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« Reply #250 on: January 01, 2014, 07:55:04 PM »

We need more women in the us senate!
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« Reply #251 on: January 01, 2014, 08:04:21 PM »


What we need is young progressive women like Tulsi Gabbard in the Senate who can stay there for many years and possibly run for a higher office, we don't need people like Feinstein and Hanabusa who intend to die in the Senate and rarely support progressive causes.
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« Reply #252 on: January 01, 2014, 08:21:06 PM »


What we need is young progressive women like Tulsi Gabbard in the Senate who can stay there for many years and possibly run for a higher office, we don't need people like Feinstein and Hanabusa who intend to die in the Senate and rarely support progressive causes.
Wow, Feinstein voted against the Defense of Marriage Act in 1996 when progressives like Mikulski, Leahy, Harkin voted in favor. So she's far from being a DINO.
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« Reply #253 on: January 01, 2014, 08:25:38 PM »


What we need is young progressive women like Tulsi Gabbard in the Senate who can stay there for many years and possibly run for a higher office, we don't need people like Feinstein and Hanabusa who intend to die in the Senate and rarely support progressive causes.
Wow, Feinstein voted against the Defense of Marriage Act in 1996 when progressives like Mikulski, Leahy, Harkin voted in favor. So she's far from being a DINO.

Who cares about DOMA when Feinstein is practically the spokesperson for the NSA voted for the Iraq War, Patriot Act, NDAA, supported SOPA/PIPA, war in Syria/Libya the list goes on and on she is clearly a DINO and is the furthest thing from a progressive as you can get. The sooner she is out of the Senate the better!
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« Reply #254 on: January 01, 2014, 08:31:52 PM »


What we need is young progressive women like Tulsi Gabbard in the Senate who can stay there for many years and possibly run for a higher office, we don't need people like Feinstein and Hanabusa who intend to die in the Senate and rarely support progressive causes.
Wow, Feinstein voted against the Defense of Marriage Act in 1996 when progressives like Mikulski, Leahy, Harkin voted in favor. So she's far from being a DINO.

Who cares about DOMA when Feinstein is practically the spokesperson for the NSA voted for the Iraq War, Patriot Act, NDAA, supported SOPA/PIPA, war in Syria/Libya the list goes on and on she is clearly a DINO and is the furthest thing from a progressive as you can get. The sooner she is out of the Senate the better!

Lol no, she's just not a LOLibertarian 2/3 of atlasians and she understands the fact that the Patriot Act is a lesser evil than terrorist attacks
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« Reply #255 on: January 01, 2014, 08:47:40 PM »


What we need is young progressive women like Tulsi Gabbard in the Senate who can stay there for many years and possibly run for a higher office, we don't need people like Feinstein and Hanabusa who intend to die in the Senate and rarely support progressive causes.
Wow, Feinstein voted against the Defense of Marriage Act in 1996 when progressives like Mikulski, Leahy, Harkin voted in favor. So she's far from being a DINO.

Who cares about DOMA when Feinstein is practically the spokesperson for the NSA voted for the Iraq War, Patriot Act, NDAA, supported SOPA/PIPA, war in Syria/Libya the list goes on and on she is clearly a DINO and is the furthest thing from a progressive as you can get. The sooner she is out of the Senate the better!

Lol no, she's just not a LOLibertarian 2/3 of atlasians and she understands the fact that the Patriot Act is a lesser evil than terrorist attacks

The Patriot Act isn't the reason we haven't had a legitimate terrorist attack in years.
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« Reply #256 on: January 01, 2014, 09:35:45 PM »

If Hanabusa wins, then it's all but confirmed Gabbard will succeed her, but she'll probably retire closer to 2026 or 2032 than 2020, and if she leaves, it'll be for a cabinet post (possibly VetAff). She's not going into a bloody primary for one term.

To give her credit, she's moved to the left, and like I said, she'd be perfect if someone like her ran in a state like Iowa or even Michigan, but she's not progressive enough for somewhere like Hawaii. Although her lifetime vote% is a 90%, her lifetime crucial vote % drops to an 80%, which would put her around the 34th-36th most progressive Senator if that holds up (right next to Klobuchar and above Feinstein, actually).
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« Reply #257 on: January 01, 2014, 09:38:56 PM »
« Edited: January 01, 2014, 09:53:07 PM by badgate »

Did not know Hanabusa thought Murray-Ryan went too far.

This pleases me. My endorsement still stands, but this gives me much more faith that she'll stand with us if Schatz loses.

Jesus Christ you'd think she was Mark Pryor or something reading this lol
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« Reply #258 on: January 05, 2014, 07:18:03 PM »


What we need is young progressive women like Tulsi Gabbard in the Senate who can stay there for many years and possibly run for a higher office, we don't need people like Feinstein and Hanabusa who intend to die in the Senate and rarely support progressive causes.
Wow, Feinstein voted against the Defense of Marriage Act in 1996 when progressives like Mikulski, Leahy, Harkin voted in favor. So she's far from being a DINO.

Who cares about DOMA when Feinstein is practically the spokesperson for the NSA voted for the Iraq War, Patriot Act, NDAA, supported SOPA/PIPA, war in Syria/Libya the list goes on and on she is clearly a DINO and is the furthest thing from a progressive as you can get. The sooner she is out of the Senate the better!

