The Oldiesfreak Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts III

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Glad to see my name is off of it.

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The Constitution, in favor of the Articles of Confederation.  Of course, one must point out at this point its illegal adoption.

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On Reagan and race:

Perhaps not in his early life.  But he clearly became a closet racist at the same time at which he became a far-right extremist.  He campaigned for Charlton Lyons (a segregationist gubernatorial candidate in Louisiana) in 1964.  And one cannot doubt that he subtly tried to court the votes of racist Southerners: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reagan's_Neshoba_County_Fair_%22states'_rights%22_speech
And he campaigned with Strom Thurmond.  He pursued a policy of "constructive engagement" with the regime in South Africa and recognized them, vetoing bills to put sanctions on them.  He supported them against the ANC.  If that isn't a closet racist, I don't know what is.

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A double whammy...

It's easy to see why they'd make that mistake though...

George Wallace's son - who has the same name - is mostly certainly a Republican these days.

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Yes, of course. It's a disgusting racial slur, it's a name explicitly picked because it was a disgusting racial slur, and it is representative of an ugly period of racism and segregation in American sport.

The worst part is in bold. 

But in fairness to Lief, it was chosen by those evil racist Republicans, wasn't it?

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Generally anything from a leftist tends to fall into this category.

Bravo, sir, for pointing out what nobody on this forum will admit!

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George Wallace's son - who has the same name - is mostly certainly a Republican these days.

Evidence, please?  And considering that Wallace had a change of heart on race after his assassination attempt, that doesn't really mean much.

After joining the GOP in 1998, Wallace Jr. gave speeches to the white supremacist Council of Conservative Citizens in 1998, 1999 and 2005, and has been a guest a few times on a white supremacist talk radio show.

He basically made the logical step that the less stubborn Southern racists (e.g. his father) didn't do, and finally join the welcoming home in the modern Republican Party.

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Another double whammy:

So about Oldiesfreak being big on anti-racism...

I voted HP by mistake, because I thought you meant Congressman John Lewis.

I don't opppse him because he's black, I oppose him because he's a Democrat.

So you're going to disregard all the work he did for the civil rights movement and at SNCC for 25 years of service in Congress on your opposing team?

You're a joke. I honestly hadn't think I'd find an incident with a Republican that I'd be disgusted in more than when Krazen used the bombings on my city as political fodder, but somehow I have. Sure, I absolutely hate facing Mariano Rivera when my boys are facing the Yankees, but off the field, he's arguably the classiest player of all-time, and I'm sad to see him retire. He's against the people I root for, but I can still like him as a person. The fact that you don't proves incidents like Wallacegate's not about race. You just want to score political points.

No; I have much respect for the work he did for the civil rights movement, but considering that, it's amazing that he belongs to a party that included most of the opponents of the civil rights movement.  And he also compared John McCain and Sarah Palin to George Wallace (who was, of course, a Democrat) during the 2008 campaign: http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/1008/John_Lewis_invoking_George_Wallace_says_McCain_and_Palin_playing_with_fire.html

Perhaps someone who was a leader of the civil rights movement understands the actual history of the civil rights movement better than some 19 year old kid reading things on the internet.

Believe me, I've read plenty of history in textbooks (even left-wing ones), and I think I have a pretty good grasp of the history of the civil rights movement.

This

So by that logic, since I've read a bunch of books on child soldiers in Africa, I am now an expert. To hell with college then, I'm going to the United Nations. Thanks, Oldiesfreak!

George W. Bush pardoning Scooter Libby ranks near the top of shameless crony pardons. Worse than Ford/Nixon.

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It's been the long-term goal of the Republican party to reinstate Jim Crow

This is especially bad considering that it was Democrats who supported Jim Crow when it existed.  The emperor has no clothes, folks.  Thanks, DC, for showing some reason on here.

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Another double whammy:

So about Oldiesfreak being big on anti-racism...

I voted HP by mistake, because I thought you meant Congressman John Lewis.

I don't opppse him because he's black, I oppose him because he's a Democrat.

So you're going to disregard all the work he did for the civil rights movement and at SNCC for 25 years of service in Congress on your opposing team?

