SENATE BILL: Getting Guns Off Our Streets Act (Failed)

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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Sponsor: Averroës Nix

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Nix, talk to me now!


Not even evul corporate suits and their incompetent managmenet of the power restoration following tha sh**t storm will protect you from me.

[MaxQue]

Question:

Does there is measures taken to be sure than people are really the owners of the guns they sell to government?

[Marokai Backbeat]

The problem with gun buyback programs in the past have been their super small-scale approach and lack of serious financial backing. Most buyback programs at this point occur on a local level, and rarely ever have more than a million dollars to throw around, let alone anything much larger.

In some ways, this is a bit of an experiment, but it's a worthy one. Gun buyback programs, effective at getting illegal weapons or not, nonetheless reduce the amount of guns in circulation if literally nothing else. I believe that alone is a worthy goal. More than that, though, they are effective at reducing the circulation of unsafe or antiquated weapons that shouldn't be used at all, or aren't being cared for properly. In many ways, this is a kinder, gentler form of gun control, and with half a billion dollars in a nationally organized effort, we stand a much greater chance of matching the success of an Australian style buyback program, rather than a City of Cincinnati gun buyback weekend.

And hell, if it helps, you could look at this as also an economically stimulative proposal.

Does there is measures taken to be sure than people are really the owners of the guns they sell to government?

Such measures usually aren't taken, since the goal is to reduce the amount of guns in circulation as much as possible, and many people don't have documentation on such things, especially since gun control in Atlasia has only very recently gotten strict. Requiring additional procedure would reduce the intended effect.

[Napoleon]

Waste of tax dollars. Sorry.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Faulty basis here.

Gov't buys up guns, guns become scarcer. Prices rise and the manufacturers produce more to take advantage of the resulting higher prices. It is a stimulus program alright, one that will leave more guns on the street and a couple of million dollars more in the portfolios of a bunch of corporate suits who divide their time between NRA rallies (who will also get a cut of that cash as well) and the gulf course.

[Marokai Backbeat]

Faulty basis here.

Gov't buys up guns, guns become scarcer. Prices rise and the manufacturers produce more to take advantage of the resulting higher prices. It is a stimulus program alright, one that will leave more guns on the street and a couple of million dollars more in the portfolios of a bunch of corporate suits who divide their time between NRA rallies (who will also get a cut of that cash as well) and the gulf course.

That is a peculiar view of buyback programs that I have never seen alleged, much less proven.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

It is basic economic principle applied to the situation. You don't prove that it doesn't happen. You prove that there is a contigency or other specialiality that negates its effect. I can think of one myself right now as a academic or theoretical consideration that might have that effect, but it isn't my job as the critic to defend the legislation is it? Plus you bitched at me when I got all academic and theoretical the last time, so obviously you wouldn't approve of me being so to help the defend the bill.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Mr. President?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

72 hour debate minimum has passed just so you know.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Are we doing anything here? Mr. President do you have a response? I will open a vote if silence continues. Dont' try me here now!

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

A final vote is now open on the underlying legislation, please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Nay

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

NAY

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

I don't think it's going to work.

Nay.

[Napoleon]

Nay

[MaxQue]

Abstain

[HagridOfTheDeep]

Nay

It won't work, so why spend the money?

[Sbane]

Nay

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

Nay

[Gass3268]

Abstain

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Vote on Final Passage of the "Getting Guns Off Our Streets Act":

Aye (0):
Nay (: Αverroës Nix, Ben, HagridoftheDeep, Kalwejt, Napoleon, NC Yankee, sbane and Snowstalker
Abstain (2): Gass3268 and MaxQue

Didn't Vote (0): Miracles Do Exist!!!

The bill has been rejected.