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« Reply #25 on: August 19, 2013, 05:44:59 PM »
« edited: August 19, 2013, 05:50:14 PM by shua »

Huh

Several people are counting weirdly here, so I don't know if I didn't explain this well enough or if something else is going on.
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« Reply #26 on: August 19, 2013, 06:06:50 PM »

Huh

Several people are counting weirdly here, so I don't know if I didn't explain this well enough or if something else is going on.

Sorry, I guess I didn't read the OP all the way through.  I put a "+" next to the proposals which I would vote on in the affirmative, not by the ones I agree with the ACU on.
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« Reply #27 on: August 19, 2013, 06:21:36 PM »

1. Domestic Energy Production (ANWR, KXL) - HR 3408 -

2. Conservative Alternative Budget amendment to H Con Res 112 -

3. Federal Land Management (Sportsmen’s Heritage Act) HR 4089 -

4. Elimination funding for Economic Development Administration - Pompeo Amendment to HR 5326 -

5. Public-Private Competition (FPI) - Huizenga amendment to HR 5326 -

6. Elimination of funding for Legal Services Corporation - Austin Scott amendment to HR 5326. -

7. Healthcare Law Litigation - Blackburn amendment to HR 5326 -

8. DOMA adherence - Huelskamp amendemnt to HR 5326 -

9. NSF Political Science Funding - Flake amendment to HR 5326
prohibits NSF funds to go to political science research. passed 218-208. ACU supported.

10. Afghanistan Defense Spending - Lee amendment to HR 4310 +

11. Terror Suspect Trials - Rooney amendment to HR 4310 -

12. Missile Defense -  Polis amendment to HR 4310 -

13. Public-Private Competition (DoD) - Coffman amendment to HR 4310 +

14. Sex-Selection Abortion - HR 3541 - (support in principle, but it's not something I'd like to restrict)

15. Project Labor Agreements - Grimm amendment to HR 5854 -

16. Science/Renewable Energy Funding - Hultgren amendment to HR 5325 -

17. Davis-Bacon Act - King amendment to HR 5326 -

18. Border Security/Environment - Grijalva amendment to HR 2578 -

19. Air Service Subsidies. - McClintock amendment to HR 5972 -

20. Elimination of Community Development Block Grants
- MClintock amendment to HR 5972.  -

21. Healthcare Bill Repeal.  HR 6079 -

22. Offshore Oil and Gas - HR 6082 -

23. Energy Project Loan Guarantees - Waxman amendment to HR 6213 -

24. Welfare Reform Waivers - HJ Res 118 -

25. Climate and Water Regulations - HR 3409 -

8%.
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« Reply #28 on: August 19, 2013, 06:23:01 PM »

So the same score as these guys:

NY    U.S. House    1    Tim Bishop    Democratic    8%
FL    U.S. House    5    Corrine Brown    Democratic    8%
DE    U.S. House    At-Large    John Carney, Jr.    Democratic    8%
         Norm Dicks       8%
TX    U.S. House    35    Lloyd Doggett    Democratic    8%
NM    U.S. Senate    Jr    Martin Heinrich    Democratic    8%
NY    U.S. House    3    Steve Israel    Democratic    8%
WI    U.S. House    3    Ron Kind    Democratic    8%
MI    U.S. Senate    Sr    Carl Levin    Democratic    8%
NY    U.S. House    4    Carolyn McCarthy    Democratic    8%
CA    U.S. House    9    Jerry McNerney    Democratic    8%
NJ    U.S. Senate    Sr    Bob Menendez    Democratic    8%
ME    U.S. House    2    Mike Michaud    Democratic    8%
FL    U.S. Senate    Sr    William Nelson, Sr.    Democratic    8%
MI    U.S. House    14    Gary Peters    Democratic    8%
         Silvestre Reyes       8%
MD    U.S. House    2    Dutch Ruppersberger    Democratic    8%
VT    U.S. Senate    Jr    Bernie Sanders    Independent    8%
GA    U.S. House    13    David Scott    Democratic    8%
AL    U.S. House    7    Terri Sewell    Democratic    8%
WA    U.S. House    9    Adam Smith    Democratic    8%
MS    U.S. House    2    Bennie Thompson    Democratic    8%
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« Reply #29 on: August 19, 2013, 06:24:31 PM »

Bold are votes where I agree with the ACU. + is a Yes vote, - is a No vote.


