Is masturbation immoral?

[Akno21]

I'm sorry, but hardcore leftist girls aren't that hot. A lot of them are kind of weird and stuff.. feminists are bad news.

Crazy Republican girls are the best... particularly when they make out with each other. Somehow that happened in my apt. a couple weeks ago, have to figure out a way to repeat.

Republican girls are hot.. just come to my school.. all the ugly girls are dems and the very hot girls are reps..

Talk about over-generalization...

[dazzleman]

the biggest problem isn't coworkers, it's just thinking. I have to try really hard to keep my mind off sex at work.

The women where I work are very unattractive.  YDA fundraisers and Meetups have some very attractive women plus the added bonus they're liberal Democrats.  Ironically, I don't get that way at Clubs and bars.  I guess women are more attractive when they can actually talk and say something intelligent instead of screaming to their friends.  This is part of the reason I'd much rather sleep with Flavia Colgan than Jessica Simpson.

Well, you can talk to the women at the fundraisers, plus you know you have something in common with them.  I hate clubs because you can't even talk to anybody there.

I think you should do Ann Coulter, though.  Why limit yourself to liberal Democrats?

Because she probably has a penis.

I also don't want a political crossfire in a relationship.  During one of the few times I was actually forced to go to Mass becasue I just wanted to avoid an argument, there was actually a very attractive girl speaking at the end of (Catholic) Mass for about 25 minutes regarding (you'll love this KPhil) Generation Life.  She was about 2-3 years younger than me and a gorgeous brunette from LaSalle University.  Needless to say I though she was a priss, amde sarcastic remarks in my head the whoel time and didn't agree with a word she said.

You should open your mind a little bit...

[12th Doctor]

In theory, yes it is.

howso when it does not harm anyone?

I am marginally sympathetic to the argument that it is hurtful to some extent because, well, let's say that you are jerking-off thinking of someone that you know.  When you see that person next, does that not change the way you think of them or veiw them.  I can see where if might be hurtful to some relationships.  If you are looking at, say, hard-core porno, then you could make the argument that it is the endorsment of the porno that is sinful.  

I don;t really buy the argument whole-heartedly, but I can see where someone might think that.  I certainly do do it, but it is not something I am really proud of.  It is more like simply serving a raw human desire that, if I were a better person, I would be able to control.

[Frodo]

I'm sorry, but hardcore leftist girls aren't that hot. A lot of them are kind of weird and stuff.. feminists are bad news.

Crazy Republican girls are the best... particularly when they make out with each other. Somehow that happened in my apt. a couple weeks ago, have to figure out a way to repeat.

I agree with you.  Left-wing women usually harbor resentment toward men that will come out in one way or another.  Their whole philosophy is based on the notion that men have abused and oppressed them for centuries - deep down, how could they really like us?

have you ever had a personal experience that left you with that impression, or are you simply playing by old, tired stereotypes?  because that has most certainly not been my experience. 

[TeePee4Prez]

I'm sorry, but hardcore leftist girls aren't that hot. A lot of them are kind of weird and stuff.. feminists are bad news.

Crazy Republican girls are the best... particularly when they make out with each other. Somehow that happened in my apt. a couple weeks ago, have to figure out a way to repeat.

I agree with you.  Left-wing women usually harbor resentment toward men that will come out in one way or another.  Their whole philosophy is based on the notion that men have abused and oppressed them for centuries - deep down, how could they really like us?

Conservative women, in my experience, generally have much healthier relationships with men because their conservatism is free of doctrinaire resentment toward men.  That is my opinion anyway.

IHMO, I like left-centrist pro-choice women that aren't man haters.  The notion that liberal women are ugly, man haters is nonsense.  I find most of these women at YDA events are career-oriented, professional, well dressed, pro-choice and attractive.  These are mostly DLC types.  I do find some in the Bryn Mawr/Swarthmore class that don't shave or wash their hair unattractive, but they are few and far between.

[Josh/Devilman88]

So what the hell do you do? Go up to every hot girl you see and ask about her politics?

