1984 United States Presidential Election

[Supersonic]

I'm predicting Bayh: 25, Kemp: 15, Bergland: 3, LaRouche: 4, Johnson: 2.

Because... everyone cares what I think.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Bayh.

We need all hands on deck IMO. Kemp/Goldwater are hardly moderates, and conservatives will love the ticket.

Heaven forbid that a conservative wins an election for once!

You guys had your happy time in from 1876-1884 and 1956-1964. Now it's hegemony time!

[OAM]

That sounds like the most boring children's cartoon ever.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

That sounds like the most boring children's cartoon ever.

Hegemony Time with Church 'n' Birch? It was a hit in the 80s.

[JerryArkansas]

Kemp

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

I'm predicting Bayh: 25, Kemp: 15, Bergland: 3, LaRouche: 4, Johnson: 2.

Because... everyone cares what I think.

Every time, I think "this is the one the Republicans will win!" and then my fears are assuaged. You have a good shot at 1992 and 2000, though, what with Perot and Nader (and apparently Herman Cain ran in 2000, so you can have him!).

[Supersonic]

I'm predicting Bayh: 25, Kemp: 15, Bergland: 3, LaRouche: 4, Johnson: 2.

Because... everyone cares what I think.

Every time, I think "this is the one the Republicans will win!" and then my fears are assuaged. You have a good shot at 1992 and 2000, though, what with Perot and Nader (and apparently Herman Cain ran in 2000, so you can have him!).

Cain is the only one who can put the UNITED back in the United States of America after all.

[morgieb]

Yes, 999 is the way forward for America.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

I'm predicting Bayh: 25, Kemp: 15, Bergland: 3, LaRouche: 4, Johnson: 2.

Because... everyone cares what I think.

Every time, I think "this is the one the Republicans will win!" and then my fears are assuaged. You have a good shot at 1992 and 2000, though, what with Perot and Nader (and apparently Herman Cain ran in 2000, so you can have him!).

Cain is the only one who can put the UNITED back in the United States of America after all.

What should we do, though, have him run in 2000 and then again in 2016 or should we repeal the term-limits amendment and let him serve four terms?

[Oldiesfreak1854]

Kemp, of course.

[Goldwater]

Bayh.

We need all hands on deck IMO. Kemp/Goldwater are hardly moderates, and conservatives will love the ticket.

Heaven forbid that a conservative wins an election for once!

You guys had your happy time in from 1876-1884 and 1956-1964. Now it's hegemony time!

What? The only conservative in the white house at that time was Smith's vice president.

[Supersonic]

I'm predicting Bayh: 25, Kemp: 15, Bergland: 3, LaRouche: 4, Johnson: 2.

Because... everyone cares what I think.

Every time, I think "this is the one the Republicans will win!" and then my fears are assuaged. You have a good shot at 1992 and 2000, though, what with Perot and Nader (and apparently Herman Cain ran in 2000, so you can have him!).

Cain is the only one who can put the UNITED back in the United States of America after all.

What should we do, though, have him run in 2000 and then again in 2016 or should we repeal the term-limits amendment and let him serve four terms?

President... for life... ;o

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

I'm predicting Bayh: 25, Kemp: 15, Bergland: 3, LaRouche: 4, Johnson: 2.

Because... everyone cares what I think.

Every time, I think "this is the one the Republicans will win!" and then my fears are assuaged. You have a good shot at 1992 and 2000, though, what with Perot and Nader (and apparently Herman Cain ran in 2000, so you can have him!).

Cain is the only one who can put the UNITED back in the United States of America after all.

What should we do, though, have him run in 2000 and then again in 2016 or should we repeal the term-limits amendment and let him serve four terms?

President... for life... ;o

Yes!

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

I don't know if Cain qualified for the primary ballot in 2000

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

I don't know if Cain qualified for the primary ballot in 2000

We can have him in 2012.