1. Keystone XL Pipeline (-)

2. Conservative Alternative Budget (-)

3. Federal Land Management (+)

4. Elimination funding for Economic Development Administration (-)

5. Public-Private Competition (FPI) (-)

6. Elimination of funding for Legal Services Corporation (-)

7. Healthcare Law Litigation (-)

8. DOMA Adherance  (-)

9. Political Science Funding (+)

10. Afghanistan Withdrawal (+)

11. Terror Suspect Trials (-)

12 Missile Defense (+)

13. Public-Private Competition (DoD) (-)

14. Sex-Selective Abortion (-)

15. Project Labor Agreements (+)

16. Science/Renewable Energy Funding (-)

17. Davis-Bacon Enforcement (-)

18. Border Security/Environment (+)

19. Air Service Subsidies (-)

20. Elimination of Community Development Block Grants (-)

21. Healthcare Repeal (-)

22. Offshore Oil and Gas (-)

23. Energy Project Loan Guarantees (+)

24. Welfare Reform Waivers (-)

25. Climate and Water Regulations (-)



2/25 or 8%, same as Norm Dicks (my former Congressman) and Adam Smith as far as my state delegation goes. Also in the same group as Bernie Sanders, Gary Peters, Carl Levin, Ron Kind, Martin Heinrich, and a bunch of Democrats that I don't like.
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« Reply #30 on: August 19, 2013, 06:29:35 PM »

1. +
2. +
3. +
4. +
5. +
6. +
7. +
8. +
9. +
10. -
11. -
12. -
13. +
14. -
15. +
16. +
17. +
18. -
19. +
20. +
21. +
22. +
23. +
24. +
25. +

80%
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« Reply #31 on: August 19, 2013, 06:35:19 PM »

Huh

Several people are counting weirdly here, so I don't know if I didn't explain this well enough or if something else is going on.

My plus votes indicate I agree with the ACU.
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« Reply #32 on: August 19, 2013, 07:27:26 PM »

Huh

Several people are counting weirdly here, so I don't know if I didn't explain this well enough or if something else is going on.

Sorry, I guess I didn't read the OP all the way through.  I put a "+" next to the proposals which I would vote on in the affirmative, not by the ones I agree with the ACU on.

ok. still, that would be 1, 3, 5, 9, 10, 11, 12, and 22, so 8/24.
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« Reply #33 on: August 19, 2013, 07:44:05 PM »

Oh, 8/24.  So that gives me 33%...

Scott Brown (36%)
Henry Cuellar (36%)
Robert Dold (36%)
Lisa Murkowski (36%)
Bill Owens (36%)
Jason Altmire (33%)
Sanford Bishop, Jr. (32%)
Gene Green (32%)
Kathy Hochul (32%)
Olympia Snowe    (32%)
Jim Webb, Jr. (32%)
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« Reply #34 on: August 19, 2013, 07:58:13 PM »

Oh, 8/24.  So that gives me 33%...

Scott Brown (36%)
Henry Cuellar (36%)
Robert Dold (36%)
Lisa Murkowski (36%)
Bill Owens (36%)
Jason Altmire (33%)
Sanford Bishop, Jr. (32%)
Gene Green (32%)
Kathy Hochul (32%)
Olympia Snowe    (32%)
Jim Webb, Jr. (32%)

Huh...

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« Reply #35 on: August 19, 2013, 08:00:46 PM »

Oh, 8/24.  So that gives me 33%...

Scott Brown (36%)
Henry Cuellar (36%)
Robert Dold (36%)
Lisa Murkowski (36%)
Bill Owens (36%)
Jason Altmire (33%)
Sanford Bishop, Jr. (32%)
Gene Green (32%)
Kathy Hochul (32%)
Olympia Snowe    (32%)
Jim Webb, Jr. (32%)

Huh...

