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« on: August 16, 2013, 02:54:44 PM »

What would the names of Australia's electoral divisions be if they were given (exclusively) geographical names, like in Canada?

Here are some ideas:

Adelaide: Adelaide Centre
Aston: Knox
Ballarat: Ballarat-Moorabool-Hepburn
Banks: Hurstville-Padstow
Barker: Bordertown-Mount Gambier-Riverlands
Barton: Rockdale-Kogarah
Bass: Laurenceston-George Town-Dorset-Flinders
Batman: Darebin
Bendigo: Bendigo-Mount Alexander-Kyneton
Bennelong: Ryde
Berowa: Hornsby-Berowa

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« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2013, 03:16:57 PM »

Loves it, more...

Hotham: Bentleigh (or Bentleigh East, but that suggests there is a West, and is there?)
Lalor: Werribee
Scullin: Epping - Mill Park
Durack: Pilbara - Kimberley - Mid West
O'Connor: Goldfields-Esperance
Hinkler: Bundaber - Hervey Bay

OHhhh the possibilities! Tongue
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« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2013, 04:58:31 PM »

A Scottish style one...

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« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2013, 06:35:06 PM »

There is a Bentleigh West school, but no suburb of Bentleigh West. Most of you are already aware, but for anyone who isn't, when I say suburb, it's like the neighbourhoods of New York, or communities in Canada. They typically have their own postcode, and perhaps originally designated by the post office, but I don't think that's the case now - I recall the Minister for Planning announcing new suburbs, so they may now be designated by the respective state governments - I shall investigate further via Places Victoria...

After that lengthy aside... The relevant municipalities/city councils in Hotham are Glen Eira (Southeast) and Monash (South). That combination may be best. Bentleigh and Moorabbin are in Glen Eira, Oakleigh, Clayton and Springvale are the main suburbs in the Monash part.

In short, Glen Eira Southeast -- Monash South is probably my preference, or otherwise Bentleigh -- Oakleigh -- Springvale. Demographically, Oakleigh has a heavy Greek influence, Clayton and Springvale have many Australians of Vietnamese extraction, with a growing population of Indian Australians. A reasonably high Jewish population in Bentleigh, but not as many as Caulfield, obviously.
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« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2013, 06:45:08 PM »

I've been half-meaning to try British constituencies with Australian type names for a while now (essentially an excuse to unload yet more meaningless trivia onto this small corner of the internets).

Anyways, with regards to renaming Aussie divisions, you might want to check local government areas and state electoral divisions, at least as a starting point. This could be useful as well, maybe.
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« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2013, 07:00:05 PM »

I've been half-meaning to try British constituencies with Australian type names for a while now (essentially an excuse to unload yet more meaningless trivia onto this small corner of the internets).

Anyways, with regards to renaming Aussie divisions, you might want to check local government areas and state electoral divisions, at least as a starting point. This could be useful as well, maybe.

Bentleigh, Oakleigh and Clayton are existing state electoral districts, Springvale was a former one.

Also, Isaacs would probably be Chelsea, although Kingston would probably work. Not as good as Chelsea, but still doable.
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« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2013, 09:14:55 PM »

The four electorates I have lived in:

Grayndler: Marrickville-Leichhardt-Ashfield-Newtown
Sydney: Sydney Central-Balmain-Redfern
Banks: Hurstville-Padstow-Oatley
Barton: Kogarah-Rockdale

Sounds like fun. Will post up some more later.
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« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2013, 09:35:12 PM »

Wentworth: Vaucluse-Bondi-Paddington-Coogee
Kingsford-Smith: Botany-Maroubra
Reid: Drummoyne-Burwood-Strathfield-Auburn
Watson: Canterbury-Campsie-Lakemba
Blaxland: Bankstown-Guildford-Villawood
Fowler: Cabramatta-Liverpool
McMahon: Fairfield-Greystanes-Smithfield-St Clair
Werriwa: Minto-Macquarie Fields-Prestons
Macarthur: Campbelltown-Camden
Parramatta: Dundas-Parramatta-Wenworthville-Merrylands
Greenway: Blacktown-Riverstone
Chifley: Doonside-Mount Druitt-Lethbridge Park
Lindsay: Penrith-St Marys-Cambridge Park-Emu Plains
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« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2013, 09:04:46 AM »


Close to my names Smiley

BTW, I was using primarily LGAs for the names, as most divisions have far too many suburbs to be included.
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« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2013, 03:40:50 PM »

I've been half-meaning to try British constituencies with Australian type names for a while now.

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« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2013, 03:44:19 PM »
« Edited: August 17, 2013, 03:52:59 PM by Supersonic »

I've been half-meaning to try British constituencies with Australian type names for a while now.

"My right honourable friend, the member for Thatcher."