You're a joke. I honestly hadn't think I'd find an incident with a Republican that I'd be disgusted in more than when Krazen used the bombings on my city as political fodder, but somehow I have. Sure, I absolutely hate facing Mariano Rivera when my boys are facing the Yankees, but off the field, he's arguably the classiest player of all-time, and I'm sad to see him retire. He's against the people I root for, but I can still like him as a person. The fact that you don't proves incidents like Wallacegate's not about race. You just want to score political points.

No; I have much respect for the work he did for the civil rights movement, but considering that, it's amazing that he belongs to a party that included most of the opponents of the civil rights movement.  And he also compared John McCain and Sarah Palin to George Wallace (who was, of course, a Democrat) during the 2008 campaign: http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/1008/John_Lewis_invoking_George_Wallace_says_McCain_and_Palin_playing_with_fire.html

Perhaps someone who was a leader of the civil rights movement understands the actual history of the civil rights movement better than some 19 year old kid reading things on the internet.

Believe me, I've read plenty of history in textbooks (even left-wing ones), and I think I have a pretty good grasp of the history of the civil rights movement.

This

So by that logic, since I've read a bunch of books on child soldiers in Africa, I am now an expert. To hell with college then, I'm going to the United Nations. Thanks, Oldiesfreak!

George W. Bush pardoning Scooter Libby ranks near the top of shameless crony pardons. Worse than Ford/Nixon.

Ah, but it is a bad post.  And can we ban posts in this thread from the Deluge?

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Delaware is extremely democratic, but Tom Carper is one of the biggest Conservadems in the country. Minnesota, meanwhile, has lots of room for Republican victory, but is fairly polarizing, so it tends to elect Liberal Democrats when they do win.

I tend to agree with this, except I would say Delaware.  Of course, Minnesota has Al Franken in the Senate, but I still contend that he was selected, not elected.

Are you THAT dumb? Really? Let's wait and see if he is selected again in 2014.

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Probably the best part of that is the addition of SpongeBob. I mean WTF?

How can a show that's set underwater but yet has fire and a squirrel (Sandy) NOT be stupid?

…Oh, wow.
I bet you're that one guy who stands up in the middle of a movie theater and shouts "This movie sucks, there are no pyroclastic explosions in space!"

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One of the most absurd, ignorant, and bad posts I've seen on here:
 

Republican voters (and especially self-described conservatives) continue to hate gays with all the soul and all their heart and all their might. The Republican politicians are indeed extremely annoyed. Their primary tool for getting workers to vote against their own interests no longer works in much of the country. Though it remains highly effective in other areas. But I have no doubt that they will continue to support oppression and indignity by whatever convenient means in the future. At the moment, it seems like we are returning to the ancient ballad of "States Rights." Why does that sound so darn familiar?

Delaware is extremely democratic, but Tom Carper is one of the biggest Conservadems in the country. Minnesota, meanwhile, has lots of room for Republican victory, but is fairly polarizing, so it tends to elect Liberal Democrats when they do win.

I tend to agree with this, except I would say Delaware.  Of course, Minnesota has Al Franken in the Senate, but I still contend that he was selected, not elected.

Are you THAT dumb? Really? Let's wait and see if he is selected again in 2014.

Probably the best part of that is the addition of SpongeBob. I mean WTF?

How can a show that's set underwater but yet has fire and a squirrel (Sandy) NOT be stupid?

…Oh, wow.
I bet you're that one guy who stands up in the middle of a movie theater and shouts "This movie sucks, there are no pyroclastic explosions in space!"

Oldiesfreak, please don't use this or any thread exclusively as a venue to be passive-aggressive to posters who criticize your bizarre outlook on the world without actually responding. If you must use it for that, at least have the decency to use it other things as well so that your contributions won't be a complete loss.

Or to translate that into short, simple words Oldies can understand: fuck you.

How is my outlook on the world bizarre?  It's based on simple verifiable facts.

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The absurd, ignorant, and bad part is in bold.

I hope a reliable firm like PPP does some new polling in a week or so, I'd be interested to see where things stand. Though I think Davis would be a really long shot in '14, it's worth noting that Tuesday morning she had 1,200 Twitter followers. It's now over 80k. If they screw her district to where she can't win reelection, she should go for Governor anyway.

