Drug Debate

[barfbag]

Anti-drug and anti-gang units to be placed in the state police.
Place decongestants behind counter to slow meth production.
Restrict meth ingredients to reduce meth labs.
Tougher and increased penalties for drug dealers.
Mandatory minimum sentences for career drug dealers. (repeat offenders)
Establish drug courts like we have divorce and D.U.I. courts.
Provide more substance abuse treatments for drug offenders.
Illegal drugs are not an acceptable part of our society.
More federal funding for drug war to teach kids about illegal drugs as early as 3rd grade.
Legalize marijuana for recreational and medicinal purposes.
Legalizing marijuana would put pot dealers out of business.
Regulate marijuana like we do alcohol.
Apply D.U.I. laws to marijuana.
Work with Phillip Morris to legalize and regulate marijuana.
Phillip Morris won't let marijuana become legalized because the cigarette industry would suffer.
Marijuana can be a gateway drug AWAY FROM harder drugs such as heroin and meth.



What do you all think of legalizing marijuana and having tougher penalties for drug dealers?

[opebo]

free drugs for everybody

[barfbag]

free drugs for everybody

Don't run for president with that idea. What does Opebo stand for?

[opebo]

free drugs for everybody

Don't run for president with that idea. What does Opebo stand for?

I stand for opebo.

[barfbag]

free drugs for everybody

Don't run for president with that idea. What does Opebo stand for?

I stand for opebo.

I meant what is Opebo an acronym?

[PJ]

free drugs for everybody

Don't run for president with that idea. What does Opebo stand for?

I stand for opebo.

I meant what is Opebo an acronym?

It's Latin for, "you're wrong about drugs, Barfbag."

[Kitteh]

free drugs for everybody

[barfbag]

free drugs for everybody

Don't run for president with that idea. What does Opebo stand for?

I stand for opebo.

I meant what is Opebo an acronym?

It's Latin for, "you're wrong about drugs, Barfbag."

You don't like my drug ideas?

[barfbag]

free drugs for everybody

You want people who have more money than you to pay for your drugs by mandate of the government?

[Oldiesfreak1854]

Anti-drug and anti-gang units to be placed in the state police.
Yes, probably.

Place decongestants behind counter to slow meth production.
Yes.

Restrict meth ingredients to reduce meth labs.
Yes.

Tougher and increased penalties for drug dealers.
Yes.

Mandatory minimum sentences for career drug dealers. (repeat offenders)
Yes.

Establish drug courts like we have divorce and D.U.I. courts.
Yes, probably.

Provide more substance abuse treatments for drug offenders.
Yes.

Illegal drugs are not an acceptable part of our society.
Yes.

More federal funding for drug war to teach kids about illegal drugs as early as 3rd grade.
Yes.

Legalize marijuana for recreational and medicinal purposes.
No.

Legalizing marijuana would put pot dealers out of business.
No, of course not, it just changes their legal status.

Regulate marijuana like we do alcohol.


Apply D.U.I. laws to marijuana.
No.

Work with Phillip Morris to legalize and regulate marijuana.
No.  Same goes for R.J. Reynolds, Lorillard, American Tobacco, etc.

Phillip Morris won't let marijuana become legalized because the cigarette industry would suffer.
I wouldn't be surprised.

Marijuana can be a gateway drug AWAY FROM harder drugs such as heroin and meth.
Maybe, but it's usually the other way around.

[Supersonic]

Anti-drug and anti-gang units to be placed in the state police.
Yes

Place decongestants behind counter to slow meth production.
Yes.

Restrict meth ingredients to reduce meth labs.
Yes.

Tougher and increased penalties for drug dealers.
Yes.

Mandatory minimum sentences for career drug dealers. (repeat offenders)
Yes.

Establish drug courts like we have divorce and D.U.I. courts.
Neutral

Provide more substance abuse treatments for drug offenders.
Yes.

Illegal drugs are not an acceptable part of our society.
Yes.

More federal funding for drug war to teach kids about illegal drugs as early as 3rd grade.
Yes.

Legalize marijuana for recreational and medicinal purposes.
No.

Legalizing marijuana would put pot dealers out of business.
No.

Regulate marijuana like we do alcohol.
No

Apply D.U.I. laws to marijuana.
No.

Work with Phillip Morris to legalize and regulate marijuana.
lolno

Phillip Morris won't let marijuana become legalized because the cigarette industry would suffer.
I wouldn't be surprised.

