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President George S. McGovern (Democrat-South Dakota)/Vice President Wayne Morse (Democrat-Oregon)
 
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Congressman Paul N. "Pete" McCloskey (Republican-California)/Governor Spiro T. Agnew (Republican-Maryland)
 
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Governor George Wallace (American-Alabama)/Attorney Richard B. Kay (American-Ohio)
 
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Mr. Gabriel Green (Universal-Iowa)/Mr. Daniel William Fry (Universal-New Mexico)
 
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Mr. John Hospers (Libertarian-California)/Ms. Theodora Nathan (Libertarian-Oregon)
 
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Total Voters: 55

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« Reply #50 on: April 14, 2013, 11:29:16 PM »


That would probably be an even bigger humiliation to McCloskey than not winning any State...
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« Reply #51 on: April 14, 2013, 11:30:34 PM »

Wallace would probably win Mississippi and Alabama if he has 9% nationally.
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« Reply #52 on: April 15, 2013, 12:46:27 AM »

Wallace would probably win Mississippi and Alabama if he has 9% nationally.

Yeah, you're right. I'd see something like that:



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« Reply #53 on: April 15, 2013, 07:03:58 AM »
« Edited: April 15, 2013, 07:06:44 AM by Senator X »

Well its not like Nixon or Ashbrook would have done any better honestly.  

Maybe 1976 will be fun.  I'm for Jerry Brown/Birch Bayh.  Anyone with me? Smiley

I'd prefer Frank Church/Walter Mondale, but I could definitely support a Frank Church/Birch Bayh ticket.

Frank Church was a phenomenal Senator and 1976 is really his only shot, but with Birch Bayh as Church's VP, Bayh could then have a shot in 1984 if Church wins (plus Birch Bayh is younger so that ticket order would make more sense).  Plus, while I can't say I'd support him, Jerry Brown will have another shot in 1992 (whereas Church only ran in 1976 and Bayh never got enough support to qualify for the primaries, IIRC).  Thoughts?
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« Reply #54 on: April 15, 2013, 07:04:43 AM »

Church/Birch 76!
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« Reply #55 on: April 15, 2013, 09:14:36 AM »

I see that the Republican's plan to nominate a left-winger in order to try to take votes away from McGovern worked well.

Oops. Tongue

Wow, this election doesn't seem to attract nearly as many people.

I just forgot to vote. It didn't help that the candidates didn't inspire much enthusiasm for me either.
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« Reply #56 on: April 15, 2013, 09:43:01 AM »

Whoa. That's the largest majority for anyone in the series thus far, isn't it? Or at least in sometime. Good on McGovern for winning ITTL by basically the margin he lost by IOTL.
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« Reply #57 on: April 15, 2013, 12:22:08 PM »

Well its not like Nixon or Ashbrook would have done any better honestly.  

Maybe 1976 will be fun.  I'm for Jerry Brown/Birch Bayh.  Anyone with me? Smiley

I'd prefer Frank Church/Walter Mondale, but I could definitely support a Frank Church/Birch Bayh ticket.

Frank Church was a phenomenal Senator and 1976 is really his only shot, but with Birch Bayh as Church's VP, Bayh could then have a shot in 1984 if Church wins (plus Birch Bayh is younger so that ticket order would make more sense).  Plus, while I can't say I'd support him, Jerry Brown will have another shot in 1992 (whereas Church only ran in 1976 and Bayh never got enough support to qualify for the primaries, IIRC).  Thoughts?

Sure, I'd support Church-Bayh-Brown.
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« Reply #58 on: April 15, 2013, 12:22:58 PM »

Whoa. That's the largest majority for anyone in the series thus far, isn't it? Or at least in sometime. Good on McGovern for winning ITTL by basically the margin he lost by IOTL.

