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« on: August 20, 2013, 10:18:57 PM »
« edited: August 22, 2013, 08:15:46 AM by barfbag »

Continue food stamps to help the food industry and grocery stores.
Welfare recipients must work 100 hours a month.
Maintain federal funding levels for TANF block grants.
Allow churches to provide welfare services along with the state. Help is help.
As of now provide an annual $16.7 billion in farm subsidies for people making less than $750,000.
Turn foreclosed homes into poor houses and homeless shelters.
Allow unemployment benefits to 59 weeks.
Two year term limits for welfare recipients.
Raise minimum wage to $7.85/hour.
Allow churches to register as childcare providers.
Provide school breakfast for low income children.
$70 million for section 8 housing vouchers.
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« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2013, 01:06:39 AM »

Implement a system of (livable) basic income that is unconditional and w/o term limits
Discontinue food stamps, TANF, Social Security, farm subsidies, and the minimum wage
Create a social insurance scheme covering physical and mental health
Examine options for discontinuing or reforming Medicare and Medicaid
Examine options for discontinuing or reforming unemployment benefits
Require each state to ensure all their residents get all their basic material needs met
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« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2013, 01:45:26 AM »
« Edited: August 22, 2013, 02:00:09 AM by shua »

Continue food stamps to help the food industry and grocery stores. That should not be the purpose of food stamps.
Welfare recipients must work 100 hours a week.  That's ridiculous. Seriously? Are people not supposed to have time to sleep, feed the kids and go to church?
Maintain federal funding levels for TANF block grants.  ok.  a big problem with welfare though is that with the various benefits, it can end up being hard for people to get a job or a better job b/c they suddenly lose some of these benefits - so they actually are in a position where they can hardly afford to work. that needs to be fixed.
Allow churches to provide welfare services along with the state. Help is help.  Churches have the ability to serve people in ways the state cannot. Taking funding from the government can compromise that.
As of now provide an annual $16.7 billion in farm subsidies for people making less than $750,000.
Farmers who are anywhere near that successful don't need subsidies. They distort the both the domestic and global market. Farm subsidies should be greatly downsized and reformed - there's a place for conservation and disaster based payments but the rest need to be seriously reconsidered. Meanwhile farm policy should be deregulated so that farmers can grow and sell what they will.  
Turn foreclosed homes into poor houses and homeless shelters. The bank owns a home once it's foreclosed, not the government. Let's try to keep foreclosures from happening so much in the first place.
Allow unemployment benefits to 59 weeks.   ok, jobs are hard to come by.
Two year term limits for welfare recipients.  nah, jobs are hard to come by
Raise minimum wage to $7.85/hour.    jobs are hard to come by, but meh, I guess it wouldn't hurt too much.
Allow churches to register as childcare providers.   of course - I think that's usually allowed, though there might be some silly laws that make it difficult.
Provide school breakfast for low income children.   I think that's generally the case, but sure. no point in trying to educate hungry kids.
$70 million for section 8 housing vouchers.  That would be a drop in the bucket.  Section 8 can be something of a trainwreck and a few more dollars per person wont solve it.
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« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2013, 06:53:31 AM »

Continue food stamps to help the food industry and grocery stores. needy Americans. And while we're at it, end means-testing of the Food Stamp program and let anyone take advantage of it.
Welfare recipients must work 100 hours a week. 100 hours a week? Are you sh**ing me?
Maintain federal funding levels for TANF block grants. Get rid of TANF, go back to the pre-1995 system (AFDC, was it?).
Allow churches to provide welfare services along with the state. Help is help. No. Enact an explicit ban on public monies being provided to religious institutions for any purpose.
As of now provide an annual $16.7 billion in farm subsidies for people making less than $750,000. Farm subsidies should stop going to agribusinesses and really just be limited to family farmers. Someone making $750K a year is not a 'family farmer.'
Turn foreclosed homes into poor houses and homeless shelters. Nothing like creating an incubator for crime and destitution. Foreclosed homes should be purchased under eminent domain, refurbished, and become public housing that is accessible for all. We need a serious effort to expand public housing in this country and end the stigma associated with living in 'the projects' by making 'the projects' into universally accessible, well kept, and better than private sector housing.
Allow unemployment benefits to 59 weeks. Sounds good.
Two year term limits for welfare recipients. Doesn't sound good.
Raise minimum wage to $7.85/hour. Double the minimum wage to $14.50 an hour.
Allow churches to register as childcare providers. No. Create a universal childcare program.
Provide school breakfast for low income children. Provide school breakfast for all children.
$70 million for section 8 housing vouchers. Provide available housing for all.
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« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2013, 08:16:09 AM »

Continue food stamps to help the food industry and grocery stores. That should not be the purpose of food stamps.
Welfare recipients must work 100 hours a week.  That's ridiculous. Seriously? Are people not supposed to have time to sleep, feed the kids and go to church?
Maintain federal funding levels for TANF block grants.  ok.  a big problem with welfare though is that with the various benefits, it can end up being hard for people to get a job or a better job b/c they suddenly lose some of these benefits - so they actually are in a position where they can hardly afford to work. that needs to be fixed.
Allow churches to provide welfare services along with the state. Help is help.  Churches have the ability to serve people in ways the state cannot. Taking funding from the government can compromise that.
As of now provide an annual $16.7 billion in farm subsidies for people making less than $750,000.
Farmers who are anywhere near that successful don't need subsidies. They distort the both the domestic and global market. Farm subsidies should be greatly downsized and reformed - there's a place for conservation and disaster based payments but the rest need to be seriously reconsidered. Meanwhile farm policy should be deregulated so that farmers can grow and sell what they will.  
Turn foreclosed homes into poor houses and homeless shelters. The bank owns a home once it's foreclosed, not the government. Let's try to keep foreclosures from happening so much in the first place.
Allow unemployment benefits to 59 weeks.   ok, jobs are hard to come by.
Two year term limits for welfare recipients.  nah, jobs are hard to come by
Raise minimum wage to $7.85/hour.    jobs are hard to come by, but meh, I guess it wouldn't hurt too much.
Allow churches to register as childcare providers.   of course - I think that's usually allowed, though there might be some silly laws that make it difficult.
Provide school breakfast for low income children.   I think that's generally the case, but sure. no point in trying to educate hungry kids.
$70 million for section 8 housing vouchers.  That would be a drop in the bucket.  Section 8 can be something of a trainwreck and a few more dollars per person wont solve it.

