Florida Megathread

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Murphy will probably survive. He raises more than 500k which is impressive. I appreciate him, I hope he will become a US senator in the future, or a governor!

Rick Scott is moderating his views, with his money, I suppose he will be reelected.

For Southerland, is he an extremist? His opponent seems to be relatively moderate, an "independant voice" in her campagne on internet. Is his father really popular in Florida?

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Well, the Flo democrats seem to become better with their recruits .

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Well, the Flo democrats seem to become better with their recruits .

I don't see how you could infer that from any recent events.

A solid recruiting job in Pasco (Murphy) and in St. Pete (Kriseman), and assuming good recruits in Pinellas (hopefully Justice, probably Sink) and for gov (Crist).

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'Very good for Democrats, if true:

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I don't know if this poll is skewed or not, but Murphy is a strong candidate. It would surprise me if he doesn't become a senator or a governor one day.

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Is Bondi popular?

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http://www.orlandosentinel.com/features/blogs/gone-viral/os-florida-governor-mansion-repairs-10292013,0,7628389.post

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Few Democrats on this forum actually like Crist. We just seem him as the lesser of two evils.

Well Florida Democrats sure seem to like him. Continues to amaze me - I understand the importance of electability, but it just seems like you're throwing out all your beliefs and values if you are going to get behind someone as spineless and opportunistic as Charlie Crist. And don't even try to compare him to Mitt Romney - not even close.

If Scott is SO bad, I don't see why another competent Democrat couldn't beat him if they have proper funding and are able to develop name recognition. Sink should have gone for it again.

Scott si one of the most corrupt governor and must be defeated. And Charlie crist is underrated.

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I'm not enthusiastic of Crist, but Scott MUST be defeated.

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Being a charismatic idiot got Reagan two landslide victories.

But fortunately, Scott doesn't strike me as being charismatic! He's just an another tea partier who has destroyed Florida and tries to be seen as a moderate with his "teacher pay raise", even if he signed major budget cuts in education fews years ago...

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Being a charismatic idiot got Reagan two landslide victories.

But fortunately, Scott doesn't strike me as being charismatic! He's just an another tea partier who has destroyed Florida and tries to be seen as a moderate with his "teacher pay raise", even if he signed major budget cuts in education fews years ago...

You don't even live here. I do. Scott has hardly destroyed this state. Hell, from what I've seen, people are building once again. My Uncle is tearing down houses once again, and is getting more trucking runs (his other job) than before. My dad is getting more tenants (he rents storage space and parking to truckers). My other uncle has two jobs, but they were two jobs that didn’t exist three years ago. The sun is shining in this state, literally, and metaphorically.

I'm not sure he's the man who has improved Florida, he's more a lucky man.

But he stays a ing bastard: just for 2012 he should be in jail.

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Being a charismatic idiot got Reagan two landslide victories.

But fortunately, Scott doesn't strike me as being charismatic! He's just an another tea partier who has destroyed Florida and tries to be seen as a moderate with his "teacher pay raise", even if he signed major budget cuts in education fews years ago...

You don't even live here. I do. Scott has hardly destroyed this state. Hell, from what I've seen, people are building once again. My Uncle is tearing down houses once again, and is getting more trucking runs (his other job) than before. My dad is getting more tenants (he rents storage space and parking to truckers). My other uncle has two jobs, but they were two jobs that didn’t exist three years ago. The sun is shining in this state, literally, and metaphorically.

I'm not sure he's the man who has improved Florida, he's more a lucky man.

But he stays a ing bastard: just for 2012 he should be in jail.

And what did he do in 2012 that was illegal?

Please, you know exactly what I mean.

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quote from citizensforethics.

Well, I can understand if you still support him, even if he's a b$stard, because you dislike Crist and for an another reason, but at least recognize that he's a corrupt b*stard!

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I would call him a corrupt bastard if enough evidence existed for him to at least be investigated by the state, which to my knowledge, he hasn't.

Oh please, this is obvious, even more obvious than Aaron Schock being gay. Why would he have curtailed early voting?
Once again, I won't do my moralist "blablabla, you should be ashamed of yourself for supporting him blabla". I can understand that you prefer to vote for a corrupt bastard than for someone who strongly despises. But please, recognize he's a corrupt bastard, just for intellectual honesty.

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I would call him a corrupt bastard if enough evidence existed for him to at least be investigated by the state, which to my knowledge, he hasn't.

Oh please, this is obvious, even more obvious than Aaron Schock being gay. Why would he have curtailed early voting?
Once again, I won't do my moralist "blablabla, you should be ashamed of yourself for supporting him blabla". I can understand that you prefer to vote for a corrupt bastard than for someone who strongly despises. But please, recognize he's a corrupt bastard, just for intellectual honesty.

You talk about intellectual honesty yet to offer no proof other than your opinion, which you believe is true because he is a "corrupt bastard."

Because he has curtailed early voting, why wouldn't have he done that, if not for targeting minority voters? Why? Answer.

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I would call him a corrupt bastard if enough evidence existed for him to at least be investigated by the state, which to my knowledge, he hasn't.

Oh please, this is obvious, even more obvious than Aaron Schock being gay. Why would he have curtailed early voting?
Once again, I won't do my moralist "blablabla, you should be ashamed of yourself for supporting him blabla". I can understand that you prefer to vote for a corrupt bastard than for someone who strongly despises. But please, recognize he's a corrupt bastard, just for intellectual honesty.

You talk about intellectual honesty yet to offer no proof other than your opinion, which you believe is true because he is a "corrupt bastard."

Because he has curtailed early voting, why wouldn't have he done that, if not for targeting minority voters? Why? Answer.

Not him, but it's an easy question. Early voting doesn't raise turnout anyways, so cutting a few days out of it saves a few million dollars without harm and Scott is a big fan of making those weird little cuts that save chump change.

You all know that Rick Scott wanted to curtail early voting just for helping, that is obvious.

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Not a good time for him.

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Even with all the money he has, he still has no brain haha. I will miss him. Who will I deeply hate if he loses?

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Rubio: will Crist run on 8% unemployment, deficits and a collapsing economy?

Who?

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I don t think that will change a lot of things...

I m still believing Scott can win.

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I don t think that will change a lot of things...

I m still believing Scott can win.

Why are you always so pessimistic?

Well, short answer, I think I tend to overestimate incumbency .

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I don t think that will change a lot of things...

I m still believing Scott can win.

It's a stunning display of pettiness on the part of a sitting governor. Scott then followed that with a fairly poor debate, including implicitly admitting the reality of global warming, while Crist got questions about the environment - an area where his record is undoubtably superior. It's enough to shift a percentage point or two, which is all that matters.

I hope you're right seriously Sjoyce. Really. Scott is one of the worst governors.

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I hope this is over but I have the feeling this is not the case

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I'm pessimistic

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Right now, with a million votes in, the R-to-D margin is 63,000 votes closer than it was in 2010 - the change in partisan early/absentee margins is equivalent to Scott's entire margin of victory.

Good news?

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Democrats continue to chip away at Republican early vote/absentee ballot edge, lead now down to 6.7%: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/nakedpolitics/2014/10/2m-ballots-cast-in-fl-gop-lead-over-dems-still-strong-but-still-slipping-slightly.html

What was the lead 4 years ago?