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« Reply #100 on: February 09, 2014, 06:32:48 AM »

Live results and analysis by the Swiss broadcaster SRF can be followed here:

http://www.srf.ch/livestream/player/srf-1
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« Reply #101 on: February 09, 2014, 06:33:45 AM »

SRF will have 1st Switzerland-wide prediction out soon ...
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« Reply #102 on: February 09, 2014, 06:34:38 AM »

Do you know what the initiative with the most turnout was so far in Swiss history ?

That was the EWR-initiative in 1992 with a turnout of 78%.
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« Reply #103 on: February 09, 2014, 06:35:58 AM »

Live results and analysis by the Swiss broadcaster SRF can be followed here:

http://www.srf.ch/livestream/player/srf-1

You can only watch this with a Swiss IP ...
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« Reply #104 on: February 09, 2014, 06:37:36 AM »

Live results and analysis by the Swiss broadcaster SRF can be followed here:

http://www.srf.ch/livestream/player/srf-1

You can only watch this with a Swiss IP ...

Didn't know that. Tongue

Anyway, the first full cantonal result has been released now:

Aargau: 55,2% yes, 44,8% no to the mass immigration initiative

https://www.ag.ch/de/startseite_portal/startseite_portal.jsp
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« Reply #105 on: February 09, 2014, 06:40:47 AM »

55% Yes in Aargau ?

Then it looks like that the initiative will likely fail.

Aargau is usually about 6-7% more to the right than Switzerland.
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« Reply #106 on: February 09, 2014, 06:48:54 AM »

55% Yes in Aargau ?

Then it looks like that the initiative will likely fail.

Aargau is usually about 6-7% more to the right than Switzerland.

You may be right. Then again, Ticino is expected to vote for the initiative very clearly.

I have to leave now - my second shift at the local polling station is going to start soon. Feel free to feed the forum with additional results, Tender! Wink
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« Reply #107 on: February 09, 2014, 06:49:11 AM »

Currently I predict for Switzerland as a whole:

51.5% - Pro mass-immigration
48.5% - Against mass-immigration
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« Reply #108 on: February 09, 2014, 07:55:48 AM »

Mass immigration is now projected at 50-50 according to the exit pollster.

This could come down to a few votes ...

Keeping abortions publicly funded is projected to win with 70-30.
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« Reply #109 on: February 09, 2014, 08:55:05 AM »

The anti-mass immigration initiative will finally win.

Currently, there's a 40.000 vote lead Switzerland-wide, with only the cantons of Zurich, Bern and Solothurn missing.

In Zurich, the "no" is projected to have a 30.000 vote lead, but in Bern the "yes" has currently a 33.000 vote lead, with just a bit missing.

So, even if Solothurn votes "no", the result will be "yes" for Switzerland.
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« Reply #110 on: February 09, 2014, 09:00:54 AM »

Solothurn just came in and it voted "Yes" on the mass-immigration initiative with 55-45.
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« Reply #111 on: February 09, 2014, 09:02:28 AM »

My updated prediction for Switzerland (now just Zürich and Bern missing):

51.3% Yes, ban mass-immigration
48.7% No
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« Reply #112 on: February 09, 2014, 09:15:55 AM »

Currently, a 38.000 vote lead for "Yes".

Zurich (only 1 city missing) will add a net 25-30.000 votes to "No".

Bern (2 districts missing) will add a net 20-40.000 votes to "Yes".

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« Reply #113 on: February 09, 2014, 10:45:06 AM »

The canton of Bern is now fully counted.

New Swiss-wide result:

51% Yes
49% No

"Yes" has a lead of 46.350 votes.

http://www.nzz.ch/aktuell/schweiz/svp-initiative-im-aargau-auf-ja-kurs-1.18239183

Only the canton of Zurich is missing, where the "No" leads by 28.000 votes right now.

Only the small city of Kloten (18.000 people) in Zurich is missing.

Which means the "Yes" has won with 50.3% Switzerland-wide.
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« Reply #114 on: February 09, 2014, 11:02:32 AM »

I find it quite interesting that the francophone Switzerland voted "NO" while the german speaking part voted mainly "YES"(excluding Bern and Basel). Is there any reason in particular for that?
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« Reply #115 on: February 09, 2014, 11:03:58 AM »

I find it quite interesting that the francophone Switzerland voted "NO" while the german speaking part voted mainly "YES"(excluding Bern and Basel). Is there any reason in particular for that?

German speaking Switzerland always votes more right-wing/conservative/fascist/etc.
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« Reply #116 on: February 09, 2014, 11:15:27 AM »

FINAL results:

Re-introduction of immigration quotas



Private financing of abortions



Funding of railway infrastructure



Clickable English results map:

http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/swiss_news/Vote_results.html?cid=37851262
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« Reply #117 on: February 09, 2014, 11:59:20 AM »

Well how terribly depressing. But then again, it's Switzerland, so...
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« Reply #118 on: February 09, 2014, 04:37:22 PM »

     It seems that this is being spun as a victory for the far-right. Does that seem to be the impression on the ground in Switzerland?
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« Reply #119 on: February 09, 2014, 04:40:06 PM »

     It seems that this is being spun as a victory for the far-right. Does that seem to be the impression on the ground in Switzerland?

It is certainly a victory for the SVP but it's a victory which, among other factors at play, would not have been possible without crossover support from Green Party members and voters. The Green Party Ticino, for example, publicly supported the initiative, after all.
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« Reply #120 on: February 09, 2014, 04:40:54 PM »

   I'm wondering exactly what changes will actually come from the immigration initiative passing. What was current law, and how will things be now?
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« Reply #121 on: February 09, 2014, 04:45:59 PM »

I only just returned from the polling station. It was much more work than expected. We were initially told that our shift would be over by around 5PM but it took us until 10PM to finish all our work.

   I'm wondering exactly what changes will actually come from the immigration initiative passing. What was current law, and how will things be now?

In short, the current "free movement of persons" model should be replaced with a quota-based model. Proponents of the initiative have often cited the Canadian model as an example.
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« Reply #122 on: February 09, 2014, 04:56:15 PM »

    It seems that this is being spun as a victory for the far-right. Does that seem to be the impression on the ground in Switzerland?

It is certainly a victory for the SVP but it's a victory which, among other factors at play, would not have been possible without crossover support from Green Party members and voters. The Green Party Ticino, for example, publicly supported the initiative, after all.

     I was looking at the map and I saw Ticino was 68% in favor. Since they're such a small group by comparison I am less knowledgeable about them, so how do the Swiss Italians usually compare politically to the Swiss French and Swiss Germans?
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« Reply #123 on: February 09, 2014, 05:05:35 PM »

    It seems that this is being spun as a victory for the far-right. Does that seem to be the impression on the ground in Switzerland?

It is certainly a victory for the SVP but it's a victory which, among other factors at play, would not have been possible without crossover support from Green Party members and voters. The Green Party Ticino, for example, publicly supported the initiative, after all.

     I was looking at the map and I saw Ticino was 68% in favor. Since they're such a small group by comparison I am less knowledgeable about them, so how do the Swiss Italians usually compare politically to the Swiss French and Swiss Germans?

They are very sceptical of the European Union and tend to have certain populist tendencies, which sometimes benefits the right and sometimes the left.
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« Reply #124 on: February 10, 2014, 04:16:38 AM »

Results by districts:

Re-introduction of immigration quotas



Private financing of abortions



Only 2 districts want abortions not to be covered by the mandatory health insurance.
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