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Platypus
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« on: February 23, 2005, 10:15:28 PM »
You read right Cheesy

I'm going to give two choices at different moments in time, and you choose the course. For the first adventure, we'll start at the 1992 election.

Option 1: Perot runs (historical)
Option 2: Perot does not run (non-historical)

First to three is the route we take Smiley
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« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2005, 10:16:31 PM »
Perot doesn't run.
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« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2005, 10:17:18 PM »
Opt 2
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« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2005, 10:21:57 PM »
thats my choice too, so it's option 2. If someone wants to write a storyline for this, that'd be great; I don't really have the skill or desire Cheesy

OK, so Perot doesn't run. We get closer to the election.

Option One: Bush's tax pledge doesn't come back to bite him in the but (non-historical)
Option Two: It does (historical)
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« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2005, 10:25:57 PM »
Quote from: hughento on February 23, 2005, 10:21:57 PM
thats my choice too, so it's option 2. If someone wants to write a storyline for this, that'd be great; I don't really have the skill or desire Cheesy

OK, so Perot doesn't run. We get closer to the election.

Option One: Bush's tax pledge doesn't come back to bite him in the but (non-historical)
Option Two: It does (historical)

Hmm, tough.  No Perot and no tax gaffe equals Bush second term  most likely. 
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« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2005, 10:26:41 PM »
Option 1.
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« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2005, 10:36:45 PM »
So option 1 has one vote...Jake, i'm not sure what your vote was for Tongue
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« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2005, 10:54:06 PM »
I didn't cast it yet, I think I'll go with, Bush tax gaffe bites him in the butt
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« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2005, 11:03:49 PM »
i'm voting for the historical option as well, so it's 1 vote to 2...
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« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2005, 11:07:18 PM »
I'll make it 2-2.
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« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2005, 11:13:31 PM »
boo! Cheesy

I'm going offline in about 5 so one of them better get a third Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2005, 11:42:01 PM »
Option 1, I BREAK TIE 3-2
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« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2005, 02:54:35 AM »
« Edited: February 24, 2005, 08:32:45 PM by hughento »
OK, non-historical it is.

Without Perot, Bush already has an increased chance of winning. The fact that both campaigns are optimistic and no scandals or any other negativity plagues the campaigns for any elongated time assures that come election night, in a nail-biting finish.

Election results:



Clinton wins 272-266.

(I determine election wins by getting 5 swing states (in this case, PA, MO, IA, NM and OR) and draw to determine the winner. The last state drawn was Iowa, so if we go back to the second-last state, New Mexico, we can say that it was the one that tipped the balance Smiley

Option 1: Clinton's first two years are considered not moderate (historical)
Option 2: Clinton's first two years are very moderate, as he only had a slim victory (non-historical)
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« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2005, 05:43:15 PM »
Option 1
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« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2005, 05:48:51 PM »
Clinton first years are very moderate
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« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2005, 05:57:14 PM »
Option 2.
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« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2005, 07:20:41 PM »
Option 2
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« Reply #17 on: February 24, 2005, 07:36:08 PM »
Option 1.
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« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2005, 09:14:44 PM »
Option 1, 3-3
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« Reply #19 on: February 24, 2005, 09:47:23 PM »

I have no clue which option is which, so I will go with option 1 blindly to break the tie.
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« Reply #20 on: February 24, 2005, 10:08:17 PM »
Option 2 got three votes first, so it wins.
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« Reply #21 on: February 25, 2005, 03:06:34 AM »
Clinton enters office with a platform of reform that he doesn't dare introduce. This causes many problems amongst his base, especially when he introduces a very plae version of his national healthcare scheme. Come the midterms, the Republicans doen't have terribly much to attack, but there is no real enthusiasm in the Democrats either. The "revolution" doesn't really occur, although the GOP does come closer in the House and Senate.

House: 220 Democrats, 216 Republicans
Senate: 51 Democrats, 49 Republicans

The slim maorities force the Democrats to be very moderate, so that all it's members support it's legislation.

In the run-up to the 1996 Presidential Election, three key Republicans run in the primaries: Bob Dole, Lamar Alexander and Chuck Hagel.

Option one: In a meeting of candidates in December, 1995, in Delaware, a scandal breaks out on a candidate (i'll randomly draw which one, non-historical)
Option two: No scandal, all three run (semi-historical)

[Note: From now on, there won't always be a historical optin, only a more and less non-historical]
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« Reply #22 on: February 25, 2005, 03:47:08 AM »
Lets go for option 1
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« Reply #23 on: February 25, 2005, 06:47:22 AM »
Oh, let's go with option 1. Cheesy
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« Reply #24 on: February 25, 2005, 06:58:01 AM »
Option 1, scandal breaks out in Dole or Hagel camps.

Alexander has the best chance against Clinton...
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