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« Reply #36 on: August 19, 2013, 08:50:51 PM »
« Edited: August 19, 2013, 09:06:16 PM by IndyTexas »

29%

1. Domestic Energy Production (ANWR, KXL) - HR 3408 - YEA (+)
2. Conservative Alternative Budget amendment to H Con Res 112 - NAY (—)
3. Federal Land Management (Sportsmen’s Heritage Act) HR 4089 - NO VOTE ( * )
4. Elimination funding for Economic Development Administration - Pompeo Amendment to HR 5326 - NAY (—)
5. Public-Private Competition (FPI) - Huizenga amendment to HR 5326 - NAY (—)
6. Elimination of funding for Legal Services Corporation - Austin Scott amendment to HR 5326. - NAY (—)
7. Healthcare Law Litigation - Blackburn amendment to HR 5326 - NAY (—)
8. DOMA adherence - Huelskamp amendemnt to HR 5326 - NAY (—)
9. NSF Political Science Funding - Flake amendment to HR 5326 - YEA (+)
10. Afghanistan Defense Spending - Lee amendment to HR 4310 - NAY (—)
11. Terror Suspect Trials - Rooney amendment to HR 4310 - NAY (—)
12. Missile Defense -  Polis amendment to HR 4310 - NAY (+)
13. Public-Private Competition (DoD) - Coffman amendment to HR 4310 - YEA (+)
14. Sex-Selection Abortion - HR 3541 - NAY (—)
15. Project Labor Agreements - Grimm amendment to HR 5854 - YEA (—)
16. Science/Renewable Energy Funding - Hultgren amendment to HR 5325 - NAY (—)
17. Davis-Bacon Act - King amendment to HR 5326 - YEA (+)
18. Border Security/Environment - Grijalva amendment to HR 2578 - YEA (—)
19. Air Service Subsidies. - McClintock amendment to HR 5972 - YEA (+)
20. Elimination of Community Development Block Grants - MClintock amendment to HR 5972. - NAY (—)
21. Healthcare Bill Repeal.  HR 6079 - NAY (—)
22. Offshore Oil and Gas - HR 6082 - YEA (+)
23. Energy Project Loan Guarantees - Waxman amendment to HR 6213 - NAY (—)
24. Welfare Reform Waivers - HJ Res 118 - NAY (—)
25. Climate and Water Regulations - HR 3409 - NAY (—)

My kindred spirits:
Jim Costa (D-CA) - 29%
Jerry Costello (D-IL) - 29%
Tim Holden (D-PA) - 29%
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« Reply #37 on: August 19, 2013, 11:07:41 PM »

Possibly 8%, more likely 4%. I might vote with them on #4 (elimination of the EDA - I vaguely remember reading about corruption issues) and I would almost certainly support #19 (removing air subsidies for rural airports)

How people vote on the Essential Air Services act is to me a pretty easy litmus test for whether someone is a bona fide "small government conservative" or simply hates spending money on minorities and the poor and loves spending it on old white country folks. There are many government programs that are bad, but this one is so bad on its face and doesn't even have any compelling redeeming qualities.

You're spending money to pay airlines to fly to cities that can usually be reached by car in a matter of a few hours. So instead of that person driving, they're going to fly there, likely on a regional jet which is one of the most fuel inefficient ways you can travel by air. Example: Victoria, Texas gets EAS service. Houston is roughly 2 hours away driving. So is San Antonio. Both of those cities have major airports with service to just about anywhere you want to go. Why can't the people in Victoria just drive to Houston or San Antonio if they want to fly somewhere?
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« Reply #38 on: August 20, 2013, 12:20:36 AM »

Too many laws to carefully consider, but perhaps a 4%, voting with the ACU on number 19.
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« Reply #39 on: August 20, 2013, 08:34:21 AM »
« Edited: August 20, 2013, 09:08:32 AM by traininthedistance »

Just about almost all of my principles would seem to indicate that I should support cutting funding for rural airports (it is one of the most inefficient uses of transportation dollars imaginable)... but there is the little problem of the Alaskan Bush, where air service is quite literally their only lifeline to the outside world.  That's a situation where this sort of inefficient spending would be justified on basic humanitarian grounds, as well as the principle that we ought to be fostering connection within our country rather than disconnection.