Marijuana can be a gateway drug AWAY FROM harder drugs such as heroin and meth.
Not sure.

[SPC]

Anti-drug and anti-gang units to be placed in the state police.
Place decongestants behind counter to slow meth production.
Restrict meth ingredients to reduce meth labs.
Tougher and increased penalties for drug dealers.
Mandatory minimum sentences for career drug dealers. (repeat offenders)
Establish drug courts like we have divorce and D.U.I. courts.
Provide more substance abuse treatments for drug offenders.
Illegal drugs are not an acceptable part of our society.
More federal funding for drug war to teach kids about illegal drugs as early as 3rd grade.
Legalize marijuana for recreational and medicinal purposes.
Legalizing marijuana would put pot dealers out of business.
Regulate marijuana like we do alcohol.
Apply D.U.I. laws to marijuana.
Work with Phillip Morris to legalize and regulate marijuana.
Phillip Morris won't let marijuana become legalized because the cigarette industry would suffer.
Marijuana can be a gateway drug AWAY FROM harder drugs such as heroin and meth.



What do you all think of legalizing marijuana and having tougher penalties for drug dealers?

Agree Disagree

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

Anti-drug and anti-gang units to be placed in the state police.
No.

Place decongestants behind counter to slow meth production.
No.

Restrict meth ingredients to reduce meth labs.
Depends what kind of ingredients.

Tougher and increased penalties for drug dealers.
Yes.

Mandatory minimum sentences for career drug dealers. (repeat offenders)
Yes.

Establish drug courts like we have divorce and D.U.I. courts.
No.

Provide more substance abuse treatments for drug offenders.
Yes.

Illegal drugs are not an acceptable part of our society.
Depends what illegal drugs.

More federal funding for drug war to teach kids about illegal drugs as early as 3rd grade.
If they're going to teach kids propaganda instead of hard facts, then no.

Legalize marijuana for recreational and medicinal purposes.
Yes!

Legalizing marijuana would put pot dealers out of business.
Yes, that is why they're fighting legalization efforts.

Regulate marijuana like we do alcohol.
Yes.

Apply D.U.I. laws to marijuana.
Yes.

Work with Phillip Morris to legalize and regulate marijuana.
...Sure?

Phillip Morris won't let marijuana become legalized because the cigarette industry would suffer.
Er, um, okay.

Marijuana can be a gateway drug AWAY FROM harder drugs such as heroin and meth.
Not sure, but if it is, that's just another reason to legalize it.

[Kitteh]

free drugs for everybody

You want people who have more money than you to pay for your drugs by mandate of the government?

Yes.

[Kitteh]

Okay, if we're being (semi) serious now,

Anti-drug and anti-gang units to be placed in the state police.
What would that do that the current cops don't other than waste more money on the already bloated police state?

Place decongestants behind counter to slow meth production.
Yeah, meth is bad, w/e, but then where would we get our DXM?

Restrict meth ingredients to reduce meth labs.
Be more specific.

Tougher and increased penalties for drug dealers.
Put more people in prison when we already have more than any other nation in the world? Nope.

Mandatory minimum sentences for career drug dealers. (repeat offenders)
Mandatory minimum sentences are one of the dumbest ideas in politics today, which is really saying something. But leaving that aside, many states already have mandatory minimums for first time offenders, not only repeat ones.

Establish drug courts like we have divorce and D.U.I. courts.
What would this do besides waste money?

Provide more substance abuse treatments for drug offenders.
100% agree

Illegal drugs are not an acceptable part of our society.
lol

More federal funding for drug war to teach kids about illegal drugs as early as 3rd grade.
Yeah, because this has always been such an effective drug policy.

Legalize marijuana for recreational and medicinal purposes.
Yes

Legalizing marijuana would put pot dealers out of business.
Define "pot dealers". But yeah, It'd hit organized crime.

Regulate marijuana like we do alcohol.
More or less

Apply D.U.I. laws to marijuana.
Sure

Work with Phillip Morris to legalize and regulate marijuana.
wat

Phillip Morris won't let marijuana become legalized because the cigarette industry would suffer.
cool story bro

Marijuana can be a gateway drug AWAY FROM harder drugs such as heroin and meth.
Probably. Especially with good education for kids, i.e. "These drugs are not really that bad, these other ones definitely are, so if you do use them be smart about it."

What do you all think of legalizing marijuana and having tougher penalties for drug dealers?
Woooooo longer prison sentences. F**k yeah, 'murica, land of the supermax.

