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« Reply #25 on: May 15, 2013, 01:45:09 PM »

So, it's now a scandal that the government can wiretap media organizations for national security reasons, just like every other citizen? Did the press think they were immune to this or something?

What's the scandal?

Especially since so many people, and I bet people in the AP, were complaining about how the Obama admin was handling the leaks...
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« Reply #26 on: May 15, 2013, 01:52:43 PM »

So, it's now a scandal that the government can wiretap media organizations for national security reasons, just like every other citizen? Did the press think they were immune to this or something?

What's the scandal?

Especially since so many people, and I bet people in the AP, were complaining about how the Obama admin was handling the leaks...

They didn't wiretap them, as far as I know. Just the records.
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« Reply #27 on: May 15, 2013, 01:59:10 PM »

Yeah, they didn't tap them at all. All the DOJ got was numbers and dates, they don't even know what was in the conversations.
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« Reply #28 on: May 15, 2013, 06:26:42 PM »


questionable.

There's a reason the government isn't supposed to have broad powers of surveillance over the internal workings of the media.  Goes back in part to something that happened almost exactly 40 years ago.   
Is the Atlas Forum really less concerned about this issue than are both parties in Congress?   Who'da thunk? 
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« Reply #29 on: May 15, 2013, 06:29:36 PM »


questionable.

There's a reason the government isn't supposed to have broad powers of surveillance over the internal workings of the media.  Goes back in part to something that happened almost exactly 40 years ago.   
Is the Atlas Forum really less concerned about this issue than are both parties in Congress?   Who'da thunk? 

As stated above, the government didn't get the internal workings. They just got the dates; there was no actual content in the records they got.
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« Reply #30 on: May 15, 2013, 06:39:43 PM »


questionable.

There's a reason the government isn't supposed to have broad powers of surveillance over the internal workings of the media.  Goes back in part to something that happened almost exactly 40 years ago.   
Is the Atlas Forum really less concerned about this issue than are both parties in Congress?   Who'da thunk? 

As stated above, the government didn't get the internal workings. They just got the dates; there was no actual content in the records they got.

Cite?  I'm pretty sure they got the phone numbers involved.  And that reveals plenty when it comes to the ability of news media to have confidential sources.  Thankfully Pat Leahy gets it.

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« Reply #31 on: May 15, 2013, 06:41:40 PM »

Republicans have descended into self-parody.  Everything is a new Watergate.
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« Reply #32 on: May 15, 2013, 06:49:04 PM »

When you actually look into this story, the AP doesn't look too good.  They could have hampered active intelligence operations, gotten CIA operatives killed and damaged national security.  I don't see why they had to report that story the way that they did.

That has to weigh in the balance of 28 CFR 50.10 in determining whether to issue the subpoena of the phone records.   
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« Reply #33 on: May 16, 2013, 09:07:08 AM »

man, you people....


Would you all be giving the same "it's no big deal" spiel if this exact same thing happened 8 years ago?

I, for one, would not. This makes two straight administrations whose MO includes actively intimidating the press and their sources. This is no less concerning because the President is a smiley, pro-gay Democrat.
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