No.. I hang out with most of the hot girls and durning the election we talked about politics and that is how I found out..

[12th Doctor]

the biggest problem isn't coworkers, it's just thinking. I have to try really hard to keep my mind off sex at work.

The women where I work are very unattractive.  YDA fundraisers and Meetups have some very attractive women plus the added bonus they're liberal Democrats.  Ironically, I don't get that way at Clubs and bars.  I guess women are more attractive when they can actually talk and say something intelligent instead of screaming to their friends.  This is part of the reason I'd much rather sleep with Flavia Colgan than Jessica Simpson.

Well, you can talk to the women at the fundraisers, plus you know you have something in common with them.  I hate clubs because you can't even talk to anybody there.

I think you should do Ann Coulter, though.  Why limit yourself to liberal Democrats?

Because she probably has a penis.

Is that the way you view all strong willed women?  And you have the guts to call conservatives sexist?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

the biggest problem isn't coworkers, it's just thinking. I have to try really hard to keep my mind off sex at work.

The women where I work are very unattractive.  YDA fundraisers and Meetups have some very attractive women plus the added bonus they're liberal Democrats.  Ironically, I don't get that way at Clubs and bars.  I guess women are more attractive when they can actually talk and say something intelligent instead of screaming to their friends.  This is part of the reason I'd much rather sleep with Flavia Colgan than Jessica Simpson.

Well, you can talk to the women at the fundraisers, plus you know you have something in common with them.  I hate clubs because you can't even talk to anybody there.

I think you should do Ann Coulter, though.  Why limit yourself to liberal Democrats?

Because she probably has a penis.

Is that the way you view all strong willed women?  And you have the guts to call conservatives sexist?

no, it's because she looks like a man

[A18]

This thread is priceless.

[dazzleman]

I'm sorry, but hardcore leftist girls aren't that hot. A lot of them are kind of weird and stuff.. feminists are bad news.

Crazy Republican girls are the best... particularly when they make out with each other. Somehow that happened in my apt. a couple weeks ago, have to figure out a way to repeat.

I agree with you.  Left-wing women usually harbor resentment toward men that will come out in one way or another.  Their whole philosophy is based on the notion that men have abused and oppressed them for centuries - deep down, how could they really like us?

have you ever had a personal experience that left you with that impression, or are you simply playing by old, tired stereotypes? 

No, I speak from experience.  Of course, this is a generalization, but left-wing women seem to take everything that involves a man as a challenge.  They are so convinced that if they give a man his way on anything, they are extending the terrible oppression of their foremothers...it's really a very sad philosophy.

Personally, I never saw oppression of women in my family, and my mother, grandmother, etc. were not exactly feminists, to put it mildly.  Their view was that the role of women was different than men, and they didn't try to be men, but they sure as hell didn't think of themselves as inferior, and if anything, they had more power around the house than the men did.  And these were conservative, anti-feminist women.  So I find this whole "thousand years of patriarchy" garbage that is spewed out by the feminists a little hard to swallow.

[12th Doctor]

the biggest problem isn't coworkers, it's just thinking. I have to try really hard to keep my mind off sex at work.

The women where I work are very unattractive.  YDA fundraisers and Meetups have some very attractive women plus the added bonus they're liberal Democrats.  Ironically, I don't get that way at Clubs and bars.  I guess women are more attractive when they can actually talk and say something intelligent instead of screaming to their friends.  This is part of the reason I'd much rather sleep with Flavia Colgan than Jessica Simpson.

Well, you can talk to the women at the fundraisers, plus you know you have something in common with them.  I hate clubs because you can't even talk to anybody there.

I think you should do Ann Coulter, though.  Why limit yourself to liberal Democrats?

Because she probably has a penis.

I also don't want a political crossfire in a relationship.  During one of the few times I was actually forced to go to Mass becasue I just wanted to avoid an argument, there was actually a very attractive girl speaking at the end of (Catholic) Mass for about 25 minutes regarding (you'll love this KPhil) Generation Life.  She was about 2-3 years younger than me and a gorgeous brunette from LaSalle University.  Needless to say I though she was a priss, amde sarcastic remarks in my head the whoel time and didn't agree with a word she said.

