SENATE BILL: President Pro-Tempore Activity OSPR Amendment (Passed)

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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Article 2, Section 3 of the Senate Rules, Regulations, and Procedures shall be amended as follow:

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Sponsor: Kalwejt

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Okay Kalwejt, get talking here. 24 hours and all that.


I must saw I really love this. I can totally abuse section one to empower the Dean to start and end votes when necessary for instance. Kind of like how I abused my ability to split legislation to combine these together and give it single title.

We might need to clean this up some more.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Yankee, you're a true pain in the ass and that's why you are basically holding the Senate intact since I just remember. That being said, we've recently experienced some problems with getting things rolling and I think it won't hurt to make Dean able to take over in case of VP and PPT's absence/computer problems/etc. quicker, than originally percribed.

Recently, we've experienced a huge butthurd in Northeast with Lt. Governor (also a Speaker) going missing, so we adopted amendment to improve the chain of command.

I like your idea about the Dean being empowered to start and end voted when necessary.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Of course being empowered and actually getting the job done are two different things don't you know.

It also is a help  at the start of a Senate, should the VP fail to get things rolling now, I (or future longest serving member) could now legally act on Sunday instead of Wednesday.

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Article 2, Section 3 of the Senate Rules, Regulations, and Procedures shall be amended as follow:

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Are there any other changes that need to be made from a standpoint of language or concission requirments?

[MaxQue]

I suppose there is an issue with the second part.

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Either two was struck when it shouldn't have been, either it was rightfully struck, but we forgot to put the new time limit.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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I would say he meant to strike five and insert two and somehow that got garbled. Is that the case Senator Kalwejt? If so then I can alter my text before it is offered and fix it all at once.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

I suppose there is an issue with the second part.

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Either two was struck when it shouldn't have been, either it was rightfully struck, but we forgot to put the new time limit.

Obviously, the part should end with "absence" and it's a typing error.

@Yankee, are you willing to propose an amendment to empower the Dean to open/end votings had the PPT or VP failed to do so without a reason?

Anyway, I'm fully accepting possible text proposed.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Actually Kal, that isn't the issue being raised, but the problem with the number of days. The original text had five, which disappears in yours and instead you have two with strikethrough leaving no time for that period. Were you intending to replace the five with a two like in the other parts of the text?


As for empowering the Dean, I would think that as desired in the amendment here before us, the Dean would be so empowered to act at the discretion of the PPT. And if the PPT is gone for the set period anyway, then the Dean takes over as per the second half of the amendment. What do you mean by "without a reason"? Are you meaning if the PPT intentioanlly did not act to open or close a vote, like as some kind of sabotage? Keep in mind that the PPT derives all his powers from the VP and the VP can revoke and reinstate those at will, so it would be difficult for the PPT to do something like that.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Ah Kalwejt?

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Well, I intended to replace 5 with 2 in all parts. Though if you think it's too quick, I have no problem with extending to 3.

Also, I guess you're right about Dean empowering.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I think two is fine, we just need to fix that error so that is actually becomes two in that one section.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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[HagridOfTheDeep]

I'm not opposed to these changes. Probably good for me to be familiar with them too, seeing as I might one day have the misfortune of being Dean.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

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[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

The amendent has been adopted.

Are there any final concerns with the text or ideas to improve the system?

[MaxQue]

Shouldn't "Atlasia boards" be called "Atlas Fantasy Elections boards", to be exact?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Well the best way to do it would be either to specify the two boards by name in the text or to specify a definition of the term used that includes both boards specifically by name.

[MaxQue]

Amendment:

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Article 2, Section 2 of the Senate Rules, Regulations, and Procedures shall be amended as follow:

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Article 2, Section 3 of the Senate Rules, Regulations, and Procedures shall be amended as follow:

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I put it at the top, since Article 1 comes before Article 2. It's purely technical, it's only defining the words "Atlasia boards" which are proposed to be added to the OSPR by this amendment.

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[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Damn it Maxy, why didn't you tell me you were going to type a text.

[MaxQue]

Oh, great. We have three texts sayings similar things, in three different ways.

Yours exclude child boards, through, like the Voting Booth. Is that a choice or an oversight?

Damn it Maxy, why didn't you tell me you were going to type a text.

Well, I interpreted your message saying than it could be fixed by two ways as meaning "You showed a problem, now fix it". As usual, I'm bad at interpretation of intent of people.

EDIT: Fixed a double post.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I would think that that the board, includes everything contained within, including child boards.

[MaxQue]

I would think that that the board, includes everything contained within, including child boards.

So, it's not a child board, then, it's a fetus board then, since it's still inside its parent.

Joke apart, I see your point and agree with it. I suppose we will consider only one amendment? (I sure hope so, it would be a waste of time of considering the three).

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

 

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The issue at hand only bares on clause three and from my read has no impact on 2 or 1 of Section of 2, therefore inserting it as clause 4 doesn't seem appropriate. It should be a sub clause added on to 3 if anything.