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« on: July 14, 2013, 08:28:46 PM »

This should be very amusing.
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« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2013, 08:31:03 PM »

Zimmerman would have been convicted of manslaughter.
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« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2013, 08:31:55 PM »

Manslaughter, it was the appropriate charge.
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« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2013, 08:32:15 PM »

No one would care because the case would have never garnered enough attention to make it a national story...
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« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2013, 08:34:15 PM »

Manslaughter, it was the appropriate charge.
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« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2013, 08:35:25 PM »

As Dibble said in the other thread: No watchman, regardless of race, would question a white boy walking around a gated community.
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« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2013, 08:36:12 PM »

Not guilty, just like in the Zimmerman case.

And I would have done so reluctantly, against my hunch, because of the lack of proof, just like in the Zimmerman case.
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« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2013, 11:25:41 PM »

It's hard to say since white Martin clearly would have never been approached.
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« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2013, 01:07:31 AM »

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« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2013, 09:49:53 AM »

As Dibble said in the other thread: No watchman, regardless of race, would question a white boy walking around a gated community.

This is a fact.

It's also a fact that if the two switched races, Zimmerman would have been convicted in a heartbeat.
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« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2013, 10:04:24 AM »

It's also a fact that if this was 60 years ago, Zimmerman might not have been prosecuted in the first place.
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« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2013, 10:48:17 AM »

Not guilty
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« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2013, 11:56:15 AM »

No one would care because the case would have never garnered enough attention to make it a national story...
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« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2013, 12:34:00 PM »

No one would care because the case would have never garnered enough attention to make it a national story...
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That's very true. Blacks murder non-blacks all the time and when they murder other blacks the media looks the other way because it gives the black community a bad name.
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« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2013, 12:42:17 PM »

No one would care because the case would have never garnered enough attention to make it a national story...
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Very true and our hypothetical black Zimmerman would be in jail or death row. Agreed?
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« Reply #15 on: July 15, 2013, 01:07:38 PM »

No one would care because the case would have never garnered enough attention to make it a national story...
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Very true and our hypothetical black Zimmerman would be in jail or death row. Agreed?

Not death row.
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« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2013, 01:07:49 PM »

As Dibble said in the other thread: No watchman, regardless of race, would question a white boy walking around a gated community.
And nobody, in southern suburbia, would dream of sparing him the electic chair if he did.
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« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2013, 01:09:03 PM »

Red avatars: Why on earth do you think black Zimmerman would get a 1st degree murder conviction?
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« Reply #18 on: July 15, 2013, 01:12:21 PM »

As Dibble said in the other thread: No watchman, regardless of race, would question a white boy walking around a gated community.
And nobody, in southern suburbia, would dream of sparing him the electic chair if he did.

Oh, quit your trolling.  Someone from Southern suburbia has already said they'd find him not guilty, in this very thread...

Not guilty, just like in the Zimmerman case.

And I would have done so reluctantly, against my hunch, because of the lack of proof, just like in the Zimmerman case.
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« Reply #19 on: July 15, 2013, 01:22:05 PM »

Red avatars: Why on earth do you think black Zimmerman would get a 1st degree murder conviction?

Because that's the way the justice system works in this country when a violent ghetto thug stalks and murders an innocent white child. Especially in a Southern state like Florida. Burdens of proof aren't necessary when the defendant is black.
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« Reply #20 on: July 15, 2013, 01:46:19 PM »

I personally believe nothing would have happened at all, echoing this:

As Dibble said in the other thread: No watchman, regardless of race, would question a white boy walking around a gated community.

And if the altercation still did happen, it probably would have been like this:

No one would care because the case would have never garnered enough attention to make it a national story...

Black Zimmerman wouldn't have been allowed to just go home, he would have definitely been taken back to the police statiion and they would have crossed every T and dotted every I from the beginning. The media only got interested when that wasn't the case.

I think it would have been more likely for him to get the manslaughter charge but I wouldn't be surprised if he still got off.



I like the question of swapped races here, hence why I posted the thread with that picture, because it's very interesting how people with different viewpoints interpret it totally different ways.
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« Reply #21 on: July 15, 2013, 01:52:39 PM »

Red avatars: Why on earth do you think black Zimmerman would get a 1st degree murder conviction?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_and_ethnic_discrimination_in_the_United_States
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« Reply #22 on: July 15, 2013, 01:55:23 PM »

Though I have to say, to be fair, Zimmerman didn't look all that white to me.  He looked like he could have been mixed race or Hispanic.  I suppose he could be a Jew.
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« Reply #23 on: July 15, 2013, 02:09:08 PM »

Though I have to say, to be fair, Zimmerman didn't look all that white to me.  He looked like he could have been mixed race or Hispanic.  I suppose he could be a Jew.

And his name ends with man, and names ending in man are Jewish.
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« Reply #24 on: July 15, 2013, 02:11:59 PM »

Three similar cases, with the racial roles reversed: http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2013/07/15/2297541/self-defense-zimmerman/?mobile=nc

SPOILER ALERT: the black people lose each time.
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