[barfbag]

Okay, if we're being (semi) serious now,

Anti-drug and anti-gang units to be placed in the state police.
What would that do that the current cops don't other than waste more money on the already bloated police state?

Place decongestants behind counter to slow meth production.
Yeah, meth is bad, w/e, but then where would we get our DXM?

Restrict meth ingredients to reduce meth labs.
Be more specific.

Tougher and increased penalties for drug dealers.
Put more people in prison when we already have more than any other nation in the world? Nope.

Mandatory minimum sentences for career drug dealers. (repeat offenders)
Mandatory minimum sentences are one of the dumbest ideas in politics today, which is really saying something. But leaving that aside, many states already have mandatory minimums for first time offenders, not only repeat ones.

Establish drug courts like we have divorce and D.U.I. courts.
What would this do besides waste money?

Provide more substance abuse treatments for drug offenders.
100% agree

Illegal drugs are not an acceptable part of our society.
lol

More federal funding for drug war to teach kids about illegal drugs as early as 3rd grade.
Yeah, because this has always been such an effective drug policy.

Legalize marijuana for recreational and medicinal purposes.
Yes

Legalizing marijuana would put pot dealers out of business.
Define "pot dealers". But yeah, It'd hit organized crime.

Regulate marijuana like we do alcohol.
More or less

Apply D.U.I. laws to marijuana.
Sure

Work with Phillip Morris to legalize and regulate marijuana.
wat

Phillip Morris won't let marijuana become legalized because the cigarette industry would suffer.
cool story bro

Marijuana can be a gateway drug AWAY FROM harder drugs such as heroin and meth.
Probably. Especially with good education for kids, i.e. "These drugs are not really that bad, these other ones definitely are, so if you do use them be smart about it."

What do you all think of legalizing marijuana and having tougher penalties for drug dealers?
Woooooo longer prison sentences. F**k yeah, 'murica, land of the supermax.

Glad you were semi-serious.

[Oak Hills]

Anti-drug and anti-gang units to be placed in the state police.

I'm pretty those already exist in most places, personally undecided.

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Agree.

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To the point where it's practical, yes.

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No, and it should be made easier for former low-level drug dealers to reform and enter the legitimate workforce.

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Absolutely not.

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Yes, and I believe we already have these in Tennessee.

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Yes, and this should should be the centrepiece of any drug policy.

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Wholeheartedly agree.

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Probably a bad idea, and drug education should be looked at and reformed.

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Agree, but in the case of the former only because prohibition has proven impractical.

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As others have said, it would probably reduce the power of organised crime.

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More or less.

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Agreed.

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I don't see why we should give tobacco companies any influence.

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Doubt it.

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I'm not up on the research about this, so don't know.

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Yes to the former, no to the latter.

Also, we most certainly should stop putting people in jail for simple possession.

[barfbag]

Anti-drug and anti-gang units to be placed in the state police.

I'm pretty those already exist in most places, personally undecided.

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Agree.

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To the point where it's practical, yes.

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No, and it should be made easier for former low-level drug dealers to reform and enter the legitimate workforce.

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Absolutely not.

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Yes, and I believe we already have these in Tennessee.

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Yes, and this should should be the centrepiece of any drug policy.

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Wholeheartedly agree.

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Probably a bad idea, and drug education should be looked at and reformed.

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Agree, but in the case of the former only because prohibition has proven impractical.

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As others have said, it would probably reduce the power of organised crime.

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More or less.

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Agreed.

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I don't see why we should give tobacco companies any influence.

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Doubt it.

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I'm not up on the research about this, so don't know.

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Yes to the former, no to the latter.

Also, we most certainly should stop putting people in jail for simple possession.

The reason Phillip Morris almost has to be involved is because they'll never help politicians get elected financially if they legalize marijuana. I'm not saying it's right but in the real world unless we start capping how much federal candidates can raise and spend or ban corporate donations all together, Phillip Morris will continue to have a political hand in legalization. I'm familiar with them as their headquarters is within a couple hours.

Drug education does need to be reformed. I don't think "Just Say No" is sound enough. It gives the impression after a certain age for kids to think they're being lied to. A lot of kids are told by parents and teachers that if they try a joint of marijuana, then they could die from it. What eventually happens is that they do try smoking pot and nothing bad happens at all. This results in them not trusting anything adults say about drugs. A proper message would be teaching that marijuana probably won't kill you, but can ruin your life if you let it become a habit. Maybe stop using "Just Say No" with something else after Jr. High.

