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« on: August 04, 2013, 05:37:56 PM »

Because it is his Birthday...

Happy Birthday to the FF in the White House.
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H. Ross Peron
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« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2013, 05:52:37 PM »

Massive FF
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All Along The Watchtower
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« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2013, 05:54:22 PM »

Mixed, but lean FF.

Happy birthday.
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« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2013, 05:58:29 PM »

Murderer.
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« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2013, 06:00:27 PM »

I'm just like "Whatever, brah."
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Grumpier Than Thou
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« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2013, 07:02:16 PM »

FF. Not the best, but not the worst.
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« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2013, 07:03:44 PM »

No respect for civil liberties HP
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« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2013, 07:06:07 PM »

Bad.
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« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2013, 07:07:51 PM »


>is a social conservative
>accuses other people of having no respect for civil liberties
>mfw

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« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2013, 07:12:18 PM »

I don't like him, but he's not as bad as the Tea Party thinks he is.
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« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2013, 07:18:04 PM »

I don't like him, but he's not as bad as the Tea Party thinks he is.

This. Voted HP out of disapproval for his policies, but he himself seems OK.
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« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2013, 07:22:51 PM »


>is a social conservative
>accuses other people of having no respect for civil liberties
>mfw



The only issue DC Al Fine is a hardline so-con on is abortion.
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« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2013, 07:23:45 PM »
« Edited: August 04, 2013, 08:45:46 PM by Emperor SJoyce »


Spied on, disrupted, and generally cracked down on Occupy Wall Street in spite of Occupy not actually breaking any laws; has had absolutely no respect for the Fourth Amendment or the Constitution as a whole during his Presidency in spite of his background as a 'constitutional law professor', expanded the surveillance state, assassinated American citizens on his own supposed authority to do so without any constitutional logic backing that up
Continued the war in Afghanistan after the death of Osama bin Laden for no reason at all really; intervened in Libya and now in the process of intervening in Syria; waging a multi-front war in the Middle East without congressional oversight or approval, has positioned the United States as an anti-China player in the Pacific in spite of that country not actually doing anything to the United States, continuing the saber-rattling with Iran and North Korea

TNF's stuff (I've selected my favorite two) really sum it up here.
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« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2013, 07:41:37 PM »

Let's see what Barack Obama has accomplished while President...

>stimulus package that was by all accounts too small, loaded down with business tax cuts and tax credits for businesses with little to no aid for distressed or out of work Americans, no jobs programs to speak of
>'saved Detroit' by tearing up UAW contracts, pushing the Big Three to outsource production, still didn't actually save Detroit because the whole city is going under
>didn't say anything or do anything to stop bankers from reaping bonuses on the public teat; continued to bailout awful, no good bankers who crashed the global economy, appointed them to key positions of influence within his administration
>health care 'reform' that reinforced market logic and made the private health insurance industry into an actual parasite feeding off of the public while requiring the public to feed the parasite or face a fine, banned negotiating for lower drug prices, implemented a nonsensical tax on high end health plans, and really did little to address the needs of most Americans as far as health care is concerned
>spied on, disrupted, and generally cracked down on Occupy Wall Street in spite of Occupy not actually breaking any laws; has had absolutely no respect for the Fourth Amendment or the Constitution as a whole during his Presidency in spite of his background as a 'constitutional law professor', expanded the surveillance state, assassinated American citizens on his own supposed authority to do so without any constitutional logic backing that up
>continued the war in Afghanistan after the death of Osama bin Laden for no reason at all really; intervened in Libya and now in the process of intervening in Syria; waging a multi-front war in the Middle East without congressional oversight or approval, has positioned the United States as an anti-China player in the Pacific in spite of that country not actually doing anything to the United States, continuing the saber-rattling with Iran and North Korea
>stood by and watched as Republican Governors took on and successfully busted or beat back the labor movement, in spite of labor having basically elected him in 2008 and in 2012. Has done really nothing at all for labor, didn't even attempt to pass EFCA, proposed an inadequate increase in the minimum wage and then punted there too when Congress wouldn't pass it, has called for implemented what would amount to a massive cut in Social Security benefits and Medicare benefits
>completely lied about his position on trade to get into the White House; has not renegotiated NAFTA or even considered it while President, has only lukewarmly responded to Chinese predatory trade practices, signed free trade agreements with Korea (which will destroy more Auto jobs) and Columbia (which murders trade unionists), negotiating an even bigger, supersized version of NAFTA in total secrecy (Trans-Pacific Partnership)
>country has actually become far MORE unequal under Obama than it was under Bush, with now 93 cents out of every dollar going to the top 1% in spite of Obama's high minded rhetoric; he's also been completely f**king inept at working with Congress, just turns and runs at every opportunity


Yeah, what a 'liberal' this guy's been. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2013, 08:23:02 PM »

Hard for me to argue with TNF's post, to be honest.
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« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2013, 08:36:41 PM »

Huge FF
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« Reply #16 on: August 04, 2013, 08:47:33 PM »

I think he's honestly doing the best he can, so FF.
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« Reply #17 on: August 04, 2013, 08:49:24 PM »

A mediocre president.
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« Reply #18 on: August 05, 2013, 02:16:38 AM »
« Edited: August 05, 2013, 02:18:26 AM by Leftbehind »

Just another (at best - that's undeservedly granting his motives one where he isn't directly opposed to our interests) useless liberal the left is lumbered with. Probably wouldn't bother voting if I were an American: the vote for the lesser evil tactic adopted by the left is profoundly self-defeating.
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« Reply #19 on: August 05, 2013, 03:42:55 AM »

Hard for me to argue with TNF's post, to be honest.
Indeed, though I will say it hasn't been easy to pass his agenda.

Not good on civil liberties, but is trying elsewhere although is weak. Does seem like a good person though, particularly compared to the alternatives.
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« Reply #20 on: August 05, 2013, 06:05:23 AM »



LOL.



Massive FF for me. I'm sorry TNF, leftbehind, but it's the united states, he can't be completely progressive because he would lose. He passes Healthcare, and just for it, he deserves a FF.
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« Reply #21 on: August 05, 2013, 07:26:06 AM »

Massive HP, although as a person, better than Clinton.
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« Reply #22 on: August 05, 2013, 07:38:00 AM »

Massive FF for me. I'm sorry TNF, leftbehind, but it's the united states, he can't be completely progressive because he would lose. He passes Healthcare, and just for it, he deserves a FF.

1) There's a significant spectrum between what he's enacting, what he could afford to enact, and my ideal. It's safe to say Obama's nowhere near what he could afford to enact.

2) His healthcare bill completely sidesteps the main problem with American healthcare.

3) Even if turbo-neoliberals were more popular than social democrats in America, in a two party state unpopular parties routinely see government because the public are desperate to get rid of the incumbents. If liberal caretakers are the best the American left can hope for from the current strategy, they might as well just retain - and convince America of - the benefits of social democracy.
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« Reply #23 on: August 05, 2013, 07:46:04 AM »

HP, but not as much of one as some of his critics think.
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« Reply #24 on: August 05, 2013, 09:33:12 AM »

HP.
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