All this proves is lack of certainty in your own views.

I dare say even insecurity.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Considering you can't be a Communist female without being a feminist, it's pretty clear I want a piece of ass from hot armed and militant left wing feminists.

[TeePee4Prez]

the biggest problem isn't coworkers, it's just thinking. I have to try really hard to keep my mind off sex at work.

The women where I work are very unattractive.  YDA fundraisers and Meetups have some very attractive women plus the added bonus they're liberal Democrats.  Ironically, I don't get that way at Clubs and bars.  I guess women are more attractive when they can actually talk and say something intelligent instead of screaming to their friends.  This is part of the reason I'd much rather sleep with Flavia Colgan than Jessica Simpson.

Well, you can talk to the women at the fundraisers, plus you know you have something in common with them.  I hate clubs because you can't even talk to anybody there.

I think you should do Ann Coulter, though.  Why limit yourself to liberal Democrats?

Because she probably has a penis.

I also don't want a political crossfire in a relationship.  During one of the few times I was actually forced to go to Mass becasue I just wanted to avoid an argument, there was actually a very attractive girl speaking at the end of (Catholic) Mass for about 25 minutes regarding (you'll love this KPhil) Generation Life.  She was about 2-3 years younger than me and a gorgeous brunette from LaSalle University.  Needless to say I though she was a priss, amde sarcastic remarks in my head the whoel time and didn't agree with a word she said.

All this proves is lack of certainty in your own views.

Lack of certainty?  Ok, you got me.  I'll admit this and I won't too often, but my parents are a pain in the ass about me living at home and not goign to Mass.  I would move out in a heartbeat, but my salary won't cover for me to live anywhere halfway decent with my student loans.

[dazzleman]

Considering you can't be a Communist female without being a feminist, it's pretty clear I want a piece of ass from hot armed and militant left wing feminists.

Wake up.  Women were more exploited under communism than they ever were in this country.  You really don't have much of a grip on the realities of communism.

It sounds like you really just want a dominatrix, regardless of politics.  You should watch "A View to a Kill" the James Bond movie made in 1985 that featured Grace Jones as a dominatrix that James Bonds has sex with.  That's the type of thing you need.  Maybe you should get some "equipment" and invite one of these women over to your bachelor pad...

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Considering you can't be a Communist female without being a feminist, it's pretty clear I want a piece of ass from hot armed and militant left wing feminists.

Wake up.  Women were more exploited under communism than they ever were in this country.  You really don't have much of a grip on the realities of communism.

It sounds like you really just want a dominatrix, regardless of politics.  You should watch "A View to a Kill" the James Bond movie made in 1985 that featured Grace Jones as a dominatrix that James Bonds has sex with.  That's the type of thing you need.  Maybe you should get some "equipment" and invite one of these women over to your bachelor pad...

Actually one of the main reasons the Communists in Nepal have so much support from the female population is they are opposed to many fuedal misogynist traditions. I really doubt the rebels in South America and the Phillipines are a big fan of such things either or anti-equality.

Might I add that in Poland under the communist regime women had free and completely access to abortion and birth control. That is no longer the case.

[dazzleman]

Considering you can't be a Communist female without being a feminist, it's pretty clear I want a piece of ass from hot armed and militant left wing feminists.

Wake up.  Women were more exploited under communism than they ever were in this country.  You really don't have much of a grip on the realities of communism.

It sounds like you really just want a dominatrix, regardless of politics.  You should watch "A View to a Kill" the James Bond movie made in 1985 that featured Grace Jones as a dominatrix that James Bonds has sex with.  That's the type of thing you need.  Maybe you should get some "equipment" and invite one of these women over to your bachelor pad...

Actually one of the main reasons the Communists in Nepal have so much support from the female population is they are opposed to many fuedal misogynist traditions. I really doubt the rebels in South America and the Phillipines are a big fan of such things either or anti-equality.

