rank the presidents since 1968....

[MaC]

why was Carter so bad?  I mean he had a hard time getting along with congressof the same party (not his fault), he had to deal with a bad economy (not too many presidents who haven't), and he failed to get the hostages home-which I see as the only major thing.  I mean, by comparison, he didn't increase government nearly as much as others.

[MaC]

I have a real high opinion of the Presidency, and lots of confidence in the people elected for the job

Livable, but not desirable:
1.Ronald Reagan
2.Bill Clinton

Even less desirable, but didn't screw it up too badly:
3.George H. W. Bush
4.Jimmy Carter
5.Gerald Ford

Scum of the earth:
6.George W. Bush
7.Richard Nixon
8.Lyndon Johnson

[MaC]

Using M&C's system

Great:
Bill Clinton

Livable, but not desirable:
Ronald Reagan
Lyndon Johnson
Jimmy Carter
Gerald Ford

Even less desirable, but didn't screw it up too badly:
3.George H. W. Bush


Scum of the earth:
6.George W. Bush
7.Richard Nixon

Hmm, it's a little different than I expect of you Speedy.  What's your criteria?

Mine's Reagan and Clinton at the top for different reasons
Reagan tried reversing the New Deal and enacted the tax cuts, Clinton didn't do much in as far as increasing the size of government or going in deficit.

The middle category really did nothing good, but didn't increase government much.  The status quo for presidents.

The bottom category enjoyed bloodlust through keeping Americans in war, and the bottom two enacted a lot of social programs at the same time.

[MaC]

Using M&C's system

Great:
Bill Clinton

Livable, but not desirable:
Ronald Reagan
Lyndon Johnson
Jimmy Carter
Gerald Ford

Even less desirable, but didn't screw it up too badly:
3.George H. W. Bush


Scum of the earth:
6.George W. Bush
7.Richard Nixon

Hmm, it's a little different than I expect of you Speedy.  What's your criteria?

Mine's Reagan and Clinton at the top for different reasons
Reagan tried reversing the New Deal and enacted the tax cuts, Clinton didn't do much in as far as increasing the size of government or going in deficit.

The middle category really did nothing good, but didn't increase government much.  The status quo for presidents.

The bottom category enjoyed bloodlust through keeping Americans in war, and the bottom two enacted a lot of social programs at the same time.

There are actually a lot of people who aren't that anti-Reagan who are very anti-Bush.

I am anti-Bush, but I refuse to be vocal about it.