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« on: May 09, 2013, 05:49:09 PM »

From the AV Club:

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« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2013, 05:54:49 PM »

I think John McCain may just have some weird bone to pick with cable companies. Wasn't he one of only a handful of senators to vote against telecom deregulation in the '90s when like 90+ members were voting 'aye' on it?
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« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2013, 06:01:55 PM »

All of the things included in this proposal seem like shockingly good ideas, which means there's not a chance in hell this gets anywhere.
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« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2013, 06:15:34 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2013, 06:26:24 PM »

Well done, Senator.
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« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2013, 06:29:56 PM »

All of the things included in this proposal seem like shockingly good ideas, which means there's not a chance in hell this gets anywhere.
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« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2013, 07:01:39 PM »

All of the things included in this proposal seem like shockingly good ideas, which means there's not a chance in hell this gets anywhere.
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« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2013, 07:04:33 PM »
« Edited: May 09, 2013, 07:16:21 PM by Lief »

Er... this is a horrible idea and would destroy television, basically. Right now the sh[inks]tty channels are basically subsidizing the good, niche ones. Without bundling, those niche channels would quickly go out of business and consumer choice would plummet.

That or it would be prohibitively expensive, to the point that you end up paying about the same as you're paying for cable now but getting many fewer channels as a result. And it would basically be impossible for new channels to ever come into existence without bundling.

This is one of those policies that sounds great, but in reality it would be a huge failure.

edit: These are both good ideas though:

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« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2013, 07:27:04 PM »

I agree about removing the sports blackouts in taxpayer funded stadiums.
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« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2013, 07:43:35 PM »

Good. Cable companies will need to do this if they want to compete at all with YouTube's recent decision to allow paid a la carte channels.
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« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2013, 07:46:16 PM »

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« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2013, 08:05:30 PM »

Before you all jump on this bandwagon I have 3 words and 3 letters for you:

Trent Lott on B.E.T.

I never would have signed up for B.E.T. But I was glad I had it when Sen. Lott went on there.
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« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2013, 08:09:28 PM »

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« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2013, 08:41:52 PM »
« Edited: May 09, 2013, 08:45:19 PM by badgate »

This would not destroy television, this would destroy the status quo. I mean seriously, do you wanna get in the time machine and go back to when people said mandatory seat belts would destroy the auto industry?

Also, props to King for also reading the AV Club. I love their TV show reviews
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« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2013, 09:36:13 PM »

Lief is right. This is a bad idea. The sports blackout ban one is not though.
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« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2013, 10:08:52 PM »

McCain is mostly a HP, but I'll give him credit for siding with 80% of Americans on Citizens United.
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« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2013, 10:14:29 PM »

What this also means is that it really doesn't cost any more to deliver every channel to every customer rather than allowing people to pick and choose. So the typical cable consumer, at least, will find himself or herself paying about as much as she had before for a reduced quantity of programming.

Yeah, exactly. If you're someone who buys a few hundred channel cable package right for like $80 per month, but you only watch like three channels, you've already shown that just those three channels have a subjective value of $80 per month to you. No one is going to save any money under this scheme; you'll be paying the same amount but receiving many, many fewer channels for it.
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« Reply #17 on: May 09, 2013, 11:01:44 PM »

It's a stupid regulation bill (as most are) whereas the cable companies will just find a way to charge you the same or more for fewer channels.
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« Reply #18 on: May 10, 2013, 01:25:20 AM »

Er... this is a horrible idea and would destroy television, basically. Right now the sh[inks]tty channels are basically subsidizing the good, niche ones. Without bundling, those niche channels would quickly go out of business and consumer choice would plummet.

That or it would be prohibitively expensive, to the point that you end up paying about the same as you're paying for cable now but getting many fewer channels as a result. And it would basically be impossible for new channels to ever come into existence without bundling.

This is one of those policies that sounds great, but in reality it would be a huge failure.

edit: These are both good ideas though:

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Why should the industry be saved? Are there a lot of union jobs at stake? I'm pretty certain most of revenue/profits end up in capitalist hands in this industry.
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« Reply #19 on: May 10, 2013, 01:26:01 AM »

This is a dumb idea.  If people really wanted a la carte channel selection, cable companies would offer it.  The people that can handle paying for content they don't like, can continue paying for cable.  The people that hate it so much can cancel their subscription. Nobody is forcing you to get cable anyway.   

Plus, cable television is a going to change drastically in the next 10 years and this bill will be outdated.  Eventually, I think most people will only watch live TV for sports, a few major shows and news events. 
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« Reply #20 on: May 10, 2013, 01:35:17 PM »

It's a stupid regulation bill (as most are) whereas the cable companies will just find a way to charge you the same or more for fewer channels.

Good on ya McCain.
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« Reply #21 on: May 10, 2013, 07:10:04 PM »

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« Reply #22 on: May 10, 2013, 07:49:50 PM »

This is a pretty terrible bill, unless the dumbed down media found on the big networks is tailored for you. In which case, I offer my pity.

sh**t coated with gold still stinks. This bill sounds amazing but the effects would leave people upset. Unless you think cable companies would forfeit profits because of this bill....

the cable companies will just find a way to charge you the same or more for fewer channels.

Truth.

I agree about removing the sports blackouts in taxpayer funded stadiums.

Same.
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« Reply #23 on: May 10, 2013, 10:24:05 PM »


I like the idea.  I am concerned about negative consequences, so I would like to see a state try this first before implementing it nationally. 
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« Reply #24 on: May 11, 2013, 03:20:54 AM »
« Edited: May 11, 2013, 03:25:38 AM by Lief »

Er... this is a horrible idea and would destroy television, basically. Right now the sh[inks]tty channels are basically subsidizing the good, niche ones. Without bundling, those niche channels would quickly go out of business and consumer choice would plummet.

That or it would be prohibitively expensive, to the point that you end up paying about the same as you're paying for cable now but getting many fewer channels as a result. And it would basically be impossible for new channels to ever come into existence without bundling.

This is one of those policies that sounds great, but in reality it would be a huge failure.

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Why should the industry be saved? Are there a lot of union jobs at stake? I'm pretty certain most of revenue/profits end up in capitalist hands in this industry.

Uh... yeah most people who work on TV shows are unionized. AFTRA, Writers Guild of America, IATSE, Teamsters, etc.
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