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Mr. Illini
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« on: August 02, 2013, 01:13:49 AM »



Just wanted to see what you all thought of that.
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« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2013, 01:21:15 AM »

Wisconsin and Michigan should be flipped, Ohio State should be more liberal then Indiana and Michigan State should be more liberal then Illinois.
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« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2013, 01:30:11 AM »

Wisconsin and Michigan should be flipped, Ohio State should be more liberal then Indiana and Michigan State should be more liberal then Illinois.

I relied fairly heavily on online opinions by college sites. Just interested - why do you think MSU is more liberal than Illinois? I go to U of I and I'm interested to know what other people think of our politics.
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« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2013, 10:04:37 AM »

Wisconsin and Michigan should be flipped, Ohio State should be more liberal then Indiana and Michigan State should be more liberal then Illinois.

I relied fairly heavily on online opinions by college sites. Just interested - why do you think MSU is more liberal than Illinois? I go to U of I and I'm interested to know what other people think of our politics.

You're more of an engineering school than we are; engineers are less likely to be political and more likely to be libertarians if they are political.
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« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2013, 10:55:16 AM »

I'm brainstorming a similar chart for the SEC, but I'm not sure how to distinguish the 8-10 schools in a big clump slightlyright of center.
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« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2013, 11:33:05 AM »

How would Maryland and Rutgers fall in the spectrum?
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« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2013, 11:41:59 AM »

Wisconsin and Michigan should be flipped, Ohio State should be more liberal then Indiana and Michigan State should be more liberal then Illinois.

I relied fairly heavily on online opinions by college sites. Just interested - why do you think MSU is more liberal than Illinois? I go to U of I and I'm interested to know what other people think of our politics.

You're more of an engineering school than we are; engineers are less likely to be political and more likely to be libertarians if they are political.

You are right that UIUC is not very political. A lot of people that I know keep it to themselves. That said, I feel like people assume that UIUC is more conservative just because they immediately think of how it is in a rural area. I think that if you judged simply by public opinion and not necessarily how vocal people are, you would find UIUC to be one of the more liberal schools in the conference, if not right around the big pack labeled as simply "liberal."

One issue I have noticed that the school is especially liberal on is gay marriage. I realize most schools are liberal on this issue, but when the whole SCOTUS thing was going on I was a little shocked by how vocal people who were not very political became. Then I saw this map done by Facebook to gauge support for gay marriage by county and noticed that Champaign County is noticeably dark, with the only darker Big Ten counties being Dane County (UW) and Ann Arbor (UMich), and those are helped by extremely liberal areas that surround those schools.

http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Facebook-map-620x362.jpeg

So in sum, I think UIUC is way more liberal than people often give it credit for, especially on social issues.
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« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2013, 11:51:13 AM »

This one also.

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« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2013, 11:55:59 AM »


No Wisconsin?
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« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2013, 12:45:57 PM »


Given the percentage of youngs that support same-sex marriage, I assume this is relative as opposed to absolute.
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« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2013, 01:31:28 AM »


Surprise I'm guessing they are somewhere in between "open minded" and "very open minded."
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« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2013, 01:32:38 AM »


Given the percentage of youngs that support same-sex marriage, I assume this is relative as opposed to absolute.

The overwhelming support for the topic would explain why all but one school is on the left of the spectrum and why most are crowded on the far left edge.
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« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2013, 04:09:08 AM »

No Kentucky or Louisville?
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« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2013, 09:34:45 AM »

Please do one for the SEC!
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« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2013, 10:31:22 AM »


They're not Big Ten schools.
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« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2013, 11:36:23 AM »


However, you might add Maryland and Rutgers which become full members next year.
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« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2013, 11:51:04 AM »


I think he was mocking Gordon Gee.
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« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2013, 12:54:57 PM »

Did I mention Notre Dame?
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« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2013, 02:08:17 PM »
« Edited: August 03, 2013, 02:14:36 PM by Harry »

Here's my best guess at the SEC.  The main criteria I used were:

-- Racial demographics of the student body
-- How the university's county voted in 2008 and 2012 (low impact on schools like Vanderbilt and South Carolina)
-- How the under-30s in the state voted in 2008 and 2012 (if available)
-- Where schools appeared on general lists of "Most conservative schools" I found by Googling
-- Recent news events which affect perception
-- General gut feelings, perceptions, and stereotypes.



Thoughts?  Did I mispeg anyone?  Vanderbilt was almost completely a guess, since none of the above factors really apply much.

ETA:  I probably put Kentucky too far to the left.
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« Reply #19 on: August 03, 2013, 04:54:40 PM »

Here's my best guess at the SEC.  The main criteria I used were:

-- Racial demographics of the student body
-- How the university's county voted in 2008 and 2012 (low impact on schools like Vanderbilt and South Carolina)
-- How the under-30s in the state voted in 2008 and 2012 (if available)
-- Where schools appeared on general lists of "Most conservative schools" I found by Googling
-- Recent news events which affect perception
-- General gut feelings, perceptions, and stereotypes.



Thoughts?  Did I mispeg anyone?  Vanderbilt was almost completely a guess, since none of the above factors really apply much.

ETA:  I probably put Kentucky too far to the left.

I would put Georgia, Tennessee, Kentucky, South Carolina, LSU and Arkansas farther to the left. If you go into DRA you can see that most of these campuses are in the high 50's/low 60's in their support for Obama. Georgia should be right next to Florida.
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« Reply #20 on: August 03, 2013, 11:35:40 PM »

UGA student here! I would put UGA further to the left. There's a large conservative contingent here, especially among fraternities and sororities, but overall the campus is pretty liberal, at least for the south.

Look at Clarke county. It's very small and basically only encompasses UGA, downtown and the core of Athens. It's the only strong D county in the state that isn't majority minority, indicating a lot of liberals.

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« Reply #21 on: August 04, 2013, 07:02:54 AM »

I would put Georgia, Tennessee, Kentucky, South Carolina, LSU and Arkansas farther to the left. If you go into DRA you can see that most of these campuses are in the high 50's/low 60's in their support for Obama. Georgia should be right next to Florida.

I don't know about that.  This is Obama's under-30 percentage in each of the SEC states (2008):
61   Florida
59   Missouri
56   Mississippi
55   South Carolina
55   Tennessee
54   Texas
51   Kentucky
50   Alabama
49   Arkansas
48   Georgia
48   Louisiana

Remember that all 14 SEC universities are whiter and richer than the overall under-30 population in their states.  That's why UF and Mizzou are the only ones left of center, along with Georgia that I put based on anecdotal evidence.  And perhaps I should put it even more liberal.


Here's the % Obama got in each university's county (not including the state capitals):
62.77   Georgia
57.71   Florida
50.20   Mississippi State
50.17   Missouri
49.32   Kentucky
41.48   Ole Miss
40.68   Alabama
40.07   Arkansas
39.23   Auburn
34.43   Tennessee
31.23   Texas A&M

Obviously this isn't necessarily an indicator of much, since many students are still registered back at home, it does give an approximation of the universities' environment.

I can buy putting Georgia to the left for sure though.
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