Opinion of Memphis

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Oh, I'm sure even you are aware that there's a whole cascade of social and ethical order between a sexual free-for-all and banning intercourse. Wanting to go down that cascade from memphis's position doesn't entail wanting to go all the way to the bottom and plunge into the polar sea below.

[opebo]

Oh, I'm sure even you are aware that there's a whole cascade of social and ethical order between a sexual free-for-all and banning intercourse. Wanting to go down that cascade from memphis's position doesn't entail wanting to go all the way to the bottom and plunge into the polar sea below.

I've never noticed memphis having 'a position'.  Does he even get laid?  I hardly think different manners of going about wishful thinking have any actual effect on anything.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Maybe position isn't the right word--particularly in a discussion of sexuality, with you of all people, on Atlas Forum. I really should have known better. memphis's mindset, then.

[Kitteh]

Crazy people on tumblr who believe they're "transracial" or some other bs != the vast majority of people who use the term cisgender. I don't do it out of malice or because I have a chip on my shoulder, just because its a lot less awkward to say than "non-transgender" or something.

[opebo]

Maybe position isn't the right word--particularly in a discussion of sexuality, with you of all people, on Atlas Forum. I really should have known better. memphis's mindset, then.

I've never really noticed any mindset of memphis on this subject, but now I'm curious.  Ah well, I guess I'll never know.  I do recall him being amusing at times though.

[Antonio the Sixth]

According to recent exit polling, 40% of this forum approves of transphobia, sexism, and ignorance.

Way the go guys!

While they might not approve, there is indeed a worryingly large proportion of this forum who thinks such attitudes are tolerable and can be counterbalanced by other factors. Which is absolutely depressing.

[Lief 🗽]

Meh, jfmtcs had a lot of horrible views but I would still vote FF in a poll about him. Doesn't mean I approve of them. Same here.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Crazy people on tumblr who believe they're "transracial" or some other bs != the vast majority of people who use the term cisgender. I don't do it out of malice or because I have a chip on my shoulder, just because its a lot less awkward to say than "non-transgender" or something.

Do people who that word is supposed to apply to even say "cisgender"?

[opebo]

Crazy people on tumblr who believe they're "transracial" or some other bs != the vast majority of people who use the term cisgender. I don't do it out of malice or because I have a chip on my shoulder, just because its a lot less awkward to say than "non-transgender" or something.

Do people who that word is supposed to apply to even say "cisgender"?

I think its the play on the word 'sissy', n'est-ce pas?

[free my dawg]

His ways of trying to prove to us that he respects women made me cringe harder than the ponies>Bill Clinton argument.

[traininthedistance]

Crazy people on tumblr who believe they're "transracial" or some other bs != the vast majority of people who use the term cisgender. I don't do it out of malice or because I have a chip on my shoulder, just because its a lot less awkward to say than "non-transgender" or something.

Do people who that word is supposed to apply to even say "cisgender"?

I've used it to describe myself.  (Often in a string with "straight, white, male, etc etc.", but still.)

It's a useful, neutral word for a concept that actually exists.  And I'm a fan of its etymology.

[traininthedistance]

Crazy people on tumblr who believe they're "transracial" or some other bs != the vast majority of people who use the term cisgender. I don't do it out of malice or because I have a chip on my shoulder, just because its a lot less awkward to say than "non-transgender" or something.

Do people who that word is supposed to apply to even say "cisgender"?

I think its the play on the word 'sissy', n'est-ce pas?

N'est pas.

It's a play on Latin prefixes, cis being the opposite of trans.  As seen in cis and trans molecules from high school chemistry, or Cisalpine and Transalpine Gaul.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

And I'm a fan of its etymology.

Yes. It's an elegant, simple etymology, easy to grasp with minimal Latin and forming an immediate and direct dichotomy. (I'm not sure the concept in question should have such a firm dichotomy--in fact, I'm almost sure it shouldn't--but from a philological perspective it's wonderful.)

[All Along The Watchtower]

this thread...lol

[rejectamenta]

So a person who is born male, identifies solely as a man and is straight is cisterned. I'm not really sure why this level of categorization is needed or even desired, but I'm sure it has some sort of use in specialized conversation.

[Antonio the Sixth]

And I'm a fan of its etymology.

Yes. It's an elegant, simple etymology, easy to grasp with minimal Latin and forming an immediate and direct dichotomy. (I'm not sure the concept in question should have such a firm dichotomy--in fact, I'm almost sure it shouldn't--but from a philological perspective it's wonderful.)

Seconded.

[Joe Republic]

So... should we add a C to LGBTQQIAAP now?

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

So... should we add a C to LGBTQQIAAP now?

What's the P? Did I miss out on the new gay thing?

[Bacon King]

So... should we add a C to LGBTQQIAAP now?

What's the P? Did I miss out on the new gay thing?

Pansexual?

[RI]

Identifying as cisgendered is about as useful as identifying as a non-lawyer or not a paper bag.

[traininthedistance]

Identifying as cisgendered is about as useful as identifying as a non-lawyer or not a paper bag.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IANAL

Yeah, pretty useful.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

FF; the forum has overreacted massively, and Wyodon calling him a "prick" is so over the line.

[RI]

Identifying as cisgendered is about as useful as identifying as a non-lawyer or not a paper bag.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IANAL

Yeah, pretty useful.

Perhaps it was a bad example, but this is only relevant in incredibly specific circumstances. No one lives describing their primary role in life as "non-lawyer" on a daily basis.

[traininthedistance]

Identifying as cisgendered is about as useful as identifying as a non-lawyer or not a paper bag.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IANAL

Yeah, pretty useful.

Perhaps it was a bad example, but again, this is only relevant in incredibly specific circumstances.

Eh, most words are only useful in specific circumstances.  I wouldn't really bring up "cisgender" unless there was a discussion about gender issues going on.  But since there is such a discussion going on, of course it's relevant.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

FF; the forum has overreacted massively, and Wyodon calling him a "prick" is so over the line.

There are few other words I can use to describe a misogynist; one who, I would remind you, would probably like to see you hanged in the town square for having a blue avatar.

It could be worse. People on the IRC have said far unkinder words, ones that I'm not going to repeat here out of respect for privacy and the TOS.

Memphis has been kind to me personally; I could care less about his vile views regarding women.