Largest margin since 1856.
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« Reply #59 on: April 15, 2013, 07:38:17 PM »

So are we going to do '76?
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« Reply #60 on: April 15, 2013, 07:42:39 PM »

How on earth did I miss this? McCloskey, FTR.  After all, he's not a party switcher.
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« Reply #61 on: April 15, 2013, 08:21:34 PM »
« Edited: April 15, 2013, 08:34:18 PM by Captain Cathcon »

I am finally available to get to this from my own computer. Been out of the house late for the last few nights. Obviously, McCloskey McGovern has won. As for his Vice Presidential choice, I apologize. I was so bogged down by all the tiresome McGovern posts in the primaries thread that I was like "Well, there's no frickin' McCloskey voters posting except Oldiesfreak, and a McCloskey/Nixon ticket wouldn't work!" So, thinking myself bereft of votes for McCloskey's VP, I went with the real life nominee.
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« Reply #62 on: April 15, 2013, 08:27:00 PM »

I am finally available to get to this from my own computer. Been out of the house late for the last few nights. Obviously, McCloskey has won. As for his Vice Presidential choice, I apologize. I was so bogged down by all the tiresome McGovern posts in the primaries thread that I was like "Well, there's no frickin' McCloskey voters posting except Oldiesfreak, and a McCloskey/Nixon ticket wouldn't work!" So, thinking myself bereft of votes for McCloskey's VP, I went with the real life nominee.

There's Cath for ya, always biased against heroes of the left Wink. And I think history will remember McCloskey's picking Agnew, a relative political neophyte who was later revealed to have taken over $100,000 in bribes as Governor of Maryland, for VP as one of the dumbest moves in political history.
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« Reply #63 on: April 15, 2013, 08:35:49 PM »

I am finally available to get to this from my own computer. Been out of the house late for the last few nights. Obviously, McCloskey has won. As for his Vice Presidential choice, I apologize. I was so bogged down by all the tiresome McGovern posts in the primaries thread that I was like "Well, there's no frickin' McCloskey voters posting except Oldiesfreak, and a McCloskey/Nixon ticket wouldn't work!" So, thinking myself bereft of votes for McCloskey's VP, I went with the real life nominee.

There's Cath for ya, always biased against heroes of the left Wink. And I think history will remember McCloskey's picking Agnew, a relative political neophyte who was later revealed to have taken over $100,000 in bribes as Governor of Maryland, for VP as one of the dumbest moves in political history.

Yes, the bribes certainly heavily damaged the McCloskey campaign, to the point of him nearly being dropped from the ticket (maybe him being actually dropped? Eh, will be decided when the map is finally issued). This, combined with a general lack of Republican enthusiasm, were principal factors in McCloskey's landslide defeat.

And yeah, I messed up on that McCloskey/McGovern thing. Tongue
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« Reply #64 on: April 15, 2013, 08:41:18 PM »

McCarthy '76?
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« Reply #65 on: April 15, 2013, 08:47:36 PM »

How on earth did I miss this? McCloskey, FTR.  After all, he's not a party switcher.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_McCloskey#Change_of_political_affiliation
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« Reply #66 on: April 19, 2013, 04:53:53 PM »

The 1972 United States Presidential Election
Despite troubles in his first term, the competence that McGovern displayed, the peace that he brought, and the faith the American people had in the President to see them through the rough patch paid off. With great personal popularity and an easy renomination by his own party, he easily outpaced his main candidate, Pete McCloskey, who had been elected in a low key, low turnout primary. While McCloskey tried to win over moderates and liberals, these people stuck to the sitting President. Meanwhile, many conservatives jumped ship to George Wallace's campaign, the libertarian candidate John Hospers won surprising support, and the Universal Party was able to see some success. The election, which was a McGovern landslide both in the popular and electoral vote, would be referred to as the national and historical low point of conservatism not seen since the heyday of the Socialist Party.

President George S. McGovern (Democrat-South Dakota)/Vice President Wayne Morse (Democrat-Oregon) 497 electoral votes, 60% of the popular vote
Governor George Wallace (American-Alabama)/Attorney Richard B. Kay (American-Ohio) 36 electoral votes, 9.1% of the popular vote
Congressman Paul N. "Pete" McCloskey (Republican-California)/Governor Spiro T. Agnew (Republican-Maryland)   4 electoral votes, 18.2% of the popular vote
Mr. John Hospers (Libertarian-California)/Ms. Theodora Nathan (Libertarian-Oregon) 1 electoral vote [Faithless Elector] 5.5% of the popular vote
Mr. Gabriel Green (Universal-Iowa)/Mr. Daniel William Fry (Universal-New Mexico) 0 electoral votes, 7.3% of the popular vote
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« Reply #67 on: April 19, 2013, 05:09:55 PM »

Ooh! Now the longest Republican streak goes to Utah, which has voted Republican since 1948.
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