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Question: Do you support or oppose a ban on abortion after 20 weeks of pregnancy ?
#1
Yes (D)
 
#2
Yes (R)
 
#3
Yes (I/O)
 
#4
No (D)
 
#5
No (R)
 
#6
No (I/O)
 
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Total Voters: 69

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« Reply #50 on: July 22, 2013, 10:43:54 PM »

In my opinion the 20 week mark does not go far enough, but moving in the right direction. When there is an abortion takes away more than just a life, it takes away the potential for a future, good or bad. People like to talk about how the women would be robbed of choice and forced into a certain future, but what of the potential future for the unborn?

I know because I am male I clearly cannot go through the same things as women and see 100% the same as them, but as a human I just cannot see the justification in robbing a life of its future and potential.

If you're concerned with potential future, then condoms and birth control pills are just as much of a problem as abortion. LOL, even sexual abstinence deprives potential lifes of their future.

Indeed. This is a bad argument.

There's a difference between the potential for a future in an entity that exists and in an entity that does not exist.

However, there is no one definition that divides what exists from what does not exist and when there is a consensus, it is always arbitrary or offensive in one way or another.

Do you find abortion offensive?
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« Reply #51 on: July 22, 2013, 10:50:59 PM »

In my opinion the 20 week mark does not go far enough, but moving in the right direction. When there is an abortion takes away more than just a life, it takes away the potential for a future, good or bad. People like to talk about how the women would be robbed of choice and forced into a certain future, but what of the potential future for the unborn?

I know because I am male I clearly cannot go through the same things as women and see 100% the same as them, but as a human I just cannot see the justification in robbing a life of its future and potential.

If you're concerned with potential future, then condoms and birth control pills are just as much of a problem as abortion. LOL, even sexual abstinence deprives potential lifes of their future.

Indeed. This is a bad argument.

There's a difference between the potential for a future in an entity that exists and in an entity that does not exist.

However, there is no one definition that divides what exists from what does not exist and when there is a consensus, it is always arbitrary or offensive in one way or another.

Huh?  I exist - is that statement arbitrary and offensive?  A fetus either exists or does not.  If it does, it exists as a particular and not just an abstraction, and so has a potential for a future as a specific individual.
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« Reply #52 on: July 22, 2013, 11:19:42 PM »

In my opinion the 20 week mark does not go far enough, but moving in the right direction. When there is an abortion takes away more than just a life, it takes away the potential for a future, good or bad. People like to talk about how the women would be robbed of choice and forced into a certain future, but what of the potential future for the unborn?

I know because I am male I clearly cannot go through the same things as women and see 100% the same as them, but as a human I just cannot see the justification in robbing a life of its future and potential.

If you're concerned with potential future, then condoms and birth control pills are just as much of a problem as abortion. LOL, even sexual abstinence deprives potential lifes of their future.

Indeed. This is a bad argument.

There's a difference between the potential for a future in an entity that exists and in an entity that does not exist.

However, there is no one definition that divides what exists from what does not exist and when there is a consensus, it is always arbitrary or offensive in one way or another.

Huh?  I exist - is that statement arbitrary and offensive?  A fetus either exists or does not.  If it does, it exists as a particular and not just an abstraction, and so has a potential for a future as a specific individual.

But what makes one exist?

In my opinion the 20 week mark does not go far enough, but moving in the right direction. When there is an abortion takes away more than just a life, it takes away the potential for a future, good or bad. People like to talk about how the women would be robbed of choice and forced into a certain future, but what of the potential future for the unborn?

I know because I am male I clearly cannot go through the same things as women and see 100% the same as them, but as a human I just cannot see the justification in robbing a life of its future and potential.

If you're concerned with potential future, then condoms and birth control pills are just as much of a problem as abortion. LOL, even sexual abstinence deprives potential lifes of their future.

Indeed. This is a bad argument.

There's a difference between the potential for a future in an entity that exists and in an entity that does not exist.

However, there is no one definition that divides what exists from what does not exist and when there is a consensus, it is always arbitrary or offensive in one way or another.

Do you find abortion offensive?

That's like me asking you if you find anything else offensive out of the blue. Do you find opebo offensive?
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« Reply #53 on: July 22, 2013, 11:49:28 PM »

In my opinion the 20 week mark does not go far enough, but moving in the right direction. When there is an abortion takes away more than just a life, it takes away the potential for a future, good or bad. People like to talk about how the women would be robbed of choice and forced into a certain future, but what of the potential future for the unborn?

I know because I am male I clearly cannot go through the same things as women and see 100% the same as them, but as a human I just cannot see the justification in robbing a life of its future and potential.

If you're concerned with potential future, then condoms and birth control pills are just as much of a problem as abortion. LOL, even sexual abstinence deprives potential lifes of their future.

Indeed. This is a bad argument.

There's a difference between the potential for a future in an entity that exists and in an entity that does not exist.

However, there is no one definition that divides what exists from what does not exist and when there is a consensus, it is always arbitrary or offensive in one way or another.

Huh?  I exist - is that statement arbitrary and offensive?  A fetus either exists or does not.  If it does, it exists as a particular and not just an abstraction, and so has a potential for a future as a specific individual.

But what makes one exist?

In my opinion the 20 week mark does not go far enough, but moving in the right direction. When there is an abortion takes away more than just a life, it takes away the potential for a future, good or bad. People like to talk about how the women would be robbed of choice and forced into a certain future, but what of the potential future for the unborn?

I know because I am male I clearly cannot go through the same things as women and see 100% the same as them, but as a human I just cannot see the justification in robbing a life of its future and potential.

If you're concerned with potential future, then condoms and birth control pills are just as much of a problem as abortion. LOL, even sexual abstinence deprives potential lifes of their future.

Indeed. This is a bad argument.

There's a difference between the potential for a future in an entity that exists and in an entity that does not exist.

However, there is no one definition that divides what exists from what does not exist and when there is a consensus, it is always arbitrary or offensive in one way or another.

Do you find abortion offensive?

That's like me asking you if you find anything else offensive out of the blue. Do you find opebo offensive?

No but you randomly said giving a definition of existence is offensive. Aside from it opening up a huge can of worms for a philosophical debate, it doesn't sound as offensive as ending one's right to life. My question was not meant to come across as random.
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« Reply #54 on: July 23, 2013, 12:32:57 AM »

In my opinion the 20 week mark does not go far enough, but moving in the right direction. When there is an abortion takes away more than just a life, it takes away the potential for a future, good or bad. People like to talk about how the women would be robbed of choice and forced into a certain future, but what of the potential future for the unborn?

I know because I am male I clearly cannot go through the same things as women and see 100% the same as them, but as a human I just cannot see the justification in robbing a life of its future and potential.

If you're concerned with potential future, then condoms and birth control pills are just as much of a problem as abortion. LOL, even sexual abstinence deprives potential lifes of their future.

Indeed. This is a bad argument.

There's a difference between the potential for a future in an entity that exists and in an entity that does not exist.

However, there is no one definition that divides what exists from what does not exist and when there is a consensus, it is always arbitrary or offensive in one way or another.

Huh?  I exist - is that statement arbitrary and offensive?  A fetus either exists or does not.  If it does, it exists as a particular and not just an abstraction, and so has a potential for a future as a specific individual.

But what makes one exist?


the sperm and the egg met up and do a dance wherein they combine - that's usually how it works.   I guess I can't rule out the preexistence of souls if that's what you're getting at, but I never understood how that's supposed to work. 
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