EDIT:  And, of course, if in the course of legislative sausage-making, it turns out that my support for rural air service is what it takes to get rural reps to vote for mass transit funding, that is a tradeoff I will take in a femtosecond.
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« Reply #40 on: August 20, 2013, 09:19:25 AM »
« Edited: August 20, 2013, 09:21:48 AM by Redalgo »

16% (4/25)

This rating is comparable to:

Sen. Mary Landrieu (LA-D)
Rep. Dave Loebsack (IA-D)
Rep. Stephen Lynch (MA-D)
Sen. Mark Pryor (AR-D)
Sen. Debbie Stabenow (MI-D)

In comparison, my state's representatives right now are Sen. Max Baucus (14%), Sen. Jon Tester (4%), and Rep. Steve Daines - who does not yet have a rating.


- 1. Domestic Energy Production (ANWR, KXL) - HR 3408

- 2. Conservative Alternative Budget amendment to H Con Res 112

- 3. Federal Land Management (Sportsmen’s Heritage Act) HR 4089

- 4. Elimination funding for Economic Development Administration - Pompeo Amendment to HR 5326

- 5. Public-Private Competition (FPI) - Huizenga amendment to HR 5326

- 6. Elimination of funding for Legal Services Corporation - Austin Scott amendment to HR 5326.

- 7. Healthcare Law Litigation - Blackburn amendment to HR 5326

+ 8. DOMA adherence - Huelskamp amendemnt to HR 5326

- 9. NSF Political Science Funding - Flake amendment to HR 5326

+ 10. Afghanistan Defense Spending - Lee amendment to HR 4310

- 11. Terror Suspect Trials - Rooney amendment to HR 4310

- 12. Missile Defense -  Polis amendment to HR 4310

X 13. Public-Private Competition (DoD) - Coffman amendment to HR 4310

- 14. Sex-Selection Abortion - HR 3541

- 15. Project Labor Agreements - Grimm amendment to HR 5854

+ 16. Science/Renewable Energy Funding - Hultgren amendment to HR 5325

- 17. Davis-Bacon Act - King amendment to HR 5326

- 18. Border Security/Environment - Grijalva amendment to HR 2578

- 19. Air Service Subsidies. - McClintock amendment to HR 5972

+ 20. Elimination of Community Development Block Grants - MClintock amendment to HR 5972.

- 21. Healthcare Bill Repeal.  HR 6079

- 22. Offshore Oil and Gas - HR 6082

X 23. Energy Project Loan Guarantees

- 24. Welfare Reform Waivers - HJ Res 118

- 25. Climate and Water Regulations - HR 3409
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« Reply #41 on: August 20, 2013, 10:01:27 AM »

Huh

Several people are counting weirdly here, so I don't know if I didn't explain this well enough or if something else is going on.

Sorry, I guess I didn't read the OP all the way through.  I put a "+" next to the proposals which I would vote on in the affirmative, not by the ones I agree with the ACU on.

Oh, I did the reverse...
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« Reply #42 on: August 20, 2013, 03:50:44 PM »

not sure on some of these. probably somewhere around the 50s though.
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« Reply #43 on: August 20, 2013, 04:28:55 PM »

Possibly 8%, more likely 4%. I might vote with them on #4 (elimination of the EDA - I vaguely remember reading about corruption issues) and I would almost certainly support #19 (removing air subsidies for rural airports)

How people vote on the Essential Air Services act is to me a pretty easy litmus test for whether someone is a bona fide "small government conservative" or simply hates spending money on minorities and the poor and loves spending it on old white country folks. There are many government programs that are bad, but this one is so bad on its face and doesn't even have any compelling redeeming qualities.

