Exodus International apologises and shuts down.

[afleitch]

'Ex' gay sham group has dissolved itself. The least it could do.

[MaxQue]

Wierd. Usually, that kind of association disappear into another one or dissipate in silence.

Any reason for that public disendorsement of themselves?

[John Dibble]

Article for those who want one:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/20/exodus-international-shuts-down_n_3470911.html

[DC Al Fine]

Good riddance. Groups like these have been giving conservative Christians a bad name and misleading homosexuals and their families. Telling someone to maintain a life of celibacy is far easier than what they are trying to do.

[afleitch]

Good riddance. Groups like these have been giving conservative Christians a bad name and misleading homosexuals and their families. Telling someone to maintain a life of celibacy is far easier than what they are trying to do.

No. That's both harmful and unkind. The Christian and conservative thing to do is to encourage people to settle down and marry their same sex partner.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

This is truly a testament to how the power of Jesus Christ can touch someone and turn them away from hate and evil.

A couple nights ago I read about a CIA agent in the 80s who discovered Christ and felt shamed and guilt-wracked by all the atrocities the CIA was doing, so he sent a list of the names of a bunch of covert CIA agents to a magazine that was published and effectively destroyed tons of CIA operations (then fled to some South American country for amnesty.) Another example of the great changes that can come to someone through the power of Christ.

[DC Al Fine]

Good riddance. Groups like these have been giving conservative Christians a bad name and misleading homosexuals and their families. Telling someone to maintain a life of celibacy is far easier than what they are trying to do.

No. That's both harmful and unkind. The Christian and conservative thing to do is to encourage people to settle down and marry their same sex partner.

Why? Seriously, walk me through the argument please.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

This is truly a testament to how the power of Jesus Christ can touch someone and turn them away from hate and evil.

A couple nights ago I read about a CIA agent in the 80s who discovered Christ and felt shamed and guilt-wracked by all the atrocities the CIA was doing, so he sent a list of the names of a bunch of covert CIA agents to a magazine that was published and effectively destroyed tons of CIA operations (then fled to some South American country for amnesty.) Another example of the great changes that can come to someone through the power of Christ.

Uh, pro tip - If you want to convert people to Christianity, don't use this story.  Read some of jmfcst's old posts.

[Sopranos Republican]

Good riddance fools, this a good day for Christians as well, people who use the Bible for hate, are the worst.

[minionofmidas]

Good riddance. Groups like these have been giving conservative Christians a bad name and misleading homosexuals and their families. Telling someone to maintain a life of celibacy is far easier than what they are trying to do.

No. That's both harmful and unkind. The Christian and conservative thing to do is to encourage people to settle down and marry their same sex partner.

Why? Seriously, walk me through the argument please.

Sounds to me like Andrew's confusing 'Christian' with 'christlike'.

[John Dibble]

This is truly a testament to how the power of Jesus Christ can touch someone and turn them away from hate and evil.

And it only took a little over three and a half decades of them doing said hate and evil in the name of Jesus Christ for that power to take effect on them!

[Brittain33]

Good riddance. Groups like these have been giving conservative Christians a bad name and misleading homosexuals and their families. Telling someone to maintain a life of celibacy is far easier than what they are trying to do.

Yes, it's easy to "tell someone to maintain a life of celibacy”, but let's not pretend that's a good thing.

[Napoleon]

Good riddance. Groups like these have been giving conservative Christians a bad name and misleading homosexuals and their families. Telling someone to maintain a life of celibacy is far easier than what they are trying to do.

Yes, it's easy to "tell someone to maintain a life of celibacy”, but let's not pretend that's a good thing.

Most people here don't know any other way.

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

It's good to know that people are finally waking up and giving actual science a chance.  It's been proven time and time again that 'anti-gay therapy' is nothing more than crank-science which hurts people and helps no one.  Frankly, it's a shame that this practice is even legal.

It would be nicer if this group renounced their stance entirely and encouraged gay couples to love and live as they desire to, but this is a step in the right direction.

[pbrower2a]

A decade ago on a long-lost Forum one poster praised Exodus International for "freeing" gays from a depraved way of life. But I made sure to note that gay males make up one third of all suicides among males under 21... maybe we need to have more acceptance of gays so that they can make a choice such as Exodus International if they so desired.

