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« on: August 17, 2013, 07:25:23 PM »

If you don't think one of these groups can be elected President even now note the year when you think their election will be possible and feel free to add any additional demographics.

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Mormon-
Jewish-
Muslim-
Buddhist-
Atheist-
Woman-
Unmarried But In Sexual Relationship-
Polygamous-
Homosexual-
Transsexual-
Black-
Hispanic-
Asian-
Native American-
Disabled-
Has Depression-
Has Asperger's-
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« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2013, 08:29:03 PM »

Roman Catholic-2016
Mormon-2016
Jewish-2016
Muslim-2016
Buddhist-2016
Atheist-2016
Woman-2016
Unmarried But In Sexual Relationship-2016
Polygamous-2016
Homosexual-2016
Transsexual-2016
Black-2016
Hispanic-2016
Asian-2016
Native American-2016
Disabled-2016
Has Depression-2016
Has Asperger's-2016

Who knows?  Its possible...
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« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2013, 11:50:15 AM »





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« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2013, 01:24:43 PM »

Roman Catholic-Already happened.
Mormon-Soon.
Jewish-Soon.
Muslim-2020ish.
Buddhist-2020ish.
Atheist-I am convinced that Obama is an atheist or at least agnostic but won't admit it for political reasons.
Woman-Her name was Edith Wilson.
Unmarried But In Sexual Relationship-2016
Polygamous-Never.
Homosexual-President Buchanan and maybe Lincoln.
Transsexual-2040ish.
Black-Obomber.
Hispanic-2020
Asian-2020
Native American-I dunno, depends on when Elizabeth Warren runs.
Disabled-FDR.
Has Depression-Nixon.
Has Asperger's-His name was Dubya.

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« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2013, 02:42:13 PM »
« Edited: August 23, 2013, 12:18:26 AM by Welcome to Costco. I Love You. »

If you don't think one of these groups can be elected President even now note the year when you think their election will be possible and feel free to add any additional demographics.

Roman Catholic- 1960 was stolen, so probably 1972.
Mormon- 2004
Jewish- 1976
Muslim- Once they finally get their reputation back.
Buddhist- Probably in the near future.
Atheist- 2032
Woman- 1992
Unmarried But In Sexual Relationship- Depends if the relationship is well known
Polygamous- Never
Homosexual- I'll guess 2020
Transsexual- Never.
Black- 1980
Hispanic- White Hispanics 1984, Brown Hispanics 2004.
Asian- 2012
Native American- 2000
Disabled- What do you mean by that?
Has Depression- We likely already had a few.
Has Asperger's- Thomas Jefferson

You forgot Robot, by the way.
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« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2013, 04:31:59 PM »


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« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2015, 04:59:31 PM »

If you don't think one of these groups can be elected President even now note the year when you think their election will be possible and feel free to add any additional demographics.

Roman Catholic-
Mormon-
Jewish-
Muslim-
Buddhist-
Atheist-
Woman-
Unmarried But In Sexual Relationship-
Polygamous-
Homosexual-
Transsexual-
Black-
Hispanic-
Asian-
Native American-
Disabled-
Has Depression-
Has Asperger's-
Mormon-1960
Jewish-1976
Muslim-2020
Buddhist-2020
Atheist-2020
Woman-1992
Unmarried But In Sexual Relationship-2008
Polygamous-2020
Homosexual-2016
Transsexual-2020
Black-2000
Hispanic-2000
Asian-2000
Native American-2000
Disabled-2000
Has Depression-2016
Has Asperger's-2016
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« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2015, 05:13:04 PM »

If you don't think one of these groups can be elected President even now note the year when you think their election will be possible and feel free to add any additional demographics.

Roman Catholic- 1952
Mormon- 1960
Jewish- 1980
Muslim- 2040
Buddhist- 2030
Atheist- 2050
Woman- 1976
Unmarried But In Sexual Relationship- 2000
Polygamous- Never
Homosexual- 2035
Transsexual- 2050
Black- Maybe 1988 or 1992 ? I figure you would need at least 2 + decades after the civil rights movement to cool down racial tensions.
Hispanic- 1976
Asian- 1988
Native American- 1988
Disabled-
Has Depression-
Has Asperger's-
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« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2015, 12:21:17 AM »

Why did you leave the last 3 blank?
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« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2015, 02:10:21 AM »

We had a disabled man elected president.
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« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2015, 03:45:57 PM »

I'm going to do time periods (instead of specific years) of when the group could've first gotten elected.

