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pbrower2a
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« on: August 23, 2013, 09:29:34 AM »

If Democrats can't steal elections, they'll sue to win.

This isn't really about elections, its the federal government (DOJ) stepping into state government telling them what they can/cannot do even though the courts said it was OK. That is tyrannical, Eric Holder would be sitting in jail right now if he was actually accountable for any of the unconstitutional things he's done. Its sad that the federal government and the executive branch have so much power now to put their political beliefs and force it into opposition/other party (in this case, Texas). It would be the same as a republican administration sueing California over something the democrats decide to do in their state.

So, you're just going to assert that the Supreme Court struck down all of the VRA, even after it was pointed out that Section 2 is still on the books and valid law.  Kind of hard to have a discussion about an issue when you can just ignore basic facts like that.

Also, if you're going to be that sanctimonious about the Constitution, let me point out that Texas is violating the 14th and 15th Amendments by practicing racial discrimination and voter suppression, not just the VRA.

I never meant to assert that the whole VRA is gone, only section 4 got thrown out, so basically they left it up to those states (or congress can step in as well, I believe). But they will have to prove that Texas violated section 2. I don't believe it is a race issue, and that's my opinion, of course minority groups are less likely to have ID's, but that does not mean it was race intended, that is something they will have to prove.

Here are the 14th and 15th amendments:

14th: Defines citizenship, contains the Privileges or Immunities Clause, the Due Process Clause, the Equal Protection Clause, and deals with post-Civil War issues.

15th: Prohibits the denial of suffrage based on race, color, or previous condition of servitude

I am very much constitutional, but and I don't think its right to sue over these amendments over a voter ID law. Voter ID "suppresses" only a very small fraction (like 1/20th of eligible voters) of the population, something that wouldn't even put a dent in most elections. Most people who wouldn't have voter IDs anyway either don't care about politics/don't vote, or are so poor that they are in very bad condition (unfortunately). This also affects republican voters as well (just not as much), so it will be hard for the DOJ to try and prove the republicans in Texas wrong. I just don't necessarily believe that implementing a government voter ID is racial, its been done before.

1/20 of all eligible voters is 5% of the vote. In 2012, a loss of 5% of the Presidential vote all from Barack Obama would have allowed President Obama to be elected with a smaller number of votes than Mitt Romney in a 272-268 split of the electoral vote (President Obama won Colorado by a margin of 5.36% in reality, but would have won the state by a bare margin that would have enticed various lawsuits). If you think American politics ugly now, just think how they would be under such circumstances).
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