The gay son may be the one who takes care of his parents in late-life medical distress.

Of course... gay is okay, and homosexuality is not a choice any more than multiple sclerosis is a choice.

[MaxQue]

homosexuality is not a choice any more than multiple sclerosis is a choice.

Tha's insulting. Comparing homosexuality and multiple sclerosis!

[pbrower2a]

homosexuality is not a choice any more than multiple sclerosis is a choice.

Tha's insulting. Comparing homosexuality and multiple sclerosis!

People with MS deserve a cure. Homophobic behavior is a choice in need of a cure.

[DC Al Fine]

Good riddance. Groups like these have been giving conservative Christians a bad name and misleading homosexuals and their families. Telling someone to maintain a life of celibacy is far easier than what they are trying to do.

Yes, it's easy to "tell someone to maintain a life of celibacy”, but let's not pretend that's a good thing.

Most people here don't know any other way.

[Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook]

Good job shutting down a program that fails 99.99999999999% of the time (there are ex-gays around, but they are few and far between.)

[MyRescueKittehRocks]

Good riddance. Groups like these have been giving conservative Christians a bad name and misleading homosexuals and their families. Telling someone to maintain a life of celibacy is far easier than what they are trying to do.

No. That's both harmful and unkind. The Christian and conservative thing to do is to encourage people to settle down and marry their same sex partner.

No The Christian and conservative thing to do is to encourage people to pursue and marry an opposite sex partner. How is it conservative and Christian to allow folks to choose a lifestyle which if not repented of will lead to a very bad scenario in eternity. Everybody here knows my opposition to the gay lifestyle and gay marriage is rooted in scripture andIn natural law. It is not a motive of hate that leads me. It is a motive of love for my fellow man that I express my opinion on this issue and its dissapointing that many see my view and motive as hateful. I happen to agree with your assessment Matt in VT.

[DC Al Fine]

Good riddance. Groups like these have been giving conservative Christians a bad name and misleading homosexuals and their families. Telling someone to maintain a life of celibacy is far easier than what they are trying to do.

No. That's both harmful and unkind. The Christian and conservative thing to do is to encourage people to settle down and marry their same sex partner.

No The Christian and conservative thing to do is to encourage people to pursue and marry an opposite sex partner. How is it conservative and Christian to allow folks to choose a lifestyle which if not repented of will lead to a very bad scenario in eternity. Everybody here knows my opposition to the gay lifestyle and gay marriage is rooted in scripture andIn natural law. It is not a motive of hate that leads me. It is a motive of love for my fellow man that I express my opinion on this issue and its dissapointing that many see my view and motive as hateful. I happen to agree with your assessment Matt in VT.

Well in the case of homosexuals, I think celibacy is probably a better option than heterosexual marriage. Otherwise I'm with you JCL.

[bedstuy]

Good riddance. Groups like these have been giving conservative Christians a bad name and misleading homosexuals and their families. Telling someone to maintain a life of celibacy is far easier than what they are trying to do.

No. That's both harmful and unkind. The Christian and conservative thing to do is to encourage people to settle down and marry their same sex partner.

No The Christian and conservative thing to do is to encourage people to pursue and marry an opposite sex partner. How is it conservative and Christian to allow folks to choose a lifestyle which if not repented of will lead to a very bad scenario in eternity. Everybody here knows my opposition to the gay lifestyle and gay marriage is rooted in scripture andIn natural law. It is not a motive of hate that leads me. It is a motive of love for my fellow man that I express my opinion on this issue and its dissapointing that many see my view and motive as hateful. I happen to agree with your assessment Matt in VT.

Well in the case of homosexuals, I think celibacy is probably a better option than heterosexual marriage. Otherwise I'm with you JCL.

Why don't you just ignore the parts of the Bible that say gay sex is wrong or find a new way to interpret those parts? 

Aside from religion, there's no way to say that homosexuality is wrong.  None.  And your primitive ideas do have real consequences in people's lives.  You are actually hurting people by spreading these dumb beliefs about gay people.  It's not some abstract theological idea.  What's so hard about accepting gay people?

