SENATE BILL: Cannabinoid Legalization Act (Law'd)

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

You have 24 hours sbane and I am in a very bad mood so don't try me here.

[Sbane]

These synthetic cannabinoids were not legalized along with Marijuana by F.L 47-4, even though they have a similar effect on the body as the plant and have the same risk profile as the plant. This is just a common sense bill to treat these substances in the same manner as the plant, meaning legalizing it and bringing it under the regulations outlined in F.L 47-4.

https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Consolidated_Marijuana_Regulation_Act

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Would you be willing to go into detail about this "risk profile"?

Is there any difference at all between the synthetic version and the real thing that would lead to their being any "reasonable" concerns regarding health or safety, such as in terms of the production process for instance?

[Sbane]

Would you be willing to go into detail about this "risk profile"?

Is there any difference at all between the synthetic version and the real thing that would lead to their being any "reasonable" concerns regarding health or safety, such as in terms of the production process for instance?

The point is that it is the same drug, working on the same receptors. It will be more heavily metabolized than a smoked form due to the first pass effect, causing the psychoactive metabolite to be more prominent, but that is the case with edible products as well. The risk profile is exactly the same as Marijuana. And according to the FDA, the synthetic products are somehow safer, a declaration that is based on politics rather than science.

[Napoleon]

I will be supporting this.

[HagridOfTheDeep]

I will not be voting to expand the availability of recreational drugs... but I doubt my vote will make a difference.

[Sec. of State Superique]

Once I was reading a book that said that Synthetic Cannabinoids were more harmful to the Human Being than normal marijuana. The Bush Senior Administration tried to impose synthetic cannabinoid rather than using normal marijuana and the results were stress, huge headaches and other similiar effects...

[Sbane]

People notice more undesirable side effects with oral cannabis due to the massive first pass effect I mentioned before. The active metabolite can cause side effects such as dysphoria. It does not make it any more harmful than regular Marijuana though. There is no evidence that suggests it is more harmful than regular Marijuana. If anyone feels it is, they can present their evidence.

In any case, we must be weighing the risks of the drug versus the massive cost of prohibition. To ban a substance that is so similar to one that is legal makes no sense.

[TJ in Oregon]

As much as I disdain the legalization of recreational drugs, I don't see why we would have marijuana legal and synthetic marijuana illegal. I haven't heard of people really doing synthetic pot, though I can't say I hang out in those circles much. Is there actually a market for this? Since I don't see a point in having it outlawed and marijuana legal, I'm oddly inclined to support this for consistency, though like Hagrid I have reservations about increasing access for recreational drug use.

[Sbane]

I don't oppose this legislation, but I would prefer that we continue to require FDA approval for these substances.

I would be fine with that as well. In fact, I would be fine with the FDA regulating quality of all Marijuana that is sold......

As much as I disdain the legalization of recreational drugs, I don't see why we would have marijuana legal and synthetic marijuana illegal. I haven't heard of people really doing synthetic pot, though I can't say I hang out in those circles much. Is there actually a market for this? Since I don't see a point in having it outlawed and marijuana legal, I'm oddly inclined to support this for consistency, though like Hagrid I have reservations about increasing access for recreational drug use.

Synthetic pot isn't as popular because it is harder to get, doesn't lead to the same effect as smoking, and people don't trust the "evil" pharmaceutical industry. This is mostly for the sake of consistency since I doubt many people would be even interested in this with Marijuana itself being legal. This is why we should really move on to a final vote and get this over with. There is not much here to debate. This is basically the same as edible pot.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Does the current text allow/require for FDA regulation? Your post seems to indicate we don't currently for the regular stuff and the relevant clause in this is dependent on our statute for the regular stuff and thus the same.

[Sbane]

The current text says nothing about FDA regulations or quality control.

Here is a possible amendment:

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Does that look good? The last sentence is important because there are different regulations regarding prescription drugs and other food and drug products (including dietary supplements). I envision that Marijuana and synthetic cannabinoids used recreationally will be regulated in a similar fashion as dietary supplements while synthetic cannabinoids used in a medical setting, for AIDS and cancer patients, will be regulated as it is currently in the USA.

[TNF]

Looks great, Sbane. I'll be voting Aye.

[MaxQue]

Doesn't synthetic cannabinoids already legalized in 31-10?

[Gass3268]

I questioned this bill at first, but the FDA regulation won me over.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

That looks good sbane, go ahead and offer it.


And thank god someone has finally utilized the text-amendment differntiation to avoid getting delayed by procedure. Love you sbane!

[Sbane]

I am offering this amendment:

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[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Everyone down for a final vote here once the amendment is over?

[MaxQue]

Doesn't synthetic cannabinoids already legalized in 31-10?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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Hmmmm

[MaxQue]

Marinol, too.

That is leaving Cesamet... which is a synthetic cannabinoid.

So much for 47-4 being called "Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act". It's not Consolidated at all.

I propose not holding a vote until TNF can take act than he wants to legalize substances that are already legal. Perhaps he will want to keep Clause 4 as a stand-alone bill.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

The amendment has been adopted.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

So where does that leave us? Does the bill need to rewritten?