Roman Catholic- Anytime
Mormon- 1960's
Jewish- 1940's
Muslim- Eh, wait a few decades.
Buddhist- Now, but they're such a minority that its very unlikely.
Atheist- Never
Woman- 1970's
Unmarried But In Sexual Relationship- Anytime
Polygamous- Never
Homosexual- Now
Transsexual- Probably still now
Black- 1990's
Hispanic- 1990's
Asian- 1990's
Native American- 2000's
Disabled- Anytime
Has Depression- Anytime
Has Asperger's- Eh, never.
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« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2015, 05:39:50 PM »

Roman Catholic-1940
Mormon-1960
Jewish-1948
Muslim-1988?
Buddhist-1972
Atheist-2008
Woman-1972
Unmarried But In Sexual Relationship-2000
Polygamous-not foreseeable
Homosexual-1992
Transsexual-2008
Black-1988
Hispanic-1972
Asian-1976
Native American-1976
Disabled-1932
Has Depression-1972
Has Asperger's-1992
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« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2015, 06:07:17 PM »
« Edited: May 08, 2015, 06:11:33 PM by RFayette »

If anything, for Asperger's, wouldn't a more appropriate question be when the last time it would be politically feasible for someone to become a President with it?  (I think the answer to that is before TV for sure, and possibly before radio, so about 1920 maybe)  I mean, Jefferson flat out had it and in an age where the media was all print, it would have a minimal impact.  Ditto with depression.

Roman Catholic- 1952
Mormon- 1968
Jewish- 1948 (after creation of Israel)
Muslim- 2050-2060 or later
Buddhist- Now, but they're such a minority that its very unlikely.
Atheist- 2040-2050 or later
Woman- 1972
Unmarried But In Sexual Relationship- 2016
Polygamous- Never
Homosexual- 2016
Transsexual- 2020
Black- 1992
Hispanic- 1972
Asian- 1988
Native American- 2000
Disabled- 1789-1960 U 2008 - present
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« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2015, 06:17:55 PM »
« Edited: May 08, 2015, 06:22:45 PM by I'm a RINO »

If anything, for Asperger's, wouldn't a more appropriate question be when the last time it would be politically feasible for someone to become a President with it?  (I think the answer to that is before TV for sure, and possibly before radio, so about 1920 maybe)  I mean, Jefferson flat out had it and in an age where the media was all print, it would have a minimal impact.  Ditto with depression.

Jefferson wasn't the only president with depression. Every president from TR to Coolidge had depression. The most recent president to have depression was Reagan.

Other than Jefferson I don't know about Asperger's.
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« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2015, 01:27:57 PM »

Has Asperger's-1968

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« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2015, 04:19:02 PM »
« Edited: May 09, 2015, 10:29:25 PM by Stranger in a strange land »

Roman Catholic- 1948: after the war, Catholic ethnic groups were perceived as fully American by enough people
Mormon- 1960
Jewish- 1960
Muslim- sometime in the 2060s
Buddhist- 2000
Atheist- sometime in the 2100s
Woman- 1980
Unmarried But In Sexual Relationship- 2036
Polygamous- never
Homosexual- 2028
Transsexual- sometime in the late 21st century, but it's such a small minority that it'll probably never happen
Black- 1996 (Colin Powell)
Hispanic- 2008
Asian- 2008
Native American- someone with some Native American ancestry (like 1/8 for example) could have been elected even in the early days of the Republic. Charles Curtis, who was half Native American, might have been able to get elected in the 1930s had Hoover's presidency gone better.
Disabled- depends on the disability, but as many have pointed out, FDR was disabled.
Has Depression- 1789 (in the 18th and 19th centuries, people who would now be thought of as depressed were typically described with terms such as "melancholy", and the stigma was much weaker. Remember also that many people with depression are able to conceal it from all but their closest family and friends)
Has Asperger's- 1789 (it would have been much easier to conceal in the pre-TV era. Also, in those days, people with symptoms now associated with Asperger's were generally thought of as eccentrics - a little odd but not harmful, and certainly not stigmatized to anywhere near the degree it is now)
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« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2015, 04:46:43 PM »

Never.

Groups can't get elected president.  Only an individual can.
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« Reply #17 on: May 10, 2015, 11:54:44 AM »

Roman Catholic-1932
Mormon-1968
Jewish-1952
Muslim-2032
Buddhist-2000
Atheist-2016
Woman-1980
Unmarried But In Sexual Relationship-2008
Polygamous-Never
Homosexual-2016
Transsexual-2032
Black-1996
Hispanic-1960
Asian-1972
Native American-1968
Disabled-1789
Has Depression-1789
Has Asperger's-Never
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« Reply #18 on: May 10, 2015, 04:05:50 PM »