[DC Al Fine]

Good riddance. Groups like these have been giving conservative Christians a bad name and misleading homosexuals and their families. Telling someone to maintain a life of celibacy is far easier than what they are trying to do.

No. That's both harmful and unkind. The Christian and conservative thing to do is to encourage people to settle down and marry their same sex partner.

No The Christian and conservative thing to do is to encourage people to pursue and marry an opposite sex partner. How is it conservative and Christian to allow folks to choose a lifestyle which if not repented of will lead to a very bad scenario in eternity. Everybody here knows my opposition to the gay lifestyle and gay marriage is rooted in scripture andIn natural law. It is not a motive of hate that leads me. It is a motive of love for my fellow man that I express my opinion on this issue and its dissapointing that many see my view and motive as hateful. I happen to agree with your assessment Matt in VT.

Well in the case of homosexuals, I think celibacy is probably a better option than heterosexual marriage. Otherwise I'm with you JCL.

Why don't you just ignore the parts of the Bible that say gay sex is wrong or find a new way to interpret those parts? 

Aside from religion, there's no way to say that homosexuality is wrong.  None.  And your primitive ideas do have real consequences in people's lives.  You are actually hurting people by spreading these dumb beliefs about gay people.  It's not some abstract theological idea.  What's so hard about accepting gay people?

[bedstuy]

Good riddance. Groups like these have been giving conservative Christians a bad name and misleading homosexuals and their families. Telling someone to maintain a life of celibacy is far easier than what they are trying to do.

No. That's both harmful and unkind. The Christian and conservative thing to do is to encourage people to settle down and marry their same sex partner.

No The Christian and conservative thing to do is to encourage people to pursue and marry an opposite sex partner. How is it conservative and Christian to allow folks to choose a lifestyle which if not repented of will lead to a very bad scenario in eternity. Everybody here knows my opposition to the gay lifestyle and gay marriage is rooted in scripture andIn natural law. It is not a motive of hate that leads me. It is a motive of love for my fellow man that I express my opinion on this issue and its dissapointing that many see my view and motive as hateful. I happen to agree with your assessment Matt in VT.

Well in the case of homosexuals, I think celibacy is probably a better option than heterosexual marriage. Otherwise I'm with you JCL.

Why don't you just ignore the parts of the Bible that say gay sex is wrong or find a new way to interpret those parts? 

Aside from religion, there's no way to say that homosexuality is wrong.  None.  And your primitive ideas do have real consequences in people's lives.  You are actually hurting people by spreading these dumb beliefs about gay people.  It's not some abstract theological idea.  What's so hard about accepting gay people?

You can tell me that I should never have sex or love someone.  I'll just dismiss you as a backwards fundamentalist.  But, don't tell me that you're accepting me.  You're not.

[Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook]

Good riddance. Groups like these have been giving conservative Christians a bad name and misleading homosexuals and their families. Telling someone to maintain a life of celibacy is far easier than what they are trying to do.

No. That's both harmful and unkind. The Christian and conservative thing to do is to encourage people to settle down and marry their same sex partner.

No The Christian and conservative thing to do is to encourage people to pursue and marry an opposite sex partner. How is it conservative and Christian to allow folks to choose a lifestyle which if not repented of will lead to a very bad scenario in eternity. Everybody here knows my opposition to the gay lifestyle and gay marriage is rooted in scripture andIn natural law. It is not a motive of hate that leads me. It is a motive of love for my fellow man that I express my opinion on this issue and its dissapointing that many see my view and motive as hateful. I happen to agree with your assessment Matt in VT.

Well in the case of homosexuals, I think celibacy is probably a better option than heterosexual marriage. Otherwise I'm with you JCL.

Why don't you just ignore the parts of the Bible that say gay sex is wrong or find a new way to interpret those parts? 

Aside from religion, there's no way to say that homosexuality is wrong.  None.  And your primitive ideas do have real consequences in people's lives.  You are actually hurting people by spreading these dumb beliefs about gay people.  It's not some abstract theological idea.  What's so hard about accepting gay people?

What does red fish have to do with accepting gays?