You're spending money to pay airlines to fly to cities that can usually be reached by car in a matter of a few hours. So instead of that person driving, they're going to fly there, likely on a regional jet which is one of the most fuel inefficient ways you can travel by air. Example: Victoria, Texas gets EAS service. Houston is roughly 2 hours away driving. So is San Antonio. Both of those cities have major airports with service to just about anywhere you want to go. Why can't the people in Victoria just drive to Houston or San Antonio if they want to fly somewhere?

You talk as though only people in urban areas are poor or minorities. By all means cut the subsidies to places where they're not absolutely needed, and move toward transitioning away from it altogether, but just ending it will be hard on some communities.  It's not like urban transportation, including airports, don't have massive federal subsidies too.   
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« Reply #44 on: August 20, 2013, 04:42:48 PM »

Huh

Several people are counting weirdly here, so I don't know if I didn't explain this well enough or if something else is going on.

Sorry, I guess I didn't read the OP all the way through.  I put a "+" next to the proposals which I would vote on in the affirmative, not by the ones I agree with the ACU on.

Oh, I did the reverse...
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« Reply #45 on: August 20, 2013, 05:44:21 PM »

1. -
2. -
3. -
4. -
5. -
6. -
7. -
8. -
9. -
10. +
11. -
12. -
13. -
14. X
15. -
16. -
17. -
18. +
19. -
20. -
21. -
22. -
23. -
24. -
25. -

2\24 = 8%
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« Reply #46 on: August 20, 2013, 06:24:36 PM »

Possibly 8%, more likely 4%. I might vote with them on #4 (elimination of the EDA - I vaguely remember reading about corruption issues) and I would almost certainly support #19 (removing air subsidies for rural airports)

How people vote on the Essential Air Services act is to me a pretty easy litmus test for whether someone is a bona fide "small government conservative" or simply hates spending money on minorities and the poor and loves spending it on old white country folks. There are many government programs that are bad, but this one is so bad on its face and doesn't even have any compelling redeeming qualities.

You're spending money to pay airlines to fly to cities that can usually be reached by car in a matter of a few hours. So instead of that person driving, they're going to fly there, likely on a regional jet which is one of the most fuel inefficient ways you can travel by air. Example: Victoria, Texas gets EAS service. Houston is roughly 2 hours away driving. So is San Antonio. Both of those cities have major airports with service to just about anywhere you want to go. Why can't the people in Victoria just drive to Houston or San Antonio if they want to fly somewhere?

You talk as though only people in urban areas are poor or minorities. By all means cut the subsidies to places where they're not absolutely needed, and move toward transitioning away from it altogether, but just ending it will be hard on some communities.  It's not like urban transportation, including airports, don't have massive federal subsidies too.   

The economic activity generated from a major international airport like DFW or LAX more than justifies spending money on them. Most tax money for airports is used to maintain compliance with safety regulations; or do you oppose being able to pay for baggage screeners and air traffic controllers and radar systems? The landing fees and taxes you pay as part of your ticket price are the bulk of what is keeping your airport up and running.

I never said anything about the only people in urban areas being poor or non-white. My point is that a lot of members of the House will vote against something like, say, HUD grants, because they say it's "wasteful" and then turn around and vote for something like this. Paying for affordable housing, which will be disproportionately used by poor people and by people of color, is "wasteful." Paying commercial airlines - which have never been a model of good business management or financial prudence - to fly to little towns where there's barely any demand for air service to begin with is somehow perfectly justifiable.

West Virginia is an egregious offender. I recall watching a John Stossel special a couple of years ago about how some town in WV gets EAS service even though it's less than 45 minutes away from Washington DC by car. They interviewed flight attendants and ticket agents who said the flight it operated to and from DC usually never had more than one or two people on it - usually the Congressman who lives in that district and whatever staff was accompanying him at any given time.

