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« Reply #25 on: March 01, 2005, 03:56:17 AM »

Healthcare, Poverty, Economic Development etc. etc.
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« Reply #26 on: March 01, 2005, 04:23:13 AM »


I assume you strongly oppose that?Smiley

I guess you've got nothing to lose, since you plan to be poor all your life.

If I get a degree and net a $70k/year job and my wife gets even a $40k/year job, why should I care about high taxes? It's not like I'll be spending money on expensive suburban homes or nice cars or anything.

No, stick with poverty.  It makes you morally superior.  Contribute all your income over $25,000 per year to the government.  If everybody thought like you, our economy would rival Romania's.
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« Reply #27 on: March 01, 2005, 04:25:17 AM »

Yes, we've seen right-wing activist judges override state civil rights laws, like how they overruled the law in Alaska that said landlords couldn't discriminate against prospective tenants on the basis of marital status.

We've seen right-wing activist judges override the state of California by saying it couldn't ban excessive bank fees.

We've seen an activist right-wing Supreme Court allow Congress to require libraries to censor Internet access.

I support mandatory removal from office for activist judges who make rulings like this.

What about the left-wing California judges who decided in favor of liberal michael newdau in banning the pledge of alliegence in public schools?  What about the judicial activist who made murder in the form of abortion legal?  What about that, hippie!
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« Reply #28 on: March 01, 2005, 04:27:58 AM »

the environment and workers' rights -most of all issues
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« Reply #29 on: March 01, 2005, 04:30:38 AM »

poor grammar, in general.  more specifically, the use of the nominitave form of the personal pronouns in cases which require the objective form. 


I especially hate it when people use the object/accusative pronouns when they should be using subject/nominative.  Here's a few examples

It's me.  shoud be, it is I.

You're just like him.  should be, you're just like he is.

we are faster than them.  should be, we are faster than they are.

me too! should be, I too/also/as well.

Any noun following the verb "be" is in the subject case.  When a noun is being compared to another, (than/as/like) it is in the subject case.  


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« Reply #30 on: March 01, 2005, 06:45:53 AM »

You are talking about the invalidation of laws that have been passed by legislatures, as opposed to ordering legislatures to pass laws.  There is a difference.

I am not opposed to judicial review.  I think it is essential for the protection of minority opinions within the confines of the basic rights provided under the constitution.  But now we are reaching the point that minority opinions are being allowed to tyrannize the majority.  So many things have happened in the last 50 years that the majority didn't want, and while some were required by the constitution, such as legal equality among the races, many others were not.

The pendulum has swung too far in favor of judicial activism and must swing back or we will have a constitutional crisis.

The 'activism' has been to protect the individual from the tyranny of the majority.  Is it tyrranny of the majority to not allow them to tyrannize the minority?  I think not - i think it is the best aspect of America, and has occurred all too infrequently in our history.
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« Reply #31 on: March 01, 2005, 09:45:40 AM »
« Edited: March 01, 2005, 11:32:36 PM by Alcon »




I especially hate it when people use the object/accusative pronouns when they should be using subject/nominative.  Here's a few examples



those bug me too, as implied in my post, but do not rise, for me, to the level of "hot button"  When people use the nominative when they should use the objective really gets under my skin.  When that happens, I really want to reach out and give the speaker an open-handed, full-frontal cheek-slap, the way a pimp would strike an unruly hooker, or the way you'd slap a panic-striken person in order to knock some sense into them.  Man, I know people with PhDs in Physics, Engineering, or Chemistry who can't put together the simplest sentences.  And they brag about it!!!  "oh, my gramar is horrible.  Good thing we have secretaries."  Yeah, like they are any better.  Dorks.  It's very frustrating.  I'd say the grammar skills (or lack thereof!!!) being imparted by our public schools are a major pet peeve.  Oh, let's not even get started on their history, geography, algebra, ...

