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« Reply #25 on: April 23, 2013, 03:43:50 PM »

If Schweitzer runs then definitely no, if for some reason he opts out then yes.
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« Reply #26 on: April 23, 2013, 03:47:46 PM »

Thank God. Come on, Schweitzer!
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« Reply #27 on: April 23, 2013, 04:22:26 PM »

Schweitzer will certainly be a more powerful voice in the Democratic caucus against gun control than Baucus ever was (though in the long run, this is an issue that mainstream Democrats will soon be avoiding giving answers on, like Republicans are with gay rights). Whoever said Schweitzer will be further left than Baucus is...very mistaken. Electorally, this seat seems pretty clear-cut: easy Democratic hold with Schweitzer, Republican gain without him. Either way, I think, the seat will move right.
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« Reply #28 on: April 23, 2013, 04:27:24 PM »

Schweitzer will certainly be a more powerful voice in the Democratic caucus against gun control than Baucus ever was (though in the long run, this is an issue that mainstream Democrats will soon be avoiding giving answers on, like Republicans are with gay rights).

Howard Dean, who has an A rating from the NRA himself, said last week that Schweizter would have likely supported Manchin-Toomey.
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« Reply #29 on: April 23, 2013, 04:34:22 PM »

Schweitzer will certainly be a more powerful voice in the Democratic caucus against gun control than Baucus ever was (though in the long run, this is an issue that mainstream Democrats will soon be avoiding giving answers on, like Republicans are with gay rights).

Howard Dean, who has an A rating from the NRA himself, said last week that Schweizter would have likely supported Manchin-Toomey.

Running for office in Montana, but depending for money on national Democrats, I doubt Schweitzer will be taking a position on it. If something like it were to come up I agree he would vote for it, but I think, however slightly, replacing Baucus with Schweitzer shifts the rhetoric on gun rights right just a teeny bit. (Which, of course, is the long term trend as well).
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« Reply #30 on: April 23, 2013, 04:55:40 PM »

Awesome news. I'm a big Schweitzer fan, and it will be great to see him in the Senate.

A senate with Markey and Schweitzer in it is far better than a senate with Kerry and Baucus, so I guess that is a good thing.

Part of me doesn't want Schweitzer to run if only because it may harm his odds of running 2016,which I really want him to do (he is one of my favorite pols).

That being said, great to see the netroots out backing him already (PCCC and D Kos) instead of whining about gun control or something and dragging there feet about supporting an actual progressive politician.

Schweitzer is awesome, and would be a great messenger of the progressive cause for rural and white voters, he already won over a red state with red meat populism.
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« Reply #31 on: April 23, 2013, 06:18:04 PM »

Part of me doesn't want Schweitzer to run if only because it may harm his odds of running 2016,which I really want him to do (he is one of my favorite pols).

May?  If he runs for Senate, it's a clear sign that he's not running for president in 2016.  He's not going to start running for president a month after being sworn in as Senator.

Being elected to the Senate would certainly put him on Hillary Clinton's running mate shortlist though.
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« Reply #32 on: April 23, 2013, 06:42:01 PM »

Awesome news. I'm a big Schweitzer fan, and it will be great to see him in the Senate.

A senate with Markey and Schweitzer in it is far better than a senate with Kerry and Baucus, so I guess that is a good thing.

Part of me doesn't want Schweitzer to run if only because it may harm his odds of running 2016,which I really want him to do (he is one of my favorite pols).

That being said, great to see the netroots out backing him already (PCCC and D Kos) instead of whining about gun control or something and dragging there feet about supporting an actual progressive politician.

Schweitzer is awesome, and would be a great messenger of the progressive cause for rural and white voters, he already won over a red state with red meat populism.

He is only 57.  He could run in any of the 2020's elections.  He would still be younger than Reagan and Hillary if he runs in 2024.  He would be the same age as McCain in 2028.  Age is probably a bigger issue for D's, but hardly insurmountable for him.
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« Reply #33 on: April 23, 2013, 06:45:08 PM »

Baucus has been feuding with fellow Dems for a while now.

http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=7B677A40-F18F-4341-AC72-237519B76664
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« Reply #34 on: April 23, 2013, 06:55:44 PM »

I think this is a perfect opportunity for Schweitzer.  He can grab this seat and do several things.  1) Obviously keep it out of the GOP column, 2) Increases national exposure for a possible POTUS bid in 2016 or 2020.

How old is Schweitzer, anyway?
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« Reply #35 on: April 23, 2013, 06:58:06 PM »

I think this is a perfect opportunity for Schweitzer.  He can grab this seat and do several things.  1) Obviously keep it out of the GOP column, 2) Increases national exposure for a possible POTUS bid in 2016 or 2020.

How old is Schweitzer, anyway?

57.
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« Reply #36 on: April 23, 2013, 07:09:29 PM »

I think this is a perfect opportunity for Schweitzer.  He can grab this seat and do several things.  1) Obviously keep it out of the GOP column, 2) Increases national exposure for a possible POTUS bid in 2016 or 2020.