Might I add that in Poland under the communist regime women had free and completely access to abortion and birth control. That is no longer the case.

In Romania, they weren't allowed abortion at all.  Communism has nothing to do with feminism.  Equality for women is part of the communist doctrine, but like most aspects of the communist doctrine, it is a lie.

In any case, I don't equate availability of abortion with equality for women.  You have been brainwashed by the feminazis if that's how you define equality.

[12th Doctor]

the biggest problem isn't coworkers, it's just thinking. I have to try really hard to keep my mind off sex at work.

The women where I work are very unattractive.  YDA fundraisers and Meetups have some very attractive women plus the added bonus they're liberal Democrats.  Ironically, I don't get that way at Clubs and bars.  I guess women are more attractive when they can actually talk and say something intelligent instead of screaming to their friends.  This is part of the reason I'd much rather sleep with Flavia Colgan than Jessica Simpson.

Well, you can talk to the women at the fundraisers, plus you know you have something in common with them.  I hate clubs because you can't even talk to anybody there.

I think you should do Ann Coulter, though.  Why limit yourself to liberal Democrats?

Because she probably has a penis.

I also don't want a political crossfire in a relationship.  During one of the few times I was actually forced to go to Mass becasue I just wanted to avoid an argument, there was actually a very attractive girl speaking at the end of (Catholic) Mass for about 25 minutes regarding (you'll love this KPhil) Generation Life.  She was about 2-3 years younger than me and a gorgeous brunette from LaSalle University.  Needless to say I though she was a priss, amde sarcastic remarks in my head the whoel time and didn't agree with a word she said.

All this proves is lack of certainty in your own views.

Lack of certainty?  Ok, you got me.  I'll admit this and I won't too often, but my parents are a pain in the ass about me living at home and not goign to Mass.  I would move out in a heartbeat, but my salary won't cover for me to live anywhere halfway decent with my student loans.

Note: I changed it to "insecurity"

The instinct to view others in a negative light just because they hold veiws different from yours is usually a sign of arrogance which always stems from insecurity in one's self.  True, I could never date a very liberal girl, just like I could never date a very conservative girl... as our world views would be totally different.  I could date a liberal girl, though.

Hell, I went to a Union Hall, on a night before I had a test, to see Dick Gephardt just so that I could be around a girl I was interested in who worked for the Kerry campaign.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Considering you can't be a Communist female without being a feminist, it's pretty clear I want a piece of ass from hot armed and militant left wing feminists.

Wake up.  Women were more exploited under communism than they ever were in this country.  You really don't have much of a grip on the realities of communism.

It sounds like you really just want a dominatrix, regardless of politics.  You should watch "A View to a Kill" the James Bond movie made in 1985 that featured Grace Jones as a dominatrix that James Bonds has sex with.  That's the type of thing you need.  Maybe you should get some "equipment" and invite one of these women over to your bachelor pad...

Actually one of the main reasons the Communists in Nepal have so much support from the female population is they are opposed to many fuedal misogynist traditions. I really doubt the rebels in South America and the Phillipines are a big fan of such things either or anti-equality.

Might I add that in Poland under the communist regime women had free and completely access to abortion and birth control. That is no longer the case.

In Romania, they weren't allowed abortion at all.  Communism has nothing to do with feminism.  Equality for women is part of the communist doctrine, but like most aspects of the communist doctrine, it is a lie.

In any case, I don't equate availability of abortion with equality for women.  You have been brainwashed by the feminazis if that's how you define equality.

Ceausescu was never supported by the American Left, he is hated on DU. You won't find a single communist feminist who defends him.

note this: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=16218.0

[12th Doctor]

Considering you can't be a Communist female without being a feminist, it's pretty clear I want a piece of ass from hot armed and militant left wing feminists.

Wake up.  Women were more exploited under communism than they ever were in this country.  You really don't have much of a grip on the realities of communism.