[TNF]

Anti-drug and anti-gang units to be placed in the state police.
No, remove police/FBI/law enforcement in general from anything having to do with drugs.

Place decongestants behind counter to slow meth production.
No.

Restrict meth ingredients to reduce meth labs.
Better idea: restrict market forces, raise wages, and expand union membership to reduce meth labs.

Tougher and increased penalties for drug dealers.
No, ignore drug dealers.

Mandatory minimum sentences for career drug dealers. (repeat offenders)
Repeal all laws that create mandatory minimum sentences.

Establish drug courts like we have divorce and D.U.I. courts.
No. Stop punishing addicts.

Provide more substance abuse treatments for drug offenders.
Yes, obviously.

Illegal drugs are not an acceptable part of our society.
lol

More federal funding for drug war to teach kids about illegal drugs as early as 3rd grade.
End all federal drug war funding, stop lying to kids, teach them about drugs in an accurate manner, allow them to grow up and decide for themselves whether or not they want to use these substances.

Legalize marijuana for recreational and medicinal purposes.
Yes, and MDMA, LSD, Psilocybin mushrooms, diluted opioids, dmt, etc. Most drugs should be legal.

Legalizing marijuana would put pot dealers out of business.
Absolutely would.

Regulate marijuana like we do alcohol.
No, set the legal purchase age for both at 16.

Apply D.U.I. laws to marijuana.
Sure.

Work with Phillip Morris to legalize and regulate marijuana.
lol no. Expropriate Philip Morris and put all its profits towards smoking cessation programs.

Phillip Morris won't let marijuana become legalized because the cigarette industry would suffer.
Uh, duh?

Marijuana can be a gateway drug AWAY FROM harder drugs such as heroin and meth.
There's no such thing as gateway drugs, bro

[AkSaber]

Anti-drug and anti-gang units to be placed in the state police.
No, disband them altogether.

Place decongestants behind counter to slow meth production.
No, not everyone who buys cold medicine is a drug manufacturer.

Restrict meth ingredients to reduce meth labs.
Ridiculous. Why not just put the whole store behind a counter?! That's what things are coming to.

Tougher and increased penalties for drug dealers.
No, it's been proven tougher sentences lead to higher recidivism and offending rates.

Mandatory minimum sentences for career drug dealers. (repeat offenders)
No, minimum sentences clog prisons with non-violent offenders.

Establish drug courts like we have divorce and D.U.I. courts.
The court system is overloaded already.

Provide more substance abuse treatments for drug offenders.
Yes, substance abuse and job skill classes actually lower recidivism and offending rates.

Illegal drugs are not an acceptable part of our society.
A police state is an unacceptable part of our society.

More federal funding for drug war to teach kids about illegal drugs as early as 3rd grade.
We've been doing this for over 40 years. More money won't make it work.

Legalize marijuana for recreational and medicinal purposes.
Of course!

Legalizing marijuana would put pot dealers out of business.
No it wouldn't. It would turn them into honest businessmen who generate legitimate tax revenue.

Regulate marijuana like we do alcohol.
That is the goal, yes.

Apply D.U.I. laws to marijuana.
No, marijuana and alcohol are two different drugs.

Work with Phillip Morris to legalize and regulate marijuana.
Why the hell do we need their permission?

Phillip Morris won't let marijuana become legalized because the cigarette industry would suffer.
Probably true. DuPont won't either.

Marijuana can be a gateway drug AWAY FROM harder drugs such as heroin and meth.
Yes

[barfbag]

Anti-drug and anti-gang units to be placed in the state police.
No, disband them altogether.

Place decongestants behind counter to slow meth production.
No, not everyone who buys cold medicine is a drug manufacturer.

Restrict meth ingredients to reduce meth labs.
Ridiculous. Why not just put the whole store behind a counter?! That's what things are coming to.

Tougher and increased penalties for drug dealers.
No, it's been proven tougher sentences lead to higher recidivism and offending rates.

Mandatory minimum sentences for career drug dealers. (repeat offenders)
No, minimum sentences clog prisons with non-violent offenders.

Establish drug courts like we have divorce and D.U.I. courts.
The court system is overloaded already.

Provide more substance abuse treatments for drug offenders.
Yes, substance abuse and job skill classes actually lower recidivism and offending rates.

Illegal drugs are not an acceptable part of our society.
A police state is an unacceptable part of our society.