It wouldn't be for a POTUS bid in 2016.  It'd be for a VPOTUS bid in the same year.  (Or if that doesn't work, POTUS in 2020.)
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« Reply #37 on: April 23, 2013, 07:21:38 PM »

I think this is a perfect opportunity for Schweitzer.  He can grab this seat and do several things.  1) Obviously keep it out of the GOP column, 2) Increases national exposure for a possible POTUS bid in 2016 or 2020.

How old is Schweitzer, anyway?

57.

Really?  I thought he was in his 60's, but this is even better.  He will be 65 by January 20, 2021, which means he would only be 73 by January 20, 2029.  Great timing for Gov. Schweitzer.
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« Reply #38 on: April 23, 2013, 10:27:20 PM »

Brian Schweitzer just posted this article on his Facebook page with this choice quote:

"The two-term governor left office in January and would be the immediate front-runner for the Democratic nomination if he jumped into the Senate race."

All indications point towards him running.
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« Reply #39 on: April 23, 2013, 11:13:55 PM »

Good riddance
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« Reply #40 on: April 24, 2013, 01:26:05 AM »

Brian Schweitzer just posted this article on his Facebook page with this choice quote:

"The two-term governor left office in January and would be the immediate front-runner for the Democratic nomination if he jumped into the Senate race."

All indications point towards him running.

Schweitzer also keeps posting articles about this on his FB page. Not exactly subtle.
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« Reply #41 on: April 24, 2013, 01:28:09 AM »


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This is the committee also responsible for insisting on 50 state exchanges instead of a single federal one right?
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« Reply #42 on: April 24, 2013, 01:30:54 AM »
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This is the committee also responsible for insisting on 50 state exchanges instead of a single federal one right?

Baucus certainly put a lot of effort in to kill the public option. There were Senators who were from areas very unfriendly to Obama that were pushing hard for the public option, like Rockefeller, and yet Baucus made sure it didn't happen.

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/60739-public-option-fails-in-senate-committee

Here are the Democrats who voted no there

Baucus - good riddance
Carper - has a freaking primary me sign on him
Conrad - good riddance
Lincoln - good riddance
Bill Nelson - needs a good primary, too
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« Reply #43 on: April 24, 2013, 01:43:51 AM »

^^ Yeah, can't forget Lieberman either: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PPACA#Senate

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The Senate and the filibuster is pathetic. So is the $$$-backed "centrism" on these issues.

And now think that the Senate is the more left-wing chamber compared to the House...

What a plutocracy. 2010 and 2014 being so rough is Democrats' own doing.
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« Reply #44 on: April 24, 2013, 01:53:14 AM »

Baucus - Not even a Democrat, not even a Republican. The best example of a K Street Senator.
Lincoln - Didn't really seem awful either
Conrad - Didn't seem awful
Carper - He can go too
Bill Nelson - It's not like Florida has anyone better on the bench

But I'm glad Fredo Lieberman is out most of all. As far as foreign policy's concerned he's a Republican, and his vote against the public option was a disgrace to America.
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« Reply #45 on: April 24, 2013, 03:07:38 AM »

Brian Schweitzer just posted this article on his Facebook page with this choice quote:

"The two-term governor left office in January and would be the immediate front-runner for the Democratic nomination if he jumped into the Senate race."

All indications point towards him running.

That isn't necessarily determinative.  Schweitzer said back in February that his staff posts stuff on his FB page, not him, and that they tend to post stories promoting him, or that suggest he might run for Senate or President or whatever, but it doesn't necessarily mean that he's going to get into the race:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=164982.msg3634362#msg3634362

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That said, the other leaks sure make it sound like he's considering it.
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« Reply #46 on: April 24, 2013, 03:35:59 AM »

The fact that he's out of office and has "staff" managing stuff like that, though...
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« Reply #47 on: April 24, 2013, 03:37:31 AM »

The fact that he's out of office and has "staff" managing stuff like that, though...


Up until yesterday, it was assumed that that's because he was running for president.  Tongue
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« Reply #48 on: April 24, 2013, 04:00:21 PM »

Awesome news. I'm a big Schweitzer fan, and it will be great to see him in the Senate.

A senate with Markey and Schweitzer in it is far better than a senate with Kerry and Baucus, so I guess that is a good thing.

Part of me doesn't want Schweitzer to run if only because it may harm his odds of running 2016,which I really want him to do (he is one of my favorite pols).

That being said, great to see the netroots out backing him already (PCCC and D Kos) instead of whining about gun control or something and dragging there feet about supporting an actual progressive politician.

Schweitzer is awesome, and would be a great messenger of the progressive cause for rural and white voters, he already won over a red state with red meat populism.

With it looking increasingly likely that Hillary will run again, I think it might be better for Schweitzer just to forfeit a '16 run and focus on getting a seat in the Senate instead.

He's still young enough to run as far off as 2020 or 2024, and could still be a VP contender in 2016. 
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« Reply #49 on: April 25, 2013, 11:59:49 AM »

Schweitzer seems to be sporting a beard now.



One more reason to support him. Wink
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