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Question: Choose who you would vote for if these were the candidates.
#1
Hillary Clinton D former secretary of state
#2
Joe Biden D Vice President
#3
Andrew Cuomo D Governor of NY
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Kirsten Gillibrand D Senator from NY
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John Hickenlooper D Governor of CO
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Brian Schweitzer D Governor of MT
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Other D
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Marco Rubio R Senator from FL
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Chris Christie R Governor of NJ
#10
Rand Paul R Senator from KY
#11
Paul Ryan R Representative from WI
#12
Rick Santorum R former Senator from PA
#13
Bobby Jindal R Governor of LA
#14
Other R
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Third party (specify in comment)
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Author Topic: Who will you vote for in 2016?  (Read 8565 times)
BluegrassBlueVote
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« on: May 12, 2013, 10:04:12 AM »

1. Hillary
2. Cuomo
3. Gillibrand

Unenthusiastic about everyone else, although I'm a Christie fan.
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BluegrassBlueVote
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« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2013, 12:37:35 PM »

Clinton or Gillibrand. Schweitzer and Cuomo are not Democrats.

DINOs DINOs DINOs!!!

They both absolutely are Democrats.
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« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2013, 04:17:06 PM »


Which makes him a FF. Democrats need to realize they can't pretend to support the Bill of Rights and just ignore one of them.

Oh.
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BluegrassBlueVote
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« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2013, 06:09:50 PM »

Clinton or Gillibrand. Schweitzer and Cuomo are not Democrats.

Calling Cuomo and Schweitzer DINOs and being for Hillary Clinton and Kirsten Gillibrand is lolzy.

Cuomo and Schweitzer have positions incompatible with the Democratic agenda. Clinton and Gillibrand do not.

What official position of Cuomo's are you referring to? Schweitzer is on the record about guns, sure.
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BluegrassBlueVote
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« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2013, 08:36:01 PM »

Cuomo isn't on the record for advocating anything that would be contentious in a Democratic primary like Schweitzer and gun control. He's continuously toed the line in his governance as a Clinton-esque centrist, but he wouldn't campaign on anything fiscally conservative. The left would be right to point to his record, but that's nowhere near the same problem as running for the nomination as, say, Huntman's views on climate change or Brian Sandoval and abortion.

Cuomo is just going to try and paint himself as Slick Willy's protege.
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« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2013, 10:37:45 PM »

Cuomo isn't on the record for advocating anything that would be contentious in a Democratic primary like Schweitzer and gun control. He's continuously toed the line in his governance as a Clinton-esque centrist, but he wouldn't campaign on anything fiscally conservative. The left would be right to point to his record, but that's nowhere near the same problem as running for the nomination as, say, Huntman's views on climate change or Brian Sandoval and abortion.

Cuomo is just going to try and paint himself as Slick Willy's protege.

Why should Democrats support that approach when Slick Willy's wife, a true blue liberal, is available and by far more electable?

I didn't say he was the best option available; that wasn't the argument (Cuomo wouldn't run and invoke the Clinton rhetoric if Hillary was part of the field, anyway). I'm merely stating that calling guys like Schweitzer and Cuomo DINOs is nothing short of hack-ish.

There are a lot of those on the left who would disagree on Hillary being a "true blue liberal", too.
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« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2013, 10:55:24 PM »

Would Cuomo advocate cutting funding for homeless youth organizations in a primary?

There's a difference between running away from criticism for past budgetary decisions (which is what Cuomo would do) and embracing an issue that's completely contradictory to current party dogma (such as Brian Sandoval and abortion). One is maneuverable with political skill; the other is a non-starter when vying for the nomination.
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BluegrassBlueVote
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« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2013, 12:36:08 AM »
« Edited: May 13, 2013, 12:38:53 AM by BluegrassBlueVote »

What, cutting a budget in a crappy economy? That's not really a unique "position" Cuomo holds or would campaign on specifically, and it's not unpopular at all for big state governors. You realize Martin O'Malley of all people claims to have cut budgetary spending more than any other Maryland governor, right? Hell, google any Democratic governor along with the words "budget cuts" and see what they're proposing or bragging about.
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« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2013, 10:47:08 AM »

Of all the candidates named above, Schweitzer beats them all hands-down. But Elizabeth Warren would be better.

Only a Kentucky liberal would say that. Again, Schweitzer is not a Democrat. He is incompatible with the 21st century Democratic agenda.

Agreed. Schweitzer's views on health care are much better than the current Democratic agenda.
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