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« Reply #1800 on: March 27, 2015, 01:49:18 AM »

Wonder just how big of an impact that food bank gaffe will have on Cameron.
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« Reply #1801 on: March 27, 2015, 08:29:08 AM »

UKIP now seen as the party of sleaze, according to YouGov. Amusing when you think back to the 2009 European election campaign.
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« Reply #1802 on: March 27, 2015, 09:35:32 AM »

The trouble with being a new party that profits from corruption scandals is that you have to then be seriously fycking clean yourself, or at least be seen to be.
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« Reply #1803 on: March 27, 2015, 04:21:13 PM »

again, ignorant newbie here: the most likely scenario is a Conservative-UKIP-(LD) coalition gov't?  is Labour-SNP coalition gov't possible?
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« Reply #1804 on: March 27, 2015, 04:24:17 PM »

ok, a quick look at the odds suggests the number for the Cons is in the high 280s.  UKIP only 4/5.  SNP 43.5.

could it be that SNP will hold all the cards, if both Labour and Cons. are within 45 seats of 326?
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« Reply #1805 on: March 27, 2015, 04:25:22 PM »

again, ignorant newbie here: the most likely scenario is a Conservative-UKIP-(LD) coalition gov't?  is Labour-SNP coalition gov't possible?

No, the most likely outcome (if the election was held today, etc) would be Labour minority with tactical support from the SNP (and Plaid).
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« Reply #1806 on: March 27, 2015, 04:28:13 PM »

Miliband came out fighting last night, people have responded to that and there'a buzz about Ed now. Questions were aggressive and bias-asking DC if he has had 3 shredded wheat then asking Ed if he's a north london geek.

Ed stuck it to DC
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« Reply #1807 on: March 27, 2015, 04:35:21 PM »

again, ignorant newbie here: the most likely scenario is a Conservative-UKIP-(LD) coalition gov't?  is Labour-SNP coalition gov't possible?

No, the most likely outcome (if the election was held today, etc) would be Labour minority with tactical support from the SNP (and Plaid).

a popular betting site has the Cons.  over/under at about 285, with the Labour over/under at around 270.  why is Labour minority considered a favorite (it's not just you, the bettors have Labour minority as a small favorite over Conservative minority), is there a piece to this I'm missing?
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« Reply #1808 on: March 27, 2015, 05:14:48 PM »

Miliband came out fighting last night, people have responded to that and there'a buzz about Ed now. Questions were aggressive and bias-asking DC if he has had 3 shredded wheat then asking Ed if he's a north london geek.

Ed stuck it to DC

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« Reply #1809 on: March 27, 2015, 05:24:59 PM »

Is Cameron going to bother doing the "I saw Her Majesty and asked for a dissolution of Parliament..." bit outside No. 10 on Monday? Or has the Fixed Terms bill killed that tradition?
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« Reply #1810 on: March 27, 2015, 06:31:15 PM »

Seat 'projections' at this stage are basically trash. Ignore.
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« Reply #1811 on: March 27, 2015, 06:32:22 PM »
« Edited: March 27, 2015, 06:44:09 PM by Sibboleth »

Populus say: Labour 33, Con 31, UKIP 16, LDem 9, Greens 5, Others 6

Only minor changes from their last poll.
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« Reply #1812 on: March 27, 2015, 06:39:24 PM »

Was the omission of the liberals intentional, Al? Cheesy
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« Reply #1813 on: March 27, 2015, 06:39:59 PM »

again, ignorant newbie here: the most likely scenario is a Conservative-UKIP-(LD) coalition gov't?  is Labour-SNP coalition gov't possible?

No, the most likely outcome (if the election was held today, etc) would be Labour minority with tactical support from the SNP (and Plaid).

a popular betting site has the Cons.  over/under at about 285, with the Labour over/under at around 270.  why is Labour minority considered a favorite (it's not just you, the bettors have Labour minority as a small favorite over Conservative minority), is there a piece to this I'm missing?

