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« Reply #50 on: February 09, 2015, 08:20:01 AM »

sure a pro-choice, pro-SSM, pro-immigration, pro-environment Republican could do well in CA. I wish more of those existed

Which is why we have Governor Kashkari.

Oh wait.

He can win, he just needs to run in a year with a better national climate for the GOP.
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« Reply #51 on: February 09, 2015, 09:43:21 AM »

sure a pro-choice, pro-SSM, pro-immigration, pro-environment Republican could do well in CA. I wish more of those existed

Which is why we have Governor Kashkari.

Oh wait.

He can win, he just needs to run in a year with a better national climate for the GOP.

2014 wasn't good enough for the party???
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« Reply #52 on: February 09, 2015, 10:33:10 AM »

California could be relatively close if the GOP became a sane center-right party instead of a bunch of nutjobs. Of course, that's not gonna happen (and Rand Paul is part of the problem).

The sane center-right types increasingly find themselves  irrelevant to the Republican Party. Just look at what it did to Bob Bennett in Utah and Richard Lugar in Indiana. Just note that elder statesman John Warner said of the Republican Party in Virginia.

The GOP is not going to get the message until it feels a left-populist backlash, especially in the South.       
The South is not even left-populist now economically.

The South is cyclical. It's now in a reactionary phase in which the planter ethos reigns. How long that lasts is something that nobody can know. In 1976 all but one former-Confederate state (Virginia, then marginally Southern) voted for Jimmy Carter. But the planter ethos invariably achieves nothing but the enrichment of elites and sets up a populist rejection. I just can't say when, and when that happens, Movement Conservatism is unsustainable in America.
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« Reply #53 on: February 09, 2015, 02:05:23 PM »

Maybe the GOP can win California if they nominate someone who is pro-gay, pro-environment, pro-choice, pro-minimum wage increase, pro-weed, pro-social spending.

Everything the Democrats support.
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« Reply #54 on: February 09, 2015, 08:46:54 PM »

sure a pro-choice, pro-SSM, pro-immigration, pro-environment Republican could do well in CA. I wish more of those existed

Which is why we have Governor Kashkari.

Oh wait.

He can win, he just needs to run in a year with a better national climate for the GOP.

Kashkari also aired an ad drowning a kid and is the face of TARP. Dude is DOA no matter when he runs.
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« Reply #55 on: February 09, 2015, 09:21:03 PM »

Oh my god. Can we just please stop talking about Kashkari forever? Alright, here's a compromise. We forever drop the meme that Kashkari can ~somehow~ win statewide in California.
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« Reply #56 on: February 10, 2015, 02:49:24 AM »

Oh my god. Can we just please stop talking about Kashkari forever? Alright, here's a compromise. We forever drop the meme that Kashkari can ~somehow~ win statewide in California.

Yes. Please.
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« Reply #57 on: February 10, 2015, 04:22:45 AM »

Maybe the GOP can win California if they nominate someone who is pro-gay, pro-environment, pro-choice, pro-minimum wage increase, pro-weed, pro-social spending.

Everything the Democrats support.

The Democrats haven't even tried the marijuana legalization part. I think Sanders is the only potential 2016 candidate who supports it.
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« Reply #58 on: February 10, 2015, 06:45:51 PM »

I really don't see California voting Republican anytime soon. In my opinion, California is one of a few holdout states (along with New York, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, DC, Hawaii and Illinois) that will stick with the Democrats even if they nominate a toxic candidate who will lose every other state to the Republican candidate.
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« Reply #59 on: February 11, 2015, 02:37:50 PM »

Maybe the GOP can win California if they nominate someone who is pro-gay, pro-environment, pro-choice, pro-minimum wage increase, pro-weed, pro-social spending.

Everything the Democrats support.

The Democrats haven't even tried the marijuana legalization part. I think Sanders is the only potential 2016 candidate who supports it.

Yet they have been notably softer on drugs and are known for it among Democratic youngs.
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« Reply #60 on: February 11, 2015, 02:52:05 PM »

Prop 187 killed the Republican Party in California. Next question.
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« Reply #61 on: March 07, 2015, 10:46:35 PM »

I saw an article on the "Cook Political Report" that said CA Whites voted 51% Dem vs the 38% of the White Vote that Dems got nationally in 2014 Congressional Races. The difference was that on the CA coast where 56% of Whites voted for a Dem Candidate. Outside of the CA coast(i.e. inland) CA Whites voted like the rest of the country.
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