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« on: May 04, 2013, 05:47:26 PM »
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« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2013, 06:14:15 PM »
Perhaps I'm failing to see something that must be obvious, but, what is the difference between this Bill and the Power To The People Amendment that the Mideast is voting for right now?
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« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2013, 06:18:47 PM »
Quote from: LumineVonReuental on May 04, 2013, 06:14:15 PM
Perhaps I'm failing to see something that must be obvious, but, what is the difference between this Bill and the Power To The People Amendment that the Mideast is voting for right now?

Nothing.  This is a bill, not an amendment.
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« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2013, 05:16:17 PM »
Seeing no further debate, this is brought to a final vote.  Members will vote AYE, NAY, or ABSTAIN.  This will be a 48-hour vote.
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« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2013, 05:18:47 PM »
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« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2013, 05:32:11 PM »
NAY

This is quite clearly not the way The People want to go on this issue, and I'll be voting on their behalf.
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« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2013, 05:48:53 PM »
Not even I would have the balls to try and push something through that so clearly was not supported by the voting public.
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« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2013, 05:52:06 PM »
Quote from: President Marokai on May 06, 2013, 05:48:53 PM
Not even I would have the balls to try and push something through that so clearly was not supported by the voting public.

So I have more balls than you... what's your point?  The people can propose an amendment if they want.  Until then, we should have something, shouldn't we?  Otherwise there's no way to ratify an amendment.
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« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2013, 05:54:54 PM »
Perhaps it should be something that didn't manage a whopping two Ayes in a referendum. Or just something not completely awful. Like, say, Tmth's compromise idea that has apparently been entirely forgotten.
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« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2013, 05:57:21 PM »
Quote from: President Marokai on May 06, 2013, 05:54:54 PM
Perhaps it should be something that didn't manage a whopping two Ayes in a referendum. Or just something not completely awful. Like, say, Tmth's compromise idea that has apparently been entirely forgotten.

by "entirely forgotten" do you mean the bill that's currently being voted on right now?
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« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2013, 05:58:05 PM »
Nay. As Talleyrand said, it's quite clear that the Mideast voters don't want this.
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« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2013, 06:01:47 PM »
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Quote from: President Marokai on May 06, 2013, 05:54:54 PM
Perhaps it should be something that didn't manage a whopping two Ayes in a referendum. Or just something not completely awful. Like, say, Tmth's compromise idea that has apparently been entirely forgotten.

by "entirely forgotten" do you mean the bill that's currently being voted on right now?

I'm sorry, I'm completely baffled by why this is even being debated at all, then. I was operating under the assumption that you wouldn't be debating two completely conflicting things at once; silly me, I guess.
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« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2013, 06:04:45 PM »
Quote from: President Marokai on May 06, 2013, 06:01:47 PM
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Quote from: President Marokai on May 06, 2013, 05:54:54 PM
Perhaps it should be something that didn't manage a whopping two Ayes in a referendum. Or just something not completely awful. Like, say, Tmth's compromise idea that has apparently been entirely forgotten.

by "entirely forgotten" do you mean the bill that's currently being voted on right now?

I'm sorry, I'm completely baffled by why this is even being debated at all, then. I was operating under the assumption that you wouldn't be debating two completely conflicting things at once; silly me, I guess.

So because I think the other amendment is terrible, I shouldn't introduce my own version?  I'm not understanding why you care so much what the Mideast does with this.  Wasn't that the point of giving the regions the right to do what they want?
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« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2013, 06:09:01 PM »
Yes, which, this, is evidently not what this region wants to do.
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« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2013, 06:15:16 PM »
Quote from: President Marokai on May 06, 2013, 06:09:01 PM
Yes, which, this, is evidently not what this region wants to do.

The Mideast Assembly isn't the "region"?  The Assembly was voted on by the people; the Assembly is one way to pass amendments, even as the federal amendment said.  Why is it that you think the Assembly should be treated as inferior to the will of a referendum where only 28% of the people voted?  And only 54% of those actually voted "No".  So 15% of the region voted against this amendment.  I hardly think that anything is clear about what "this region" wants to do.
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« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2013, 06:47:52 PM »
NAY!
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« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2013, 10:50:04 PM »
Despite personal support for it, I will veto this if it passes.
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« Reply #17 on: May 07, 2013, 01:52:19 AM »
Abstain
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« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2013, 05:21:27 PM »
Voting is now closed.  The AYEs are 1, and the NAYs are 3, with 1 Not Voting.  The NAYs have it, and the bill has failed.
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