Sorry 100 hours a month!
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« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2013, 08:23:42 AM »

Continue food stamps to help the food industry and grocery stores. needy Americans. And while we're at it, end means-testing of the Food Stamp program and let anyone take advantage of it.
Welfare recipients must work 100 hours a week. 100 hours a week? Are you sh**ing me?
Maintain federal funding levels for TANF block grants. Get rid of TANF, go back to the pre-1995 system (AFDC, was it?).
Allow churches to provide welfare services along with the state. Help is help. No. Enact an explicit ban on public monies being provided to religious institutions for any purpose.
As of now provide an annual $16.7 billion in farm subsidies for people making less than $750,000. Farm subsidies should stop going to agribusinesses and really just be limited to family farmers. Someone making $750K a year is not a 'family farmer.'
Turn foreclosed homes into poor houses and homeless shelters. Nothing like creating an incubator for crime and destitution. Foreclosed homes should be purchased under eminent domain, refurbished, and become public housing that is accessible for all. We need a serious effort to expand public housing in this country and end the stigma associated with living in 'the projects' by making 'the projects' into universally accessible, well kept, and better than private sector housing.
Allow unemployment benefits to 59 weeks. Sounds good.
Two year term limits for welfare recipients. Doesn't sound good.
Raise minimum wage to $7.85/hour. Double the minimum wage to $14.50 an hour.
Allow churches to register as childcare providers. No. Create a universal childcare program.
Provide school breakfast for low income children. Provide school breakfast for all children.
$70 million for section 8 housing vouchers. Provide available housing for all.

All kids would be able to attend breakfast, but low-income families would be my reason for starting it. I don't think it's the government's job to make sure we have homes, but your idea on foreclosed homes was basically what I had in mind. At the beginning I meant to say 100 hours a month, not week.
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« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2013, 12:09:07 PM »

Continue food stamps to help the food industry and grocery stores.

Treble them, and make them usable in restaurants, or tipping, and also for red wine.

Welfare recipients must work 100 hours a month.

I wouldn't be averse to 100/month of some type of activity - certainly not 'work', but maybe essay writing, traditional psychoanalysis, pottery/macrame, or training in grass roots political activism.

Maintain federal funding levels for TANF block grants.

Don't know what that is, but treble it.

Allow churches to provide welfare services along with the state. Help is help.

Fนck that.

As of now provide an annual $16.7 billion in farm subsidies for people making less than $750,000.

You mean farmers or you mean anyone making less than $750,000?

Turn foreclosed homes into poor houses and homeless shelters.

Nope.  Buy up all the foreclosed homes with Fed fiat, create $50/hour union jobs dismantling them.  In addition, build luxurious homeless shelters in urban centers with heavy staffing of unemployed liberal arts majors at $75,000/year.

Allow unemployment benefits to 59 weeks.

No time limit.

Two year term limits for welfare recipients.[/quote

Hah, no time limit you jerk.


You're headed in the right direction.  $15/hour for backwaters, $20 for worthwhile localities (economically viable cities, etc).

Allow churches to register as childcare providers.

Yeah, especially the catholic priest.

Provide school breakfast for low income children.

Super idea.  Just make sure the cooks are unionized and making $50/hour.

$70 million for section 8 housing vouchers.

treble it!

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« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2013, 08:57:48 PM »

Continue food stamps to help the food industry and grocery stores.

Treble them, and make them usable in restaurants, or tipping, and also for red wine.

Welfare recipients must work 100 hours a month.

I wouldn't be averse to 100/month of some type of activity - certainly not 'work', but maybe essay writing, traditional psychoanalysis, pottery/macrame, or training in grass roots political activism.

Maintain federal funding levels for TANF block grants.

Don't know what that is, but treble it.

Allow churches to provide welfare services along with the state. Help is help.

Fนck that.

As of now provide an annual $16.7 billion in farm subsidies for people making less than $750,000.

You mean farmers or you mean anyone making less than $750,000?

Turn foreclosed homes into poor houses and homeless shelters.

Nope.  Buy up all the foreclosed homes with Fed fiat, create $50/hour union jobs dismantling them.  In addition, build luxurious homeless shelters in urban centers with heavy staffing of unemployed liberal arts majors at $75,000/year.

Allow unemployment benefits to 59 weeks.

No time limit.

Two year term limits for welfare recipients.[/quote

Hah, no time limit you jerk.


You're headed in the right direction.  $15/hour for backwaters, $20 for worthwhile localities (economically viable cities, etc).

Allow churches to register as childcare providers.

Yeah, especially the catholic priest.

Provide school breakfast for low income children.

Super idea.  Just make sure the cooks are unionized and making $50/hour.

$70 million for section 8 housing vouchers.

treble it!



We couldn't afford your ideas at 100% taxation on everyone.
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