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« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2013, 06:21:39 PM »


Close to my names Smiley

BTW, I was using primarily LGAs for the names, as most divisions have far too many suburbs to be included.
I tried to do that, unfortunately too many divisions are what some may call 'dog's breakfasts'.
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« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2013, 06:38:10 PM »

Cook: Cronulla-Miranda-Gymea
Hughes: Menai-Moorebank-Heathcote
Bennelong: Ryde-Epping
North Sydney: North Sydney-Lane Cove-Hunters Hill
Warringah: Manly-Mosman-Brookvale
Mackellar: Pittwater-Dee Why-Belrose
Bradfield: Pymble-St Ives (or alternatively, Ku-ring-gai)
Mitchell: Baulkham Hills-The Hills
Berowra: Pennant Hills-Hornsby-Berowra-Dural
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« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2013, 08:21:48 PM »

I've been half-meaning to try British constituencies with Australian type names for a while now (essentially an excuse to unload yet more meaningless trivia onto this small corner of the internets).

Anyways, with regards to renaming Aussie divisions, you might want to check local government areas and state electoral divisions, at least as a starting point. This could be useful as well, maybe.

To start you off with my home patch -

Portsmouth South: Dickens or Brunel
Portsmouth North: Callaghan

also

Hastings and Rye: Watt
Bexhill and Battle: Harold or William
Lincoln: Remigius
Fareham: Carausius

Just to give a few places I know well a historical flavour!
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« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2013, 07:48:21 AM »

Western Australia with Canadian names, mainly LGA names:

Brand:Kwinana-Rockingham
Canning: Armadale-Mandurah-Murray
Cowan: Wanneroo-Warwick-Ballajura
Curtin: Cottesloe-Claremont-Subiaco-Cambridge
Durack: Geraldton-Gascoyne-Pilbara-Kimberley
Forrest: Bunbury-Busselton-Collie
Fremantle: Fremantle-Cockburn
Hasluck: Midland-Kalamunda-Gosnells
Moore: Joondalup
O'Connor: Albany-Esperance-Kalgoorlie
Pearce: Brookton-York-Northam-Gingin-Butler
Perth: Perth Centre, or Perth-Vincent-Bayswater-Bassendean
Stirling: Stirling (boring, I know), or
Swan: Belmont-Cannington-Victoria Park-Como (didn't want to use South Perth here)
Tangney: Melville
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« Reply #15 on: August 18, 2013, 08:53:24 AM »

I've been half-meaning to try British constituencies with Australian type names for a while now (essentially an excuse to unload yet more meaningless trivia onto this small corner of the internets).

Except a lot of Australian riding names are essentially completely random.
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« Reply #16 on: August 18, 2013, 10:12:38 AM »

I've been half-meaning to try British constituencies with Australian type names for a while now (essentially an excuse to unload yet more meaningless trivia onto this small corner of the internets).

Except a lot of Australian riding names are essentially completely random.

Well, quite. What I was thinking of doing was listing possibilities, including throwing in a few completely random ones...
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« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2013, 12:25:52 PM »


Pearce: Brookton-York-Northam-Gingin-Butler



Too long. Is there a geographical feature that unites the division?
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« Reply #18 on: August 18, 2013, 01:01:41 PM »

Will a river do?
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« Reply #19 on: August 18, 2013, 01:37:36 PM »


Yes. There are ridings in Canada that are named for a river running through it. (eg Battle River)
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« Reply #20 on: August 18, 2013, 01:42:06 PM »

Then about the only unifying name would be that of a river (the Avon), unless 'ghastly outer Perth sprawlburbia' counts (and I'm sure it doesn't).
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« Reply #21 on: August 18, 2013, 02:25:53 PM »

I've been half-meaning to try British constituencies with Australian type names for a while now (essentially an excuse to unload yet more meaningless trivia onto this small corner of the internets).

Except a lot of Australian riding names are essentially completely random.

Well, quite. What I was thinking of doing was listing possibilities, including throwing in a few completely random ones...

I did it for Scotland (Holyrood) a while ago. I'll need to post it; Anniesland is Dewar, Paisley is Wilson for the Radical activist (though Asquith was tempting) etc
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« Reply #22 on: August 18, 2013, 02:26:43 PM »

Then about the only unifying name would be that of a river (the Avon), unless 'ghastly outer Perth sprawlburbia' counts (and I'm sure it doesn't).

Looking at the electoral map, Perth North works fine.
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« Reply #23 on: August 18, 2013, 02:48:04 PM »

Then about the only unifying name would be that of a river (the Avon), unless 'ghastly outer Perth sprawlburbia' counts (and I'm sure it doesn't).

Looking at the electoral map, Perth North works fine.
Not really.



It's all the nonmetropolitan shires from Gingin to Beverley and the "greater part" of the two northeastern intra-metro government units (the city of Swan and the shire of Mundaring to the south of it). So if anything it'd be Perth Northeast... but really it's more an exurbanized rural (what Aussies call "regional", ie not the extra-remote bush country) district than anything describable as part of the city of Perth. And thus should not be named Perth.
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« Reply #24 on: August 18, 2013, 02:49:36 PM »

Then about the only unifying name would be that of a river (the Avon), unless 'ghastly outer Perth sprawlburbia' counts (and I'm sure it doesn't).

Looking at the electoral map, Perth North works fine.

No. "Perth North" implies it's a more urban division. I know in Atlantic Canada they stretch that a bit (such as your own Halifax West), but Perth is too large for this to be an appropriate name.
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