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Zuza
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« on: July 31, 2013, 06:58:23 AM »

Let's not invent things about the Orthodox church. Yes, a lot of Russians self-identify as Orthodox these days - but most of them rarely so much as see a priest, still less listen to what one says. Russian "religiosity" is, mostly, of rather mystical new-agey type - they'd pretty much believe in anything that appears to be a religion. Tradition is, mostly, followed in its breach. Though, of course, the STATE, such as it is, is getting increasingly identified with the Russian Orthodox Church.  And the Church is actively using this identification to attack all sort of competition that has emerged.
Yes, it's true. An overwhelming majority of Russians are Orthodox Christians now - but in name only.
Anyway, no need to invent anything new. Russia has always been homophobic and illiberal. Under communism, male homosexuality (literally, "men lying with men", in the language of the Communist criminal code) was punishable with prison. At least, we are still not there - man lying with man by itself is not (yet?) punishable in the new Russia.
Homosexuality was illegal and usually punishable in the USA and many Western European and Latin American countries until 60s-70s, but things have changed dramatically in merely few decades. The interesting thing is that Russia, unlike others, still stays in the homophobic past.
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Zuza
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« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2013, 07:22:40 AM »

Huh... the few Americans of Russian descent I've met have actually all be quite socially liberal, and I've generally attributed it partially to the fact that communism left a relatively secular legacy in Russia. But it seems that as that legacy fades, Russia is going back to what it was before World War I... one of the most illiberal countries in Europe.
On some issues (such as abortion; though abortion never was a significant political issue) Russians are still fairly socially liberal. But on many (probably most) other issues Russians were socially conservative in Soviet times as well as currently. Religion isn't the only ground for homophobia, so secularism (Russian population is still low religious) isn't panacea for homophobia.
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Zuza
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« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2013, 07:29:35 AM »

Soviet Union, which wasn't as anti-theistic as it is commonly portrayed, since they realized that active persecution of the church would be a dumb political move
Soviet Union religious politics changed significantly from time to time, there were several anti-religious campaigns (the last one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USSR_anti-religious_campaign_(1970s–1990)).
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