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Could William Jennings Bryan have been included? He could have been Andrew Jackson without the Indian removal. He would have been interesting.

Most of them -- you know why they would have lost. Any President elected in 1928 or 2004 would have been caught in the economic meltdown sure to happen.

Hubert Humphrey at the least would not have had the scandals of Richard Nixon... and the travesty of Spiro T. Agnew would have never happened. Al Gore? It is hard to imagine any prominent politician to have been worse than Dubya, arguably the worst President that we ever had. Those are two improvements.

TR, 1912 would have been interesting in his own right.

Worse than Franklin Pierce or James Buchanan?

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The absurd, ignorant, and bad part is in bold.

I hope a reliable firm like PPP does some new polling in a week or so, I'd be interested to see where things stand. Though I think Davis would be a really long shot in '14, it's worth noting that Tuesday morning she had 1,200 Twitter followers. It's now over 80k. If they screw her district to where she can't win reelection, she should go for Governor anyway.

http://www.businessinsider.com/most-accurate-polls-of-2012-election-obama-romney-ppp-daily-kos-gallup-rasmussen-2012-11

That may have been true close to the election, but during the summer, PPP was far out of the mainstream of polling.  And honestly, I didn't think there were any pollsters in 2012 that were very accurate.  They were literally all over the place.  One poll had a candidate up by 1 point, another had the same candidate up by 10 points.  And that was in polls with the same sample type and similar margins of error.  2012 was, hands down, the worst campaign I have seen for polling thus far.

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Rah-rah, 4th of July and all that, but no, that's a myth.

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The former, but only to work as security guards and janitors.

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FF of course. Glad to see him back seeking elected office again.

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1 gay (Lindsey Graham)

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It's probably the classic "Hitler and the Nazis were socialists right-wingers" talking point idiot right left wingers and libertarians liberals love to bring up.

However, the average MS voter's opinions on the size of government, tax policy, regulations, and energy would do far more good for the economy

So, 'the economy' means the rich, cheesepizza?  Perhaps you are 'smart', not many people understand that.

A lot of poor ordinary Mississippians vote republican simply because they prefer a smaller government and less taxes. The republican party isn't owned by rich businessmen like a lot of people assume.

Important part bolded.

But most of the rich businessmen nowadays are Democrats.

And to answer your question, no I will not shut up, because many of the same people who accuse me of partisan hackery are engaging in it themselves.

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Meta, I want Democrats elected in the Suth, and I know that wont happen if their black. So I support the white Democrats on the statewide level in primaries.

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It's probably the classic "Hitler and the Nazis were socialists right-wingers" talking point idiot right left wingers and libertarians liberals love to bring up.

However, the average MS voter's opinions on the size of government, tax policy, regulations, and energy would do far more good for the economy

So, 'the economy' means the rich, cheesepizza?  Perhaps you are 'smart', not many people understand that.

A lot of poor ordinary Mississippians vote republican simply because they prefer a smaller government and less taxes. The republican party isn't owned by rich businessmen like a lot of people assume.

Important part bolded.

But most of the rich businessmen nowadays are Democrats.

And to answer your question, no I will not shut up, because many of the same people who accuse me of partisan hackery are engaging in it themselves.

Yet another inconvenient truth, my friend.

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He would've definitely been better than Carter. By '76 he'd stood up to some of the prevailing detente conventional wisdom & would've been much more prepared than Carter as of January 20th, 1977. Carter took about two years to get some sense, a learning curve Fird had the advantage of having had in his first term. Hell, he'd probably be more popular with the Democratic-controlled Congress than Carter the outsider ever was.

While I oppose detante as much as everyone, I don't think it would have been a good idea to confront the Soviets in the 70s when our army was only number one in doing smack.
I have to agree about congress, though. It is far easier to unite barely reformed segregationists with strong conservatives that it is to united barely reformed segregationists with New Left pinkos.

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Duh, it's probably one of the most rabidly left-wing forums I've ever seen.

Which says a whole lot about what you've seen and not a whole lot about objective reality.