Because, unlike what Jim Murphy deceitfully tries to pitch to the Scottish voters, the biggest party does not necessarily form the government. If Labour + SNP + Plaid Cymru + SDLP + Greens have a majority, which most forecasts suggest right now, David Cameron will have to resign or be faced with a motion of no confidence which will provide the same result. Then Ed Miliband will form a Labour minority government. How stable such a government will be and how difficult it will be for it to carry through legislation of course depends on the arrangements it will make with other parties.
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« Reply #1814 on: March 27, 2015, 06:44:54 PM »

Was the omission of the liberals intentional, Al? Cheesy

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« Reply #1815 on: March 27, 2015, 07:23:26 PM »

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/GALLERY/3335_27_03_15_7_19_57.png

Had a crack at making a constituency map, based on the BBC one. I'll tidy it up if I have some spare time.
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« Reply #1816 on: March 27, 2015, 07:47:50 PM »

ICM have done a poll of London. It shows a very similar pattern to the YouGovs: Labour 42, Con 32, LDem 9, UKIP 9, Greens 8.
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« Reply #1817 on: March 28, 2015, 04:37:34 AM »

again, ignorant newbie here: the most likely scenario is a Conservative-UKIP-(LD) coalition gov't?  is Labour-SNP coalition gov't possible?

No, the most likely outcome (if the election was held today, etc) would be Labour minority with tactical support from the SNP (and Plaid).

a popular betting site has the Cons.  over/under at about 285, with the Labour over/under at around 270.  why is Labour minority considered a favorite (it's not just you, the bettors have Labour minority as a small favorite over Conservative minority), is there a piece to this I'm missing?

If the SNP held the balance of power they would probably give confidence to a Labour government even if the Conservatives had more seats
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« Reply #1818 on: March 28, 2015, 09:28:53 AM »
« Edited: March 28, 2015, 09:31:20 AM by afleitch »

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« Reply #1819 on: March 28, 2015, 09:37:41 AM »


I'd say liberals are quite good in omitting themselves.
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« Reply #1820 on: March 28, 2015, 10:25:25 AM »

And now we enter the world of last minute retirements; there are always a few of these (largely because they entail - for various practical reasons - a suspension of the usual candidate selection methods). It seems that the first is Geoffrey Robinson (Labour, Coventry North West) who has been an MP since a by-election in 1976.

Or is it? It is now being suggested that maybe he isn't going to retire.
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« Reply #1821 on: March 28, 2015, 07:24:41 PM »

Labour 4 points ahead with YouGov, Tories ahead 1 with Opinium. With YouGov, Miliband was seen as having come across the best in the interviews by a margin of 49-34 and his personal ratings have increased to a still rather poor -28 (up from -40something) and his 'better Prime Minister' rating is up to 23% while Cameron's is down to 35%.
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« Reply #1822 on: March 29, 2015, 04:34:59 AM »

And now we enter the world of last minute retirements; there are always a few of these (largely because they entail - for various practical reasons - a suspension of the usual candidate selection methods). It seems that the first is Geoffrey Robinson (Labour, Coventry North West) who has been an MP since a by-election in 1976.

Or is it? It is now being suggested that maybe he isn't going to retire.

LabourList says he's standing again.  There is much less excuse for late retirements now that the date of the election has been known for so long.
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« Reply #1823 on: March 29, 2015, 04:43:55 AM »

Labour 4 points ahead with YouGov, Tories ahead 1 with Opinium. With YouGov, Miliband was seen as having come across the best in the interviews by a margin of 49-34 and his personal ratings have increased to a still rather poor -28 (up from -40something) and his 'better Prime Minister' rating is up to 23% while Cameron's is down to 35%.

It should be pointed out that YouGov's sample of those who watched the interviews seems to have been heavily Labour; those who saw it were Lab 47 Con 28, those who saw clips were Lab 40 Con 28, but those who didn't see it were Con 36 Lab 30.  The questions about the interviews were only asked to those who saw it or saw clips.

However, I note that YouGov also asked their whole sample, as well as the best PM question, "Which party leader do you think is the most honest and trustworthy?", "Which party leader do you think is most in touch with ordinary people's concerns?", and "Which party leader do you think is the most genuine and authenic?", and Miliband led Cameron on all three.  (Cameron was third on the second one, behind Farage as well as Miliband.)
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« Reply #1824 on: March 29, 2015, 11:35:58 AM »

Mike Hancock, the disgraced ex-LibDem (now Independent) MP for Portsmouth South (who also doubles up as the Kremlin's man in the Commons), is to run for re-election as an Independent.

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