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JRP1994
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« on: May 06, 2013, 08:45:10 AM »

Vladimir Putin runs for President against, say, George Bush in 2004 (overlooking Constitutional eligibility, and the fact that most Americans would not vote for a foreigner).

Basing your analysis ONLY on Putin's policies and accomplishments as President of Russia, in comparison with Bush's record as President of the USA, who would win? How well (or poorly) would Putin perform in the popular vote and electoral college? Discuss with maps.
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« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2013, 02:09:47 PM »

Bush would be the liberal in this situation. Tongue
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« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2013, 07:26:37 PM »

Both were very popular in 2004, and had some policies in common. Putin would probably win strong Dem areas for simply not being Bush, not having started two wars and being perceived as a reformer of a corrupt political system (at the time Tongue). Republicans would mostly vote for Bush, but Putin would fare better in some strongholds because he would split the "oil vote" (he transformed Russia into an oil superpower). He would also be seen as strong, and not the "Massachusetts liberal" John Kerry was made out to be.

It's kind of a contest between two types of Republicans: Bush, the patriotic, down-to-earth, wartime incumbent President; and Putin, the ambitious, progressive conservative, if somewhat "elitist" reformer. Let's say Putin picks a conservative Democrat as his running mate so he attracts some of both major party bases. I'm going to go with an extremely close race resulting in an EC tie (mostly because i can't decide who actually wins Tongue):



George W. Bush/Dick Cheney: 269
Vladimir Putin/Ben Nelson: 269

Since both houses were controlled by Republicans, Bush would be voted in as President by the House and Cheney by the Senate.
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« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2013, 07:28:44 PM »

I would hope Bush wins a 50 state sweep.

Shame on those who vote Vladimir Putin.
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« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2013, 07:18:34 AM »

LOL at Ben Nelson as Putins running mate.
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« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2013, 04:42:48 AM »

I would hope Bush wins a 50 state sweep.

Shame on those who vote Vladimir Putin.
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« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2013, 08:43:18 AM »

I would hope Bush wins a 50 state sweep.

Shame on those who vote Vladimir Putin.
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« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2013, 09:50:18 PM »

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« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2013, 02:25:08 AM »

Bush caused far more suffering than Putin, and same would be true if he was given tools that are available to US president. Also Putin would be a blue dog democrat, a snowstalkeresque figure.
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« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2013, 02:22:52 PM »

Well, obviously, I'd vote for Bush (be it the Elder or the Younger). Of course they'd be certain misguided idiots on my side of the aisle who'd back Putin even if he'd started exterminating the gays.
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« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2013, 10:32:58 AM »

Without hindsight probably Putin
With hindsight Bush
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