SENATE BILL: Fiscal Year 2014 White House Budget Proposal (Law'd)

[Maxwell]

Nay

[tmthforu94]

Nay!

[TJ in Oregon]

Nay

[TNF]

Aye.

Soak the rich and save the nation.

[Sbane]

Nay

[Gass3268]

Aye

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

NAY


Damn it TJ, y you vote twice? I thought I was going to get to end this.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

We gonna finish this soon?

[TNF]

Forgive me for dragging this debate out, but wouldn't it be a good idea for us *not* to run a surplus during an economic crisis? Atlasia is in recession and deficit spending might be necessary to take us out of the hole. I'd be willing to withdraw my amendment if we can come to a solution that increases useful spending that could serve as a means for reviving the economy. Deficit spending is our way out.

[Maxwell]

Deficit spending during a recession isn't terrible, but we have a bill on the way that will cost a lot (the basic income guarantee), and the worry is that it will already put us in a deficit, which is why there is a current surplus.

[TNF]

Deficit spending during a recession isn't terrible, but we have a bill on the way that will cost a lot (the basic income guarantee), and the worry is that it will already put us in a deficit, which is why there is a current surplus.

Bigger deficit = bigger recovery

[Sbane]

Keeping the tax rate at 50% and some more tax cuts at the bottom is something I could support. I don't really think deficit spending will work. What did you have in mind, TNF?

[Sec. of State Superique]

Deficit spending during a recession isn't terrible, but we have a bill on the way that will cost a lot (the basic income guarantee), and the worry is that it will already put us in a deficit, which is why there is a current surplus.

Bigger deficit = bigger recovery

This is not a simple equation and you know that. Why don't you ask the Italians, the Spanish, the Greek and the Irish to see if they agree with your equation? All of those countries that I mentioned have spent more than they should. Now take a look at their situation....

[TNF]

Deficit spending during a recession isn't terrible, but we have a bill on the way that will cost a lot (the basic income guarantee), and the worry is that it will already put us in a deficit, which is why there is a current surplus.

Bigger deficit = bigger recovery

This is not a simple equation and you know that. Why don't you ask the Italians, the Spanish, the Greek and the Irish to see if they agree with your equation? All of those countries that I mentioned have spent more than they should. Now take a look at their situation....

Except those countries were forced into austerity by arbitrary and insane limits set by the EU. Not the same situation in the least.

Keeping the tax rate at 50% and some more tax cuts at the bottom is something I could support. I don't really think deficit spending will work. What did you have in mind, TNF?

I would be in favor of keeping the top rate at 60% and cutting taxes for those at the bottom of the economic spectrum.

[Sec. of State Superique]

TNF, I'm not a proud supporter of austerity and I think that what the Europeans are doing is insane. But they would not have been facing that situation if they never irresponsably spent like they did after all. Furthemore, the crisis in Atlasia doesn't require a deficit, we can handle it within our means...

[TNF]

TNF, I'm not a proud supporter of austerity and I think that what the Europeans are doing is insane. But they would not have been facing that situation if they never irresponsably spent like they did after all. Furthemore, the crisis in Atlasia doesn't require a deficit, we can handle it within our means...

Deficit spending is the key to increasing demand and bringing back the economy. We need stimulus.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Time expires on this tonight.

Then it's sbane's turn.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Vote on Amendment 57:07 by TNF

Aye (2): Gass3268 and TNF
Nay (5): Maxwell, NC Yankee, sbane, TJ in Cleve and Tmthforu94
Abstain (0):

Didn't Vote (3): bore, Napoleon and Xahar

With five votes in the negative, two in the affirmative and time having expired, the amendment is rejected.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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Status: oh what the hell, it will be put to a vote anyway. Senators, please vote Aye, NAy or Abstain on the above amendment.

[Maxwell]

Aye

[tmthforu94]

Aye

[TNF]

Nay

[Sbane]

Aye

[TJ in Oregon]

Aye

[Хahar 🤔]

Nay