a revived Germanic neopaganism that originated in the 18th century that also became associated with Norwegian nationalism is the late 19th century
Denmark: Reformationist 70%, Roman Catholic 15%, Asatru 10%, Other 5%
Norway: Reformationist 55%, Asatru 30%, Roman Catholic 10%, Other 5%
Pommerania: Roman Catholic 60%, Reformationist 20%, Jewish 10%, Asatru 5%, Other 5%
Level of Technology and Development:
History: The Danish realm has seen a number of high points and low points.  At one time ruling all of Scandanavia, Swedish nobles revolted and regained Sweden's independence in 1488.  Traditionally cooperated with Lithuania against Sweden and Poland, which explains how Lithuania was able to settle colonies outside Europe as the Danes never interfered with their their use of the Danish straits connecting the Baltic and North Seas. Pomerania was upgraded from a Duchy to a Kingdom following the dissolution of the northern Holy Roman Empire. The Norsetinget was established as a Norwegian parliament in 1888 and given limited autonomy. In the post PE3 reforms, The Danish Rigsdagen was made into the Federal Parliament and a new Dansktinget established for just Denmark,and the existing Diet of Danzig was renamed the Pommerntag.
Interesting Fact: Despite his name, King Christian is a follower of the Asatru religion.

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« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2013, 04:15:00 PM »

Ernest, you need to include Baden -- afleitch ignored my claim.

I'm not quite certain how much to include in Baden.  If I was simply cutting and pasting your map into my map, that's not a problem.
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« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2013, 11:26:40 PM »

I'd intended the Eighty Years War to be this timeline's version of the Hundred Years War but with no Joan of Arc to revive the French cause, so it would have been in the 14th century or so.  Roughly 1340-1420 but somewhat movable if needed to accommodate other historical needs.
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« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2013, 12:44:58 AM »

Made an update on Aragon in its post, expanding upon its space program.

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=171031.msg3669256#msg3669256
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« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2013, 12:31:46 AM »
« Edited: April 15, 2013, 12:38:29 AM by True Federalist »

Official Name: Republic of Sonola
Common Name: Sonola
Territorial Description: northwest Mexico, southern California, Arizona, Utah, western Colorado
Capital: Nuva Lisboa (New Lisbon) (OTL Los Mochis, Sinaloa)
Government: In theory a presidential republic, in reality a military dictatorship.
President Jose Martinez
Captain General Fidel de Hermosillo
Level of Freedom: Moderate, somewhat higher in Nuva Mar Salada (New Salt Sea)
Population: 18 million
Languages: Castilian is the official language, spoken by roughly 90% of the population. Scots-English is spoken by roughly 80% of those in Nuva Mar Salada, 20% nationwide.
Religion: Catholicism predominates in seven of the eight provinces and the capital district, but the Church of Jesus-Christ and Modern Saints (Romneighism) is the major religion of Nueva Mar Salada.
Level of Technology and Development: Medium and has improved considerably in the past two decades as the current leadership has been by Sonolan standards both fairly low in corruption and in market interference.
History: While not one of the more significant Castilian colonies, it remained loyal to the mad king, Alfonso VII in the 18th century, but declared independence (with Aragonese assistance) in 1825 during PE1. It has been a troubled country for the most part, with a succession of coups, juntas, and other assorted nastiness, to the point that the term Cactus Republic has much the same connotation as Banana Republic does in our world.  When the Romneyists with their unorthodox religious views sought to leave New Caledonia, they settled around Nuva Mar Salada (OTL Great Salt Lake).  The various generals and presidents ruling in New Lisbon have tolerated the Romneighs as they settled an area that had been unsettled and thought unsettlable.  The Romneighs were content in their de facto autonomy because they were left alone for the most part and doubted they could sustain an independent nation. New Zion, the capital of Nueva Mar Salada, is one of the most important commercial centers in Sonola, and so far the revolving door governments in Nuva Lisboa have been content to not kill the golden goose. Has had trouble with Kreutzerin movements over the years, but not of the Obregulan variety
Interesting Fact: Since independence, the longest period of time between coups or other extraordinary changes of government has been the past 22 years since Colonel Fidel de Hermosillo set aside the then ruling junta, leaving the then current figurehead president alone.  He is a fairly popular dictator, and fairly benevolent unless you forget he's the guardian of the republic, making de Hermosillo this timeline's version of Pinochet.

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