Your tax dollars at work, ladies and gentlemen! 
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« Reply #32 on: March 01, 2005, 09:49:22 AM »

People who claim there's something "wrong" with spoken English or German or whatever language you're talking, as if there could be any inherent "right" about these things.
Boy, these guys really should be forced to go through their entire public school career again.
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« Reply #33 on: March 01, 2005, 09:59:23 AM »

sehr lustig Herr Tondheim

I'm serious, the internet has done for language skills what calculators have done for arithmetic skills.  You don't know how many times I have had to watch a student root around in a backback for ten minutes looking for a calculator so they can know the sum of seven and three.  It's really very frustrating.
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« Reply #34 on: March 01, 2005, 11:01:36 AM »

People who claim there's something "wrong" with spoken English or German or whatever language you're talking, as if there could be any inherent "right" about these things.
Boy, these guys really should be forced to go through their entire public school career again.
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this is so true. Pay no attention to what your teachers tell you, there is no valid reason you should not use "ain't"
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« Reply #35 on: March 01, 2005, 12:23:09 PM »

1. national right ot work law
2. abolition of the death oenalty
3. free trade
4. equal rights for all.  it is 2005 and people are still discriminated against because of who they are or what they do in private. 
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« Reply #36 on: March 01, 2005, 12:28:15 PM »
« Edited: March 01, 2005, 11:33:16 PM by Alcon »

Ain't is okay.  I'm over contractions.  Seems the language has evolved in a way that contractions are acceptable in places like the WSJ nowadays, and that's not necessarily a bad thing. 

I also don't care for the new rules for pluralization of latinate words.  I still think the plural of scrotum ought to be scrota, and the plural of apparatus ought to be apparati.  I remember I got into a big argument with the GRS advisor over the use of the word apparati in my dissertation.  So he whips out his Yuppie Dictionary and shows me how the New American Yuppie Dictionary or whatever that birdcage liner publication was to show me how it should be apparatuses.  ignorant shallow yuppies running the country.  What's next? Octopussies? Morons.
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« Reply #37 on: March 01, 2005, 01:05:26 PM »

1. national right ot work law
2. abolition of the death oenalty
3. free trade
4. equal rights for all.  it is 2005 and people are still discriminated against because of who they are or what they do in private. 

These are all fine liberal ideas (classical liberal).  I agree with them all in principle.  Number one however should probably be somewhat unpopular amoung those who have to work for a living.
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« Reply #38 on: March 01, 2005, 01:30:50 PM »

Uh, no. Only the third is a classical liberal idea.

The first is blatantly unconstitutional. The fourth is exceedingly totalitarian and socialistic.
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« Reply #39 on: March 01, 2005, 02:27:32 PM »

What about the left-wing California judges who decided in favor of liberal michael newdau in banning the pledge of alliegence in public schools?

The judges in this case were right.
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« Reply #40 on: March 01, 2005, 02:30:14 PM »




I especially hate it when people use the object/accusative pronouns when they should be using subject/nominative.  Here's a few examples



those bug me too, as implied in my post, but do not rise, for me, to the level of "hot button"  When people use the nominative when they should use the objective really gets under my skin.  When that happens, I really want to reach out and give the speaker an open-handed, full-frontal cheek-slap, the way a pimp would strike an unruly hooker, or the way you'd slap a panic-striken person in order to knock some sense into them.  Man, I know people with PhDs in Physics, Engineering, or Chemistry who can't put together the simplest sentences.  And they g brag about it!!!  "oh, my gramar is horrible.  Good thing we have secretaries."  Yeah, like they are any better.  Dorks.  It's very frustrating.  I'd say the grammar skills (or lack thereof!!!) being imparted by our public schools are a major pet peeve.  Oh, let's not even get started on their history, geography, algebra, ...

Your tax dollars at work, ladies and gentlemen! 

My last boss used to write in his e-mails

*if you have any questions, ask my secretaryor myself*

ARGH!  my-your-him-her-our-them-self/ves are either reflexive or intensive pronouns.