More federal funding for drug war to teach kids about illegal drugs as early as 3rd grade.
We've been doing this for over 40 years. More money won't make it work.

Legalize marijuana for recreational and medicinal purposes.
Of course!

Legalizing marijuana would put pot dealers out of business.
No it wouldn't. It would turn them into honest businessmen who generate legitimate tax revenue.

Regulate marijuana like we do alcohol.
That is the goal, yes.

Apply D.U.I. laws to marijuana.
No, marijuana and alcohol are two different drugs.

Work with Phillip Morris to legalize and regulate marijuana.
Why the hell do we need their permission?

Phillip Morris won't let marijuana become legalized because the cigarette industry would suffer.
Probably true. DuPont won't either.

Marijuana can be a gateway drug AWAY FROM harder drugs such as heroin and meth.
Yes

Thank you for participating. The pot dealers I referred to are your typical gangsters from the streets not businesses producing a product for profit. Those who deal pot now would no longer be needed for their marijuana and that's why these very individuals who deal marijuana are so against legalizing it.

[Pessimistic Antineutrino]

Anti-drug and anti-gang units to be placed in the state police.
Yes.

Place decongestants behind counter to slow meth production.
Yes.

Restrict meth ingredients to reduce meth labs.
Depends of the specific ingredient.

Tougher and increased penalties for drug dealers.
No, it's not necessary, it anything penalties should be lessened.

Mandatory minimum sentences for career drug dealers. (repeat offenders)
Definitely not.

Establish drug courts like we have divorce and D.U.I. courts.
Because that's so useful, right? No.

Provide more substance abuse treatments for drug offenders.
Of course. Don't, penalize addicts, actually help them break addiction.

Illegal drugs are not an acceptable part of our society.
As is that wasn't clear already?

More federal funding for drug war to teach kids about illegal drugs as early as 3rd grade.
Sure, because more spending on a near futile cause is just what we need to get this nation out of debt. No.

Legalize marijuana for recreational and medicinal purposes.
I don't see why not.

Legalizing marijuana would put pot dealers out of business.
I don't think so, they would this move their businesses from the alleys to the streets.

Regulate marijuana like we do alcohol.
Of course.

Apply D.U.I. laws to marijuana.
Definitely.

Work with Phillip Morris to legalize and regulate marijuana.
Why should we?

Phillip Morris won't let marijuana become legalized because the cigarette industry would suffer.
Most likely the case.

Marijuana can be a gateway drug AWAY FROM harder drugs such as heroin and meth.
Not sure, but I would guess that it leaders the user towards harder drugs, not away.

[politicallefty]

Anti-drug and anti-gang units to be placed in the state police.
No. Anti-drug units should be disbanded apart from public safety issues (such as meth labs).

Place decongestants behind counter to slow meth production.
No.

Restrict meth ingredients to reduce meth labs.
No.

Tougher and increased penalties for drug dealers.
Only with respect to dealing to minors.

Mandatory minimum sentences for career drug dealers. (repeat offenders)
See above, though I'm not really a fan of mandatory minimums.

Establish drug courts like we have divorce and D.U.I. courts.
No.

Provide more substance abuse treatments for drug offenders.
Yes. Those that abuse drugs should be treated in the healthcare system, not in the criminal justice system.

Illegal drugs are not an acceptable part of our society.
It will be a part of society no matter what you or I think.

More federal funding for drug war to teach kids about illegal drugs as early as 3rd grade.
No, the drug war needs to end immediately. It has been a complete failure.

Legalize marijuana for recreational and medicinal purposes.
Yes, and I would legalize a further wide array of currently illegal drugs.

Legalizing marijuana would put pot dealers out of business.
Doubtful. They could very well establish a legal business.

Regulate marijuana like we do alcohol.
Yes, provided the legal age is set at 18 across the board.

Apply D.U.I. laws to marijuana.
Yes, but I think it would require its own separate framework.

Work with Phillip Morris to legalize and regulate marijuana.
No. If Big Tobacco wants to get into the marijuana business, they can do so on their own.

Phillip Morris won't let marijuana become legalized because the cigarette industry would suffer.
I don't know. The cigarette industry is already dying a slow death without marijuana legalization.

Marijuana can be a gateway drug AWAY FROM harder drugs such as heroin and meth.
Probably. It's absurd that the federal government basically equates marijuana with heorion and meth.

What do you all think of legalizing marijuana and having tougher penalties for drug dealers?
I strongly support the former and would only support the latter with respect to dealing to minors.