It sounds like you really just want a dominatrix, regardless of politics.  You should watch "A View to a Kill" the James Bond movie made in 1985 that featured Grace Jones as a dominatrix that James Bonds has sex with.  That's the type of thing you need.  Maybe you should get some "equipment" and invite one of these women over to your bachelor pad...

Actually one of the main reasons the Communists in Nepal have so much support from the female population is they are opposed to many fuedal misogynist traditions. I really doubt the rebels in South America and the Phillipines are a big fan of such things either or anti-equality.

Might I add that in Poland under the communist regime women had free and completely access to abortion and birth control. That is no longer the case.

In Romania, they weren't allowed abortion at all.  Communism has nothing to do with feminism.  Equality for women is part of the communist doctrine, but like most aspects of the communist doctrine, it is a lie.

In any case, I don't equate availability of abortion with equality for women.  You have been brainwashed by the feminazis if that's how you define equality.

He also makes the obvious mistake of assuming that abortion and women's right have anything in common.

[Alcon]

It's amazing that this topic led to Communism, somehow.

[TeePee4Prez]

the biggest problem isn't coworkers, it's just thinking. I have to try really hard to keep my mind off sex at work.

The women where I work are very unattractive.  YDA fundraisers and Meetups have some very attractive women plus the added bonus they're liberal Democrats.  Ironically, I don't get that way at Clubs and bars.  I guess women are more attractive when they can actually talk and say something intelligent instead of screaming to their friends.  This is part of the reason I'd much rather sleep with Flavia Colgan than Jessica Simpson.

Well, you can talk to the women at the fundraisers, plus you know you have something in common with them.  I hate clubs because you can't even talk to anybody there.

I think you should do Ann Coulter, though.  Why limit yourself to liberal Democrats?

Because she probably has a penis.

I also don't want a political crossfire in a relationship.  During one of the few times I was actually forced to go to Mass becasue I just wanted to avoid an argument, there was actually a very attractive girl speaking at the end of (Catholic) Mass for about 25 minutes regarding (you'll love this KPhil) Generation Life.  She was about 2-3 years younger than me and a gorgeous brunette from LaSalle University.  Needless to say I though she was a priss, amde sarcastic remarks in my head the whoel time and didn't agree with a word she said.

All this proves is lack of certainty in your own views.

Lack of certainty?  Ok, you got me.  I'll admit this and I won't too often, but my parents are a pain in the ass about me living at home and not goign to Mass.  I would move out in a heartbeat, but my salary won't cover for me to live anywhere halfway decent with my student loans.

Note: I changed it to "insecurity"

The instinct to view others in a negative light just because they hold veiws different from yours is usually a sign of arrogance which always stems from insecurity in one's self.  True, I could never date a very liberal girl, just like I could never date a very conservative girl... as our world views would be totally different.  I could date a liberal girl, though.

Hell, I went to a Union Hall, on a night before I had a test, to see Dick Gephardt just so that I could be around a girl I was interested in who worked for the Kerry campaign.

I could go for a moderate SE Penn/New Jersey/New York Republican very easily.  The difference is this girl was such a priss and so hands off sexually I don't think anything could have happened between us.

[A18]

Not really. Every topic even remotely related to sex always ends up about communism.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

And of course the USSR and their puppet Communist regime in Afghanistan were opposed by feminism's worst nightmare, the Taliban. The US definately took the wrong side there, at least women would be treated fairly under the Soviet puppet regime.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

When I have time later I'll look up those DU posts by IndianaGreen about how Lenin was one of the greatest feminists in history and the wonders he did for women's rights.

[TeePee4Prez]

And of course the USSR and their puppet Communist regime in Afghanistan were opposed by feminism's worst nightmare, the Taliban. The US definately took the wrong side there, at least women would be treated fairly under the Soviet puppet regime.

I'm gonna have to take your side there BRTD.  We should have let the Soviets take Afghanistan now that I think of it.  Osama's extreme rightism would have had no place to flourish.  Reagan created a lot of blunders conservatives and foreign policy hawks, such as John Ford, will not admit to.