The Snowstalker/Mitt Romney Memorial Institute of Flip Floppery

[Grumpier Than Thou]

Why we don't already have this thread boggles my mind

Go

Also, posting my entire posting history here does count.

[Maxwell]

I've had some changes of heart here, so I have no reason to talk, but nevertheless.

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[Snowstalker Mk. II]

Yeah, I experiment with ideologies like the average hippie with drugs.

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

Affirmative action is wrong.  Schools and employers should take the best person for the job.  period.  Giving a minority a job over a white person based on skin color is just racism the other way around.

I was such a horrible when I was a teen. 

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

 more tax cuts, bigger defense/intelligence budgets.  

How does that add up if you cut taxes even further there won’t be dime to fund defence you'll be writing checks your ass can’t cash! If the Republicans did something like that they'd basically destroy social security as we (including Bill here) knew it... nobody will vote for a party that’s basically says...

 "oh you want to be cared for when you get old?"

 "yes that would be swell! worked for my dad and my granddad"

"oh well sorry about this but we could give you that or a tax cut and we'd like to give you a tax cut and while we're at it we'll spend any money we are lucky enough to get and some that well we don’t really have (he he) on massive defence programs against a myriad of foes who are coming to destroy the United States"

"But we spend three time what any other nation does on its military"

"Your point"

Sorry but your sums don’t add up and your recommendations are a recipe for disaster...      

The defense budget is too small, and the entitlements are too big - actually I'd rather they didn't exsist.  But if you ask the productive members of society (aka the Rich) whether they'd rather have a balanced budget or a tax cut, I think they'd take the later.  I know I would.  The sums don't have to add up, and the deficit is no big deal.

[Grumpier Than Thou]

1924 - Calvin Coolidge (R)
1932 - William Hope Harvey (Liberty)
1936 - Alf Landon (R)
1940 - Wendell Wilkie (R)
1944 - Thomas E. Dewey (R)
1972 - John Hospers (L)
1976 - Roger MacBride (L)
1980 - Ronald Reagan (R)
1984 - Ronald Reagan (R)
1988 - Ron Paul (L)
2000 - Harry Browne (L)
2004 - Michael Badnarik (L)
2008 - Bob Barr (L)

I refuse to read the Communist Manifesto. I am easily impressionable and I do not want to pick up anything that'd change me radically.

Economic Issues:

I am a Laissez-faire Capitalist and I believe the Government should not interfere at ALL with the economy. If a large corporation is failing, it is not the Government's job to keep them afloat. I support lower taxes on ALL income brackets and I also support deregulation of all corporations. While I believe most corporate CEOs are inherently evil, I believe that business is not inherently evil.

Social Issues (Domestic)

I supporter tighter boarders and the promotion of legal immigration.

Gems.

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

I'll just continue to pick on myself.

1900- McKinley
1904- Roosevelt
1908- Taft
1912- Wilson
1916- Wilson
1920- Cox
1924- Davis
1928- Smith
1932- FDR
1936- FDR
1940- FDR
1944- FDR
1948- Truman
1952- Eisenhower
1956- Eisenhower
1960- Kennedy
1964- Johnson
1968- Nixon
1972- Nixon
1976- Carter
1980- Carter
1984- Reagan
1988- Dukakis
1992- Clinton
1996- Clinton
2000- Gore

18 Dems, 8 Reps

Good lord.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

I refuse to read the Communist Manifesto. I am easily impressionable and I do not want to pick up anything that'd change me radically.

I guess you ended up reading it?

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

I'll just continue to pick on myself.

1900- McKinley
1904- Roosevelt
1908- Taft
1912- Wilson
1916- Wilson
1920- Cox
1924- Davis
1928- Smith
1932- FDR
1936- FDR
1940- FDR
1944- FDR
1948- Truman
1952- Eisenhower
1956- Eisenhower
1960- Kennedy
1964- Johnson
1968- Nixon
1972- Nixon
1976- Carter
1980- Carter
1984- Reagan
1988- Dukakis
1992- Clinton
1996- Clinton
2000- Gore

18 Dems, 8 Reps

Good lord.

Yep.


That's a paddlin'.

[H. Ross Peron]

Most of my posts before my return this year.

[Grumpier Than Thou]

I refuse to read the Communist Manifesto. I am easily impressionable and I do not want to pick up anything that'd change me radically.

I guess you ended up reading it?

Yeah, I did

[Oldiesfreak1854]

Shouldn't we include John Kerry's name in here as well?  His "flip-flops" were worse than Romney's.  Romney simply changed his positions over time, something that nearly everybody does.  John Kerry repeatedly changed his positions based on his audience.

[Oak Hills]

Shouldn't we include John Kerry's name in here as well?  His "flip-flops" were worse than Romney's.  Romney simply changed his positions over time, something that nearly everybody does.  John Kerry repeatedly changed his positions based on his audience.

Uh, Romney did that too. When I was listening to the first general election debate, it felt like half of his positions were brand-new.

[CatoMinor]

I refuse to read the Communist Manifesto. I am easily impressionable and I do not want to pick up anything that'd change me radically.

I am beginning to see what happened to you.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Seriously now, if you are afraid to read something for fear of changing your mind, your political beliefs (whatever they are) are utterly worthless. More than having moved away from libertarianism, I hope you have moved away from this mentality, Jake.