Full disclosure: I have made use of EAS-subsidized flights in the past, on a flight from Boston to New Hampshire to visit a friend. When I was sitting in the concourse Logan Airport uses for short-haul flights, I noticed that every other passenger was white and appeared rather well-to-do. Why is that? Because who else flies to the town in New Hampshire where Dartmouth College is located? Who else flies to Martha's Vineyard? Who else flies to Bar Harbor? So I got in the tiny propeller plane along with the pilot and my two fellow passengers - a wealthy, retired couple from Jackson Hole, Wyoming who were visiting friends who had bought a vacation house on a lake in NH - and we went off on our merry way, courtesy of the taxpayer.

If you're going to vote to okay something like that and then suggest that someone should have to take a drug test to get a couple hundred dollars worth of food stamps in a month, I can't see how you have any sort of conscience. I'm not going to call you a racist, I'm just going to say that you have a serious amount of contempt for poor people who may or may not be black and Hispanic and see nothing wrong with public money going to frivolities mainly used by wealthy people, who are mostly white.
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« Reply #47 on: August 20, 2013, 07:12:46 PM »

1. Domestic Energy Production (ANWR, KXL) -
2. Conservative Alternative Budget -
3. Federal Land Management (Sportsmen’s Heritage Act)  -
4. Elimination funding for Economic Development Administration  -
5. Public-Private Competition (FPI) -
6. Elimination of funding for Legal Services Corporation -
7. Healthcare Law Litigation -
8. DOMA adherence -
9. NSF Political Science Funding -
10. Afghanistan Defense Spending +
11. Terror Suspect Trials -
12. Missile Defense -
13. Public-Private Competition (DoD) x
14. Sex-Selection Abortion +
15. Project Labor Agreements -
16. Science/Renewable Energy Funding -
17. Davis-Bacon Act -
18. Border Security/Environment -
19. Air Service Subsidies +
20. Elimination of Community Development Block Grants -
21. Healthcare Bill Repeal -
22. Offshore Oil and Gas -
23. Energy Project Loan Guarantees -
24. Welfare Reform Waivers -
25. Climate and Water Regulations -

3/24= 12.5%

Joe Baca (D-CA)-13%
Cedric Richmond (D-LA)-13%
Tim Walz (D-MN)-13%
Max Baucus (D-MT)-12%
Tom Carper (D-DE)-12%
Bob Casey Jr. (D-PA)-12%
Kay Hagan (D-NC)-12%
Ruben Hinojosa Jr. (D-TX)-12%
Tim Ryan (D-OH)-12%
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« Reply #48 on: August 20, 2013, 07:26:45 PM »

1. Domestic Energy Production (ANWR, KXL) +
2. Conservative Alternative Budget +
3. Federal Land Management (Sportsmen’s Heritage Act)  +
4. Elimination funding for Economic Development Administration  +
5. Public-Private Competition (FPI) +
6. Elimination of funding for Legal Services Corporation -
7. Healthcare Law Litigation -
8. DOMA adherence -
9. NSF Political Science Funding -
10. Afghanistan Defense Spending +
11. Terror Suspect Trials -
12. Missile Defense +
13. Public-Private Competition (DoD) +
14. Sex-Selection Abortion -
15. Project Labor Agreements +
16. Science/Renewable Energy Funding -
17. Davis-Bacon Act +
18. Border Security/Environment +
19. Air Service Subsidies +
20. Elimination of Community Development Block Grants -
21. Healthcare Bill Repeal +
22. Offshore Oil and Gas +
23. Energy Project Loan Guarantees +
24. Welfare Reform Waivers +
25. Climate and Water Regulations +

18/25 = 72%
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« Reply #49 on: August 20, 2013, 08:21:23 PM »

I never said anything about the only people in urban areas being poor or non-white.

No, you are claiming that the people who benefit from rural airport service are all wealthy, white people. Your anecdote aside, I don't see why that would be true of rural airports but not large urban airports (that in fact do get a huge amount of federal subsidies quite apart from security and air traffic controllers), unless you believe that only wealthy white people live in places like Greenville, MS or rural Alaska (Martha's Vineyard doesn't have EAS service btw).
I'm fine with not worth spending federal tax money on air travel to places where the roads are hard to get through part of the year or are several hours away from an interstate much less a major airport, but I think calling it a frivolity is a bit much.
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