My mom gave this gift to my wife and I

Me and my wife went to the store.

ARGH!
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« Reply #41 on: March 01, 2005, 04:06:08 PM »

What about the left-wing California judges who decided in favor of liberal michael newdau in banning the pledge of alliegence in public schools?

The judges in this case were right.

No, I think they were left Smiley.


Failure to protect the life for all citizens (who have not been convicted in a court of law) from the time of conception to natrual death.

Attacks on Religious Freedom.

Attacks on Digital Freedoms.

Wasteful and Unconstitutional spending.

Raising my taxes and lowering corporate taxes.
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« Reply #42 on: March 01, 2005, 05:17:04 PM »

1) Education

2) Abortion

3) Balance between values and liberty

4) Spreading Democratic Government

5) Social Programs
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« Reply #43 on: March 01, 2005, 05:44:14 PM »

Failure to protect the life for all citizens (who have not been convicted in a court of law) from the time of conception to natrual death.

These dependent cells aren't citizens.  Heck Mexicans aren't citizens and they're actual human beings.

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No such thing.  We secularists are trying to defend our right not to have your disgusting practices and primitive rites shoved down our throats in the public forum and on the public dime.

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Do you mean like the latest attempt at censorship by the GOP?
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050301/ap_on_go_co/congress_indecency_1
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« Reply #44 on: March 01, 2005, 06:22:19 PM »

1) Gay Marriage-Instead of defining marriage in religious terms which I'm pretty sure is unconstitutional under the establishment clause which pretty much says that the federal govenment cannot favor any single religion practices or establish religious law. Instead we should leave it up to the priests and ministers to dictate the law of the bible in their individual churches. I think we could, however establish civil unions as a way of defining marriage on the federal level separating it from the church-I say leave it up to your indivdual churches to decide what's right and wrong in their own communities. Let all couples, homosexual and heterosexual receive equal benefits from the federal government. I would like to stress that in no way to I support the marriage of homosexuals in the church, but I also believe that what is written in the bible is up for interpretation, I'm not a theologist, so I'm not even going to try.

2) Death Penalty-Abolish the death penalty for most cases, we have no right to decide who is going to live and die, that's up to God. I'd like to see America join the rest of the Democratic world. How can we presume to preach democracy in the Middle East and elsewhere if our justice system isn't even like most democratic nations.

3) Drug offenders-Lets quit sending drug abusers to prison for longer terms than most rapists and child abusers get. Instead, we should initially send them to rehabilitation, and not some half ass thing, we should assemble the best psychiatrists and medical professionals in the country to lead a national rehad center with the best care money can buy. I know you're going to ask where's the money going to come from for this, I don't know yet. I know no one is up for higher taxes, so if you have any ideas let me know.

4) Health Care-We need to socialize health care. Health care is a right, not a privelege for the very wealthy. My father was diagnosed with prostate cancer a couple of years ago and the hospital bills almost killed us. My parents had to declare bankruptcy and they had to borrow money from my grandparents which I'm sure really made them feel even worse. Stopping obesity in young children and adolescents should also be a top priority. I read somewhere that my generation's life expectancy has actually gone down, that's the first time in history that has happened. I think it was if you were born between 1980 and 1989 or somethng like that. I not sure. But it's an extremely important issue that needs to be dealt with.

5) Social Security-I think we need to raise the retirement age instead of privatizing it. People are living longer and new medical technologies are being created everyday to prolong our lives. I think privatization looks really good right now to a lot of people, but I think in the end it will hurt a lot of the elderly who have social security as their only source of income. We don't want to go back to the days where becoming old meant that you might go into poverty and everyday a struggle to survive. I agree that our current system needs a lot of improvement. You know maybe partial privatization for now until we have fed enough money into the system to prevent it from going bankrupt. We can't drop the current system altogether it must be dealt with in a thoughtful and intelligent way. We can't just go with the one plan we have now, we must continue to negotiate and think about the problem while there's still time. What looks good now may not be good for the future.
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« Reply #45 on: March 01, 2005, 06:30:28 PM »

Failure to protect the life for all citizens (who have not been convicted in a court of law) from the time of conception to natrual death.