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

More wisdom from teenage HockeyDude

I am -6.22

I am for full marriage to gays, abortion in the 1st and 2nd trimester, gun control with testing, complete seperation of church and state, taking God out of the Pledge and off currency, and lowing the voting age to 16

I have a few conserative social stances. I'm all for the death penalty, against partial birth abortion, and strongly opposed to affirmative action.  

Not so much partial-birth abortion, but the other two. 

[Supersonic]

More wisdom from teenage HockeyDude

I am -6.22

I am for full marriage to gays, abortion in the 1st and 2nd trimester, gun control with testing, complete seperation of church and state, taking God out of the Pledge and off currency, and lowing the voting age to 16

I have a few conserative social stances. I'm all for the death penalty, against partial birth abortion, and strongly opposed to affirmative action. 

Not so much partial-birth abortion, but the other two. 

From what I've read, teenage HockeyDude seems politically pretty sound.

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

More wisdom from teenage HockeyDude

I am -6.22

I am for full marriage to gays, abortion in the 1st and 2nd trimester, gun control with testing, complete seperation of church and state, taking God out of the Pledge and off currency, and lowing the voting age to 16

I have a few conserative social stances. I'm all for the death penalty, against partial birth abortion, and strongly opposed to affirmative action. 

Not so much partial-birth abortion, but the other two. 

From what I've read, teenage HockeyDude seems politically pretty sound.

Being political sound ain't gonna change the world, Soopah.  : P

[Grumpier Than Thou]

Seriously now, if you are afraid to read something for fear of changing your mind, your political beliefs (whatever they are) are utterly worthless. More than having moved away from libertarianism, I hope you have moved away from this mentality, Jake.

I have absolutely moved away from that. It mostly happened when I was required to read both the Communist Manifesto as well as multiple works by Adam Smith in school.

[CatoMinor]

Seriously now, if you are afraid to read something for fear of changing your mind, your political beliefs (whatever they are) are utterly worthless. More than having moved away from libertarianism, I hope you have moved away from this mentality, Jake.

I have absolutely moved away from that. It mostly happened when I was required to read both the Communist Manifesto as well as multiple works by Adam Smith in school.

Now I am getting a really clear picture of what happened. 
Well, since you are into taking in more works that could challenge your beliefs (which is a good thing), might I suggest some of Ayn Rand's novels? I am not a Rand fan myself at all, but they might be a good starting point before trying to tackle things from Smith or Hayek.

[afleitch]

Seriously now, if you are afraid to read something for fear of changing your mind, your political beliefs (whatever they are) are utterly worthless. More than having moved away from libertarianism, I hope you have moved away from this mentality, Jake.

I have absolutely moved away from that. It mostly happened when I was required to read both the Communist Manifesto as well as multiple works by Adam Smith in school.

Now I am getting a really clear picture of what happened.
Well, since you are into taking in more works that could challenge your beliefs (which is a good thing), might I suggest some of Ayn Rand's novels? I am not a Rand fan myself at all, but they might be a good starting point before trying to tackle things from Smith or Hayek.

I'd rather eat bees than read an Ayn Rand novel. They are just awful.

[Leftbehind]

Now I am getting a really clear picture of what happened.
Well, since you are into taking in more works that could challenge your beliefs (which is a good thing), might I suggest some of Ayn Rand's novels? I am not a Rand fan myself at all, but they might be a good starting point before trying to tackle things from Smith or Hayek.

Amazed that someone can be so condescending whilst at the same time recommending Ayn Rand novels.

[CatoMinor]

Now I am getting a really clear picture of what happened.
Well, since you are into taking in more works that could challenge your beliefs (which is a good thing), might I suggest some of Ayn Rand's novels? I am not a Rand fan myself at all, but they might be a good starting point before trying to tackle things from Smith or Hayek.

Amazed that someone can be so condescending whilst at the same time recommending Ayn Rand novels.

I was just trying to recommend some good reading and thought it might be best to give those a shot first before getting into the other stuff, not trying to be condescending. I am not a fan of her at all, but it can be a good starting point.

[free my dawg]

Oldiesfreak on Anthony Wiener:

Disgusting.

This.  How soon they forget.

Louisiana: David Vitter (R)

[Grumpier Than Thou]

Seriously now, if you are afraid to read something for fear of changing your mind, your political beliefs (whatever they are) are utterly worthless. More than having moved away from libertarianism, I hope you have moved away from this mentality, Jake.

I have absolutely moved away from that. It mostly happened when I was required to read both the Communist Manifesto as well as multiple works by Adam Smith in school.

Now I am getting a really clear picture of what happened. 
Well, since you are into taking in more works that could challenge your beliefs (which is a good thing), might I suggest some of Ayn Rand's novels? I am not a Rand fan myself at all, but they might be a good starting point before trying to tackle things from Smith or Hayek.

I've read Atlas Shrugged three times (vomits) and her essential essays or whatever twice. She's boring and gratuitous.

Oldiesfreak on Anthony Wiener:

Disgusting.

This.  How soon they forget.

Louisiana: David Vitter (R)

That's not flip floppery, that's plain hypocrisy.