A poll on gay marriage

[PJ]

3 days

[TDAS04]

Support.  I am gay, and although I do not want to get married, the government has no business in telling me that I cannot.

[Grumpier Than Thou]

I absolutely support gay marriage because I'm not a bigot.

[RedSLC]

Support.

[Del Tachi]

Oppose. 

[PJ]

Oppose. 

Any reasons you'd like to offer as to why you oppose equal rights?

[Supersonic]

I support, more from a 'strengthening of marriage' perspective.

It's not that high on the list of priorities though.

[Consciously Unconscious]

What's gay marriage? 

[barfbag]

I'd like to see it legalized state by state, but leave it up to the states.

[DC Al Fine]

Personally: Oppose

Politically: The government has long abandoned marriage in any meaningful sense of the term. I'd prefer they call all state "marriages" civil unions. I'm largely indifferent to whether homosexuals get in on state marriages, but I'd gladly accept gay marriage in exchange for divorce or abortion restrictions.

[Goldwater]

Support

Personally: Oppose

Politically: The government has long abandoned marriage in any meaningful sense of the term. I'd prefer they call all state "marriages" civil unions. I'm largely indifferent to whether homosexuals get in on state marriages, but I'd gladly accept gay marriage in exchange for divorce or abortion restrictions.

That would be a horrible idea...

[bedstuy]

Personally: Oppose

Politically: The government has long abandoned marriage in any meaningful sense of the term. I'd prefer they call all state "marriages" civil unions. I'm largely indifferent to whether homosexuals get in on state marriages, but I'd gladly accept gay marriage in exchange for divorce or abortion restrictions.

What does it mean to personally oppose gay marriage?

Does it mean you will not marry a person of your same sex?  Does it mean you won't buy your gay friend a new blender if they choose to get married?  Or do you just want to express your dislike of gay people?

[Del Tachi]

Oppose. 

Any reasons you'd like to offer as to why you oppose equal rights?

I have failed to encounter any compelling arguments as to why it should be legalized.  Therefore, I see no reason to change the status-quo. 

[PJ]

Oppose. 

Any reasons you'd like to offer as to why you oppose equal rights?

I have failed to encounter any compelling arguments as to why it should be legalized.  Therefore, I see no reason to change the status-quo. 

Fail to allow gay marriage is discrimination. Even if you don't believe in their lifestyle, how could you be against giving people who love each other the mutual benefits of marriage?

[TDAS04]

Oppose. 

Any reasons you'd like to offer as to why you oppose equal rights?

I have failed to encounter any compelling arguments as to why it should be legalized.  Therefore, I see no reason to change the status-quo. 

There certainly is no compelling (reasonable, secular) argument not to legalize it.  Therefore it should be legalized.  Conservatives talk a lot about "freedom", but it seems that they only mean freedom for "normal" people.

There are compelling reasons to legalize SSM.  One is reducing bullying and suicide, and no, that is not farfetched.  Bullying can lead to suicide, and suicide is common among people who believe that society hates them.  Fair laws alone cannot erase that, but they are vital first steps.  Certainly, adult politicians shouting "gay people are bad...we need to protect society from them fa**ots" does not help to alleviate problems with bullying and suicide.

[Dr. Cynic]

Oppose. 

Any reasons you'd like to offer as to why you oppose equal rights?

I have failed to encounter any compelling arguments as to why it should be legalized.  Therefore, I see no reason to change the status-quo. 

You mean you just don't like the idea of two people having gay sex and so you latched onto the status-quo argument like a leech because it gave you an out?

In fact, I feel the opposite. I've never encountered a good argument against allowing homosexuals to marry each other.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Oppose. 

Any reasons you'd like to offer as to why you oppose equal rights?

I have failed to encounter any compelling arguments as to why it should be legalized.  Therefore, I see no reason to change the status-quo. 

How about gay people want it and it's none of your business to say they can't have it?

[Del Tachi]

Discrimination can only occur when a group of people is being denied a right that is currently being extended to others.

Currently, there is no right to homosexual marriage.  There is only a right to heterosexual marriage.  The right to heterosexual marriage is extended to all people in the United States equally, including homosexuals.  Ergo, no discrimination is taking place. 

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Discrimination can only occur when a group of people is being denied a right that is currently being extended to others.

Currently, there is no right to homosexual marriage.  There is only a right to heterosexual marriage.  The right to heterosexual marriage is extended to all people in the United States equally, including homosexuals.  Ergo, no discrimination is taking place. 

That's deranged circular logic that I've heard a few conservatives use to get out of it.

[Ban my account ffs!]

Discrimination can only occur when a group of people is being denied a right that is currently being extended to others.

Currently, there is no right to homosexual marriage.  There is only a right to heterosexual marriage.  The right to heterosexual marriage is extended to all people in the United States equally, including homosexuals.  Ergo, no discrimination is taking place.  

Yeah!  Just like the way banning interracial marriage wasn't discrimination because blacks were still free to marry blacks and whites were free to marry whites!  

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Plus I'm pretty sure marriage is not an enumerated right, let alone specifying who can marry- I thought that was the logic (if I dare refer to it as that) for the Federal marriage amendment.

[barfbag]

Discrimination can only occur when a group of people is being denied a right that is currently being extended to others.

Currently, there is no right to homosexual marriage.  There is only a right to heterosexual marriage.  The right to heterosexual marriage is extended to all people in the United States equally, including homosexuals.  Ergo, no discrimination is taking place.  

Yeah!  Just like the way banning interracial marriage wasn't discrimination because blacks were still free to marry blacks and whites were free to marry whites!  

When was interracial marriage illegal?

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Discrimination can only occur when a group of people is being denied a right that is currently being extended to others.

Currently, there is no right to homosexual marriage.  There is only a right to heterosexual marriage.  The right to heterosexual marriage is extended to all people in the United States equally, including homosexuals.  Ergo, no discrimination is taking place.  

Yeah!  Just like the way banning interracial marriage wasn't discrimination because blacks were still free to marry blacks and whites were free to marry whites!  

When was interracial marriage illegal?

I think where was a better question...

[barfbag]

Discrimination can only occur when a group of people is being denied a right that is currently being extended to others.

Currently, there is no right to homosexual marriage.  There is only a right to heterosexual marriage.  The right to heterosexual marriage is extended to all people in the United States equally, including homosexuals.  Ergo, no discrimination is taking place.  

Yeah!  Just like the way banning interracial marriage wasn't discrimination because blacks were still free to marry blacks and whites were free to marry whites!  

When was interracial marriage illegal?

I think where was a better question...

I see the argument against gay marriage as people are always free to marry the opposite gender. Therefore, gay marriage is like inventing the square wheel because it's a new invention. Furthermore, a marriage is a doorway to growing our population which is something gay marriage cannot do within itself. This is a good argument but I believe gays should have the right to marry each other if it's what they really want. However, I know gays who don't want anything to do with marriage because to them it's not part of the gay culture. Some gays don't want to be part of the straight culture anymore than straight people want to be part of the gay culture.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Let's be honest - people don't need marriage to breed.

Marriage has evolved constantly depending on the society they're within. Just as straight people don't have to marry, despite their having the right to, gay people will have the right to decide not to marry.

I'm being honest when I say, I understand those who oppose gay marriage, I just don't agree with any of the reasons outlined.