Lol no, she's just not a LOLibertarian 2/3 of atlasians and she understands the fact that the Patriot Act is a lesser evil than terrorist attacks

If Bush had paid any attention to the August 6th 2001 memo, 9/11 would never have happened.
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« Reply #259 on: January 08, 2014, 07:42:48 PM »

'Not a great move on Hanabusa's part to call Schatz the candidate of the 'kingmakers' when a big part of her campaign is, 'ya know, Inouye.
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« Reply #260 on: January 08, 2014, 10:28:52 PM »

'Not a great move on Hanabusa's part to call Schatz the candidate of the 'kingmakers' when a big part of her campaign is, 'ya know, Inouye.

Even more cringeworthy is her press release about the LCV. She said that because Schatz didn't have a rating yet from them and Hanabusa's was a 96%, she was better on the environment. Problem is, Schatz doesn't need a ranking from the LCV: he has their endorsement.

Not as bad as EMILY'S List trying to tie him to Mitch McConnell, but still pretty bad.
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« Reply #261 on: January 08, 2014, 10:39:53 PM »

Looks like she's blowing a winnable race from outside, but ground reality may be quite different. Does the old or newer machine produce more votes?
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« Reply #262 on: January 08, 2014, 10:59:17 PM »

If Hanabusa wins the primary, it will be in spite of her campaign.
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« Reply #263 on: January 21, 2014, 11:21:26 AM »

Schatz up for another quarter. He outraised Hababusa 705K to 450K.
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« Reply #264 on: January 21, 2014, 06:42:55 PM »


Wonderful News! Smiley
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« Reply #265 on: January 26, 2014, 04:15:10 AM »

Ex-Govs Ariyoshi and Cayetano are endorsing Hanabusa. They've also both backed Abercrombie's primary challenger.
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« Reply #266 on: January 26, 2014, 05:48:59 PM »


Allen West for Senate!  We need more African-American Senators.
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« Reply #267 on: January 26, 2014, 06:47:50 PM »


Allen West for Senate!  We need more African-American Senators.

Or Mia Love for Congress, along the same lines.
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« Reply #268 on: January 26, 2014, 06:51:47 PM »


Allen West for Senate!  We need more African-American Senators.

Or Mia Love for Congress, along the same lines.

Unfair comparison! Hanabusa's no Allen West or Mia Love.
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« Reply #269 on: January 26, 2014, 07:55:50 PM »


Allen West for Senate!  We need more African-American Senators.

Or Mia Love for Congress, along the same lines.

Unfair comparison! Hanabusa's no Allen West or Mia Love.

Our point was that a diverse candidate has to be a good candidate, diversity for the sake of diversity does not help. Having a diverse candidate just because you want to, regardless of their stances (or the district's demographics), is a bit of tokenism.

Hanabusa, at least in my own opinion, is not a good candidate, but in any case should be elected or not elected based on her merits, not her diversity.
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« Reply #270 on: January 26, 2014, 08:17:55 PM »


Allen West for Senate!  We need more African-American Senators.

Or Mia Love for Congress, along the same lines.

Unfair comparison! Hanabusa's no Allen West or Mia Love.

Our point was that a diverse candidate has to be a good candidate, diversity for the sake of diversity does not help. Having a diverse candidate just because you want to, regardless of their stances (or the district's demographics), is a bit of tokenism.

Hanabusa, at least in my own opinion, is not a good candidate, but in any case should be elected or not elected based on her merits, not her diversity.

I agree but my point is that diversity is a matter of degree. Unless windjammer actually supports Allen West and Mia Love then he's not just going for diversity for the sake of diversity. He's considering diversity given that the relative differences between the candidates are small. It's one factor of many, not the biggest by far.

Hardly anyone (and I don't think anyone on this forum) will support a candidate solely because of "diversity". That is what people miss about organizations like Emily's List. They're picking between candidates that are already going to be 90% similar on voting issues. Take me- a huge proponent of more women in politics, but would never even have a shadow of a thought about crossing over to the GOP for that sake, even for an ultra moderate (like Christie Whitman or someone absurd like that that the GOP would never nominate anyway).
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« Reply #271 on: February 07, 2014, 02:08:58 PM »

Schatz ranked the most liberal Senator.
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« Reply #272 on: February 07, 2014, 02:35:15 PM »
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That puts Hanabusa at 73% liberal, which would be around Klobuchar, Tim Johnson and Elizabeth Warren if she was a Senator. A little skeptical that she's more liberal than Bernie, but whatever.

I still prefer Schatz, but if she's a less corporatist, moderate hero-ish Klobuchar, I'd be able to stomach her candidacy. It's not like she's Mark Pryor.
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« Reply #273 on: February 07, 2014, 06:03:11 PM »

That puts Hanabusa at 73% liberal, which would be around Klobuchar, Tim Johnson and Elizabeth Warren if she was a Senator. A little skeptical that she's more liberal than Bernie, but whatever.

I still prefer Schatz, but if she's a less corporatist, moderate hero-ish Klobuchar, I'd be able to stomach her candidacy. It's not like she's Mark Pryor.
It's the National Journal. They can't differentiate a vote opposing something from the left or the right.
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« Reply #274 on: February 07, 2014, 06:11:04 PM »

That puts Hanabusa at 73% liberal, which would be around Klobuchar, Tim Johnson and Elizabeth Warren if she was a Senator. A little skeptical that she's more liberal than Bernie, but whatever.

I still prefer Schatz, but if she's a less corporatist, moderate hero-ish Klobuchar, I'd be able to stomach her candidacy. It's not like she's Mark Pryor.
It's the National Journal. They can't differentiate a vote opposing something from the left or the right.


Yeah. They rank Steve Chabot as the most conservative in the House, but that's just because he votes for everything Boehner wants. Whenever Steve Stockman or Tim Hueslkamp oppose something from the right, it's marked down as them voting with the Democrats. Same thing happens with Democrats voting down bills for not being liberal enough.
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