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« on: April 26, 2013, 06:06:01 PM »
Have we gone too far? Should drug users be put back in jail?
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« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2013, 06:07:11 PM »
Of course not.
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« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2013, 06:09:04 PM »
Please tell your senators you don't want to roll back our drug laws that have kept users out of jail!
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« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2013, 06:11:31 PM »
Here's to hoping those proposals don't have the votes.
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« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2013, 06:20:05 PM »
If they're using illegal drugs, yes.  Otherwise, no.
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« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2013, 06:46:15 PM »
« Edited: April 26, 2013, 06:53:16 PM by Governor Scott »
Drug users: no.  Drug dealers: yes.  I don't know what kind of radically authoritarian, cold-hearted person would support tossing ordinary drug users behind bars.
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« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2013, 06:54:15 PM »
Quote from: Governor Scott on April 26, 2013, 06:46:15 PM
Drug users: no.  Drug dealers: yes.  I don't know what kind of radically authoritarian, cold-hearted person would support tossing drug users behind bars.

Yeah, this is unbelievably stupid. There is no logically consistent reason whatsoever to punish someone for using drugs. As someone who opposes drug uses and thinks drugs should be generally eradicated (though I'm open to discussion with regard to the "softer" ones), it is pretty much obvious that if you hold this belief the people who use drugs are victims, not criminals.
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« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2013, 06:54:56 PM »
Wrong board, BTW.
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« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2013, 06:57:06 PM »
No of course not, but I believe certain drugs should be illegal, and we should help addicts, the people we should go after are the dealers.

There is a huge Atlasian Senate debate right now about this, Antonio.
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« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2013, 07:00:10 PM »
Quote from: Senator Matt on April 26, 2013, 06:57:06 PM
No of course not, but I believe certain drugs should be illegal, and we should help addicts, the people we should go after are the dealers.

There is a huge Atlasian Senate debate right now about this, Antonio.

Ooops, sorry. Tongue The OP was really worded as an context-free policy question, though.
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« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2013, 07:03:10 PM »
Yeah, I guess I should have made it clearer.
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« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2013, 07:06:21 PM »
Like Scott said, users, in almost all cases, no. Dealers, in serious cases, yes.
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« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2013, 07:11:32 PM »
As far as I can tell, selling for profit is illegal in the case of all hard drugs. Only Marijuana, and of course Alcohol and Tobacco, are completely legalized.
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« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2013, 07:19:40 PM »
Is there violence involved? If not, no.
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« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2013, 09:21:18 PM »
I don't support jailing users or dealers unless some other crime, an actual CRIME, is involved.
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« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2013, 10:04:56 PM »
No. I generally subscribe to the idea that filling jails with non-violent offenders is a really, really terrible idea - it's not something you find a whole lot of at least in free societies.

And to the point, no. Drugs should be controlled like alcohol. You get high or whatnot and hurt someone or worse, then you get in trouble.   
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« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2013, 09:59:45 AM »
Quote from: Oldiesfreak1854 on April 26, 2013, 06:20:05 PM
If they're using illegal drugs, yes.  Otherwise, no.

What on earth is the purpouse of incarcerating a drug user, who doesn't do a harm to anybody else, beside overcrowding already badly overcrowded prisons?
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« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2013, 10:10:52 AM »
Given than drug addiction is a illness, that doesn't make sense.
They should be offered care, or, in worst cases be sent in rehab if they are a danger to other people.

But jail isn't the place for sick people.
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« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2013, 09:11:00 PM »
God no. Addiction is an issue of mental health, not criminal justice.
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« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2013, 10:52:41 PM »
Quote from: Representative Wyodon on April 27, 2013, 09:11:00 PM
God no. Addiction is an issue of mental health, not criminal justice.
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« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2013, 11:06:53 PM »
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« Reply #21 on: April 28, 2013, 10:15:34 AM »
Yes of course.
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« Reply #22 on: April 28, 2013, 10:38:36 AM »
« Edited: April 28, 2013, 10:40:46 AM by Governor Scott »
I think the primary motive behind supporting re-criminalizing drug use is purely emotional.  Because it "feels good" to force your lifestyle choices on other people, rather than give them the help they really need.  None of the ten people who support treating users as criminals have provided any rationale for doing so, so I have to assume they're either a) operating on selfish desires, or b) just blindly follow state propaganda.  Either way, I'm happy to see that 2/3 of Atlasians so far have some grasp on reality.
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« Reply #23 on: April 28, 2013, 12:40:18 PM »
I support mandatory rehabilitation programs for users of "harder" drugs (heroin, cocaine, etc) and legalization of "softer" drugs (marijuana, ecstasy, LSD, etc). But putting drug users in jail, the same as rapists, murderers, etc is a terrible, terrible idea.
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« Reply #24 on: April 28, 2013, 05:03:25 PM »
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I believe all the soft drugs are legal (I know marijuana and most hallucinogens are)
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