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Question: Do you support or oppose a ban on abortion after 20 weeks of pregnancy ?
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Tender Branson
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« on: July 18, 2013, 11:26:35 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2013, 11:33:44 AM »

Hell yes!
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« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2013, 11:37:08 AM »

I support banning abortion past the point of viability, with the exception of severe birth defects and risk to the mother's heath. But 20 weeks is too early, so NAY (R).
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« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2013, 11:42:15 AM »

No.
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« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2013, 12:11:39 PM »

I support terminations up to the point of viability which is a window; it's not a definitive day or even week. So the flexibility has to be there. So no on 20 weeks.
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« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2013, 12:16:16 PM »

Yes, with certain exceptions.
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« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2013, 12:17:55 PM »

Absolutely - would like to take it even further.
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« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2013, 12:19:55 PM »

Same. Rape, incest, and the health of the mother (after all, she has a right to life as well) should be considered.

It should be noted that caring for the unborn is not a "hatred" for women.
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« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2013, 01:11:54 PM »
« Edited: July 18, 2013, 01:25:00 PM by Torie »

I cannot support a blanket ban. There needs to be exceptions for the physical health of the mother where there is a material medical risk of serious injury, and of course death, and for deformed fetuses, for starters. With appropriate exceptions, I could support such a ban if carefully drafted, and where the punishment lies with the doctor or abortion performer, rather than the mother.

Indeed these exceptions are necessary to make any such law at least arguably Constitutional, under the O'Conner drafted SCOTUS undue burden on the woman standard.
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« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2013, 01:15:02 PM »

I support terminations up to the point of viability which is a window; it's not a definitive day or even week. So the flexibility has to be there. So no on 20 weeks.
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« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2013, 01:18:02 PM »

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« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2013, 01:22:47 PM »

No.
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« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2013, 02:10:09 PM »

I don't understand the wording of the question.  Should you say no if you oppose such a ban and yes if you support it?  Because the question asks if you support OR oppose.  So, literally you should say yes if you support or oppose a ban at 20 weeks, and no if you neither support or oppose it.
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« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2013, 02:14:53 PM »

Yes (D), reluctantly. Would support 22-24 weeks with more ease.
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« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2013, 02:32:19 PM »

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« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2013, 03:38:05 PM »

No (D)
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« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2013, 03:46:38 PM »

No, duh.
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« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2013, 04:21:27 PM »

Yes.
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« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2013, 05:00:00 PM »

Yes (D)
The process of a late term abortion in itself is exceptionally gruesome
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« Reply #19 on: July 18, 2013, 05:21:12 PM »

After 20 Weeks, Yes with some exceptions like rape or incest, just permanent ban of abortion anytime I would never support. If people can't decide what to do with your baby after 20 weeks then that's their problem. Babies can feel pain after 20 weeks so it is close to murder to have an abortion at that point.
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« Reply #20 on: July 18, 2013, 05:52:06 PM »

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« Reply #21 on: July 18, 2013, 05:54:39 PM »

This is a hard issue for me.  Part of me says yes of course, but another says I shouldn't make this decision since I am not in the same situation as some of these women.  So Undecided.
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« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2013, 06:04:45 PM »
« Edited: July 18, 2013, 06:07:06 PM by Franknburger »

Yes (D)
The process of a late term abortion in itself is exceptionally gruesome

..for the (almost viable) child as well as for the mother.

Personally, I am fine with the 3-month (13 weeks) rule that exists in Germany. Gives the potential mother (parents) sufficient time to reflect on the situation and possible options (including offering the baby for adoption) - also in cases of rape or incest.

If in the course of the pregnancy serious risks for the life of the mother become apparent, I would not consider it abortion. In that case, we are talking about a medical decision geared as protecting livelihood to the extent possible - even during birth, there may be situations where a decision has to be taken between saving the mother's or the child's life. Such medical decisions should not be justiciable, to the extent they are taken in accordance with standard medical practice.

With the "deformed foetuses" argument people are getting dangerously close to euthanasia. IMO, from the moment in-utero diagnostics of the child become possible, abortions should be banned. [Again, if the foetus turns out to be obviously not liveable, and keeping it could endanger the mother's health, I would not consider it abortion, but taking a medical decision geared at protecting health and livelihood to the extent possible.]
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« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2013, 09:37:23 PM »

Not on my watch.
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« Reply #24 on: July 18, 2013, 10:17:25 PM »

20 weeks falls well within my window of what I consider the acceptable range of where to place the dividing line.  The absolute earliest for me is 10 weeks when the embryo is developed enough to be called a fetus and the absolute latest would be viability (roughly 24 weeks on average). 

As afleitch pointed out, if fetal development is your measure then a set number of weeks is not great as not all pregnancies develop at the same rate.  Time based limits are popular because they are easy to decide yes or no.  If the idea is to allow elective abortions for all pregnancies that have definitely not yet reached the stage of being viable, then a test of 20 weeks or 500 grams, where failure to have crossed either threshold allows an elective abortion to proceed without needing to further consider the medical condition of either the woman or the child would be acceptable to me.
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