Roman Catholic- 1948
Mormon- 1980
Jewish- 1960
Muslim- 2036
Buddhist- 2008
Atheist- after 2100 if ever
Woman- 1948 (Frances Perkins as FDR's VP in 1944), otherwise 1980
Unmarried But In Sexual Relationship- 1884 (Cleveland was a bachelor with an acknowledged illegitimate child)
Polygamous- technically 1828 but done unknowingly, if intentional and public about it, never
Homosexual- technically 1856, if openly gay during campaign, 2024
Transsexual- If they have identified as their current sex since childhood, 2060
Black- 1992
Hispanic- 1980 (senator/governor of New Mexico)
Asian- 1980 (senator/governor of Hawaii)
Native American- 1789 (any ancestry), 1932 (formal tribe member)
Disabled- 1789 (private, invisible disability/health issue), 1932 (in wheelchair or severe vision/hearing impairment), note that a blind senator was also elected during FDR's time
Has Depression- 1860 or earlier, Lincoln was clearly depressed by modern diagnostic standards
Has Asperger's- 1789
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« Reply #19 on: May 10, 2015, 04:10:32 PM »

Never.

Groups can't get elected president.  Only an individual can.

Sounds like something a defender of WASPy elite privilege would say, under the guise of "liberal, free-thinking individualism." Wink
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« Reply #20 on: May 17, 2015, 01:55:13 PM »

Roman Catholic- 1948
Mormon- 1980
Jewish- 1960
Muslim- 2036
Buddhist- 2008
Atheist- after 2100 if ever
Woman- 1948 (Frances Perkins as FDR's VP in 1944), otherwise 1980
Unmarried But In Sexual Relationship- 1884 (Cleveland was a bachelor with an acknowledged illegitimate child)
Polygamous- technically 1828 but done unknowingly, if intentional and public about it, never
Homosexual- technically 1856, if openly gay during campaign, 2024
Transsexual- If they have identified as their current sex since childhood, 2060
Black- 1992
Hispanic- 1980 (senator/governor of New Mexico)
Asian- 1980 (senator/governor of Hawaii)
Native American- 1789 (any ancestry), 1932 (formal tribe member)
Disabled- 1789 (private, invisible disability/health issue), 1932 (in wheelchair or severe vision/hearing impairment), note that a blind senator was also elected during FDR's time
Has Depression- 1860 or earlier, Lincoln was clearly depressed by modern diagnostic standards
Has Asperger's- 1789

Andrew Jackson was a polygamist?
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« Reply #21 on: May 17, 2015, 02:21:16 PM »

Roman Catholic- 1948
Mormon- 1980
Jewish- 1960
Muslim- 2036
Buddhist- 2008
Atheist- after 2100 if ever
Woman- 1948 (Frances Perkins as FDR's VP in 1944), otherwise 1980
Unmarried But In Sexual Relationship- 1884 (Cleveland was a bachelor with an acknowledged illegitimate child)
Polygamous- technically 1828 but done unknowingly, if intentional and public about it, never
Homosexual- technically 1856, if openly gay during campaign, 2024
Transsexual- If they have identified as their current sex since childhood, 2060
Black- 1992
Hispanic- 1980 (senator/governor of New Mexico)
Asian- 1980 (senator/governor of Hawaii)
Native American- 1789 (any ancestry), 1932 (formal tribe member)
Disabled- 1789 (private, invisible disability/health issue), 1932 (in wheelchair or severe vision/hearing impairment), note that a blind senator was also elected during FDR's time
Has Depression- 1860 or earlier, Lincoln was clearly depressed by modern diagnostic standards
Has Asperger's- 1789

Andrew Jackson was a polygamist?

His wife didn't divorce her first husband until 3 years after the Jackson marriage so she was married to two men simultaneously.
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« Reply #22 on: May 19, 2015, 08:13:16 PM »

Black 1996 Colin Powell
Woman 2016 Hillary
Latino 2008 Bill Richardson of course
Roman Catholic 1960 Kennedy

Atheist or Muslin never
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« Reply #23 on: May 20, 2015, 06:12:27 PM »
« Edited: May 20, 2015, 06:16:36 PM by Cryptic »

Roman Catholic- 1932 if Smith is renominated, otherwise 1948.
Mormon- 1960
Jewish- 1948
Muslim- 2036
Buddhist- 2016
Atheist- 2068
Woman- 1980
Unmarried But In Sexual Relationship- 2040
Polygamous- Never
Homosexual- 2032
Transsexual- 2060
Black- 1992
Hispanic- 2000
Asian- 1992
Native American-1789 for some ancestry, 2000 for full ethnicity.
Disabled- 1789-1960, 2008 (Obviously, wasn’t an issue pre-TV with FDR. Post-TV, I’ll say ’08.)
Has Depression- 1789-1976, 2020 (Post-Watergate press scrutiny would’ve made it very difficult to conceal clinical depression. There’d still be a stigma if a candidate ran with it now, but I think enough people won’t care in the near future.)
Has Asperger's- 1789-1960, 2032 (Again, before TV a non-issue. Given the stronger stigma associated with it, I think it’ll be a couple decades before enough people become comfortable enough for some to win with it.)
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