These dependent cells aren't citizens.  Heck Mexicans aren't citizens and they're actual human beings.

Mexicans who do not follow proper immigration procedures should not be in the country in the first place. Citizenship does not start until birth. But it should start at conception.

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No such thing.  We secularists are trying to defend our right not to have your disgusting practices and primitive rites shoved down our throats in the public forum and on the public dime.
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In a sense we fight for the same thing. I want my right to practice my religion and your lack of religion could just as easily be considered "disgusting practices and primitive rites" and that you are shoving secularism down our throats. The real question is where does the line between endorsing and restricting religion begin.

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Do you mean like the latest attempt at censorship by the GOP?
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I'm sure that would be one of them. The Digital Millenium Copyright Act (1998 or 1999, passed the Senate 99-0) is the first one that comes to mind. But this is both parties, not just the Republicans. Keep in mind though that most of California (which is heavily liberal) has been on the wrong side of these type of issues as well (since Hollywood is in California). This also ties into my fifth point about rich corporations. They have the money to get things like that passed as well as getting thier tax rate lowered.

And some people wonder why I voted for neither Bush nor Kerry.
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« Reply #46 on: March 01, 2005, 09:58:56 PM »

Mine
1. Repeal the unconstitutional gun control laws.  Preserve the second amendment
2. Stop socialized health care from happening.  Save lives, and dollars.
3. Repeal the income tax once and for all.

Bingo!
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« Reply #47 on: March 01, 2005, 11:30:33 PM »


I assume this means you think that women's rights are more important than men's rights?

No. But there are few (if any) female politicians who are openly anti-male. Therefore, men's rights does not need to be addressed the way women's rights does.
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« Reply #48 on: March 02, 2005, 03:13:01 AM »


I assume this means you think that women's rights are more important than men's rights?

No. But there are few (if any) female politicians who are openly anti-male. Therefore, men's rights does not need to be addressed the way women's rights does.

I think you're kidding yourself.  Give up the left-wing propaganda and look at the truth.  There are plenty of MALE politicians who are anti-male.  John Kerry said "I'm going to put the legal system on the side of women."  This is an outrageous statement.

And there are no organized anti-female groups as their are organized anti-male groups supporting the Democratic Party (groups like NOW).  If you don't recognize these groups as anti-male, with an agenda that seeks to make us into second-class citizens because of that Y chromosone, then you truly have blinders on.
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« Reply #49 on: March 02, 2005, 12:28:29 PM »

I also don't care for the new rules for pluralization of latinate words.  I still think the plural of scrotum ought to be scrota, and the plural of apparatus ought to be apparati.  I remember I got into a big argument with the GRS advisor over the use of the word apparati in my dissertation.  So he whips out his Yuppie Dictionary and shows me how the New American Yuppie Dictionary or whatever that birdcage liner publication was to show me how it should be apparatuses.  ignorant shallow yuppies running the country.  What's next? Octopussies? Morons.
Viri instead of viruses?  Feti instead of fetuses?

How about the genitive?  Is it "the apparati's purpose" or "the apparatorum purpose"?  Or better yet, "purpose apparatorum"?

By the way, "octopus" is Greek, not Latin.  "Pus" means "foot" and the plural form is "podes" not "pi".  The correct plural forms would be "octopodes" (almost never used) or "octopuses" (or "octopusses", as in the "buses/busses" problem), but not "octopi".

Your dissertation annoyance is sympathized with, however.  My dissertation was changed to strictly passive voice to conform to the "proper" style.  This change was resisted, but the decision was made to conform so that my degree could be received.
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