[Antonio the Sixth]

I missed the vote because I had too much homework to do!

So Bayh should have 32 votes.

[Lumine]

6.2% for Lyndon LaRouche? Oh, god... I can't wait to see how David Duke performs in the next two elections...

[Antonio the Sixth]

Now that I think about that, it would be AWESOME to have President Lyndon LaRouche in this TL.

[Maxwell]

Bayh only wins by 8? Ugh.

Well, let's re-nominate Kemp and let's see if anything better happens.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Hm. Much closer than I'd've expected. Still, a win's a win.

[Supersonic]

So, my prediction was a bit wrong.

[TNF]

Too close for comfort, but good on the forum for re-electing Birch Bayh.

[Enderman]

Kemp would be nice, though Reagan was my original preference. EV maps anyone?

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

The 1984 Democratic Primaries
Despite a loss in the Iowa Caucuses to Senator Walter Mondale, with wins in New Hampshire, Vermont, and Wyoming, it looked like the Bayh campaign was well on its way towards an easy nomination. However, beginning on the day of the March 13th primaries, wherein Jesse Jackson scored wins in the South thanks to high African-American turnout, Jackson soon began taking very crucial and delegate-rich states, his campaign reaching its peak with victories in the Illinois and New York primaries. However, on April 7th, the campaign experienced a dramatic change with the death of President Church and the Vice President's subsequent swearing-in. After that, Bayh proceeded to clear a path towards victory and made dramatic wins. However, come the end of the primaries, he found himself just shy of a majority, even with Glenn's delegates. Therefore, the race would proceed to the Democratic National Convention.

Red - President Evan Bayh of Indiana
Blue - Reverend Jesse L. Jackson of Illinois
Green - Senator Walter Mondale of Minnesota
Yellow - Senator John Glenn of Ohio

1984 Republican Primaries
The race quickly boiled down between two leaders of the conservative movement. Ronald Reagan, the aging Senator and former California Governor, was aiming one last time for the presidency. Kemp, meanwhile, represented not the South and West of the older movement, but of more urban areas, the Mid-West, and North-East. There were also significant class differences between support: While Kemp was winning Republican minorities and the middle-upper class and suburban residents, Reagan was winning farmers and more blue collar workers, though not enough as it would turn out.

As the primaries wore on, Kemp gathered a strong urban and Northern coalition to win a large plurality of delegates. With some worried about a convention battle, Reagan dropped out and threw all his support behind Kemp, something that he'd already received from Baker.

Blue - Congressman Jack F. Kemp of New York
Red - Senator Ronald W. Reagan of California
Green - Senate Minority Leader Howard H. Baker, Jr. of Tennessee

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

The 1984 United States Presidential Election
Following the death of President Church and an incredibly energetic DNC--despite lingering bitterness between the Jackson and Bayh campgs--it seemed as if the Democrats were destined to win. Nevertheless, Jack Kemp's charismatic campaign was able to woo a certain amount of undecideds, and that plus a good debate performance made him a contender. However, at the end of the day, Bayh was able to bring together residual pieces of the McGovern/Church coalition for yet another Democratic victory.

President Birch Bayh (Democrat-Indiana)/Governor Mario Cuomo (Democrat-New York) 378 electoral votes, 47.7% of the popular vote
Congressman Jack F. Kemp (Republican-New York)/Congressman Barry Goldwater, Jr. (Republican-California) 160 electoral votes, 40% of the popular vote
Mr. Lyndon LaRouche (Independent-Virginia)/Mr. Billy Davis (Independent-Mississippi) 0 electoral votes, 6.2% of the popular vote
Party Chairman David Bergland (Libertarian-California)/Dr. Mary Ruwart (Libertarian-Texas) 0 electoral votes, 3.1% of the popular vote
Ms. Sonia Johnson (Citizens-Idaho)/Mr. Richard Walton (Citizens-Rhode Island) 0 electoral votes, 3.1% of the popular vote