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Prudishness
 
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Oversensitivity
 
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Elitism/Priggishness
 
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Overbearing/annoying hatred of Southerners
 
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Tendency to take right-wing positions on economic issues
 
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Slacktivism
 
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All of the Above
 
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« on: August 24, 2013, 12:18:42 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2013, 12:19:59 AM »

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« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2013, 12:29:40 AM »

Slacktivism of course.
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« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2013, 12:44:41 AM »

Tendency to take right-wing positions on economic issues.
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« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2013, 12:45:46 AM »

how right wing they are
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« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2013, 12:49:24 AM »

Willingness to vote for right-wing Republicans that do not match their own views particularly.
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« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2013, 12:50:42 AM »

All of the above, of course.
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« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2013, 04:35:14 AM »

Tendency to take right-wing positions on economic issues.

All the others are not actual problems.
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« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2013, 05:07:22 AM »

Oversensitivity slightly edges out Elitism/Priggishness for the win.  With Overbearing/annoying hatred of Southerners coming in a distant third.
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« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2013, 05:18:52 AM »

All the others are not actual problems.

Actually, all of them except prudishness are at least minor problems, and even prudishness can be a problem depending on the situation, but none of them are really as bad as all that among forum Democrats (relative to other groups of people or other groups of Democrats) other than the tendency to take right-wing positions on economic issues.
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« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2013, 05:50:38 AM »

Oversensitivity/Slacktivism describe the same phenomenon where there is a rush to be offended when someone (doesn't matter what party the support) makes a questionable non-progressive comment.
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« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2013, 06:32:18 AM »

All the others are not actual problems.

Actually, all of them except prudishness are at least minor problems, and even prudishness can be a problem depending on the situation, but none of them are really as bad as all that among forum Democrats (relative to other groups of people or other groups of Democrats) other than the tendency to take right-wing positions on economic issues.

I guess it depends how you define "problem". While all the traits cited by TNF are annoying to some extent, they are merely personal characteristics and are not actually issues affecting the course of policy (except possibly dislike for southerners, if taken to really extreme levels). I'd rather have all democrats be oversensitive, snobbish, slacktivist prudes, than have a single one of them be economically right-wing.
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« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2013, 06:43:11 AM »

Coddled riches masquerading as the down-and-out to satisfy their own emotions, telling everyone how it is and ought to be lest they be branded a heretic and assassin of all that is Good™. All of the poll options merge together to some degree.
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« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2013, 08:00:10 AM »

Absolutely slacktivism.
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« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2013, 08:36:03 AM »

Ya'llz is prudes.
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« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2013, 09:00:05 AM »
« Edited: August 24, 2013, 09:04:34 AM by DemPGH, V.P. »

In RL, right wing economic positions. Not an issue on the forum left, IMO.

On the forum, oversensitivity, which is one of the main reasons for why there are factions and groups here amongst the left, I think.

There is some elitism, but it's within an acceptable range, I think.

I don't really even sense prudishness, not in its literal definition. Maybe a hint of it amongst some conservative religious folks, but not overall.
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« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2013, 09:28:18 AM »

Write-in: Extreme arrogance about how "everything is trending Democratic due to demographic armageddon!1!1" and how Hillary's going to win in 2016 in 45/50 states and get 60+ Senators along with a Democratic House, etc.

The others I either haven't really seen or don't really care about (Nix summed up my thoughts on them fairly well).
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« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2013, 11:32:41 AM »

Prudishness - less annoying than the corresponding right-wing tendency to whine about "political correctness"
Oversensitivity - not limited to forum Democrats... not even close
Elitism - something something Hegel blah blah blah (point scored!... but I'll confess that I prefer it this way)
Hatred of Southerners - the only poster here who legitimately hates Southerners (to the point where it verges on bigotry) is a Republican
Tendency to take right-wing positions on economic issues - not actually much of a problem on the forum, although I don't think it's always been this way... I can only think of a couple of prominent forum Democrats who match this description
Slacktivisim - it's the internet (duh)


This.

There's only one other thing I'd like to add, and it's a question to those of you who complain about "prudishness"/the so-called "prude brood": do you consider Kitteh and/or 20RP12 to be "prudes"? 
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« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2013, 11:58:36 AM »

20RP12 is currently a wannabe. We'll see where he is next week. Drj isn't a prude at all. He's one of the least[/i prudish posters. ]He doesn't treat women as children and he  often makes comments and start threads that are quite explicit.
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« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2013, 12:07:51 PM »

Drj isn't a prude at all. He's one of the least prudish posters. She doesn't treat women as children and often makes comments and start threads that are quite explicit.

(fixed a couple bad tags)

Well, yes, that is exactly my point.  Do you now see how nonsensical and inappropriate the "prude" label is, as it is used on Atlas?
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« Reply #20 on: August 24, 2013, 12:13:33 PM »

20RP12 is currently a wannabe. We'll see where he is next week. Drj isn't a prude at all. He's one of the least[/i prudish posters. ]He doesn't treat women as children and he  often makes comments and start threads that are quite explicit.

You have a reputation to maintain, I see. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #21 on: August 24, 2013, 12:27:54 PM »

For me it is their prudishness.
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« Reply #22 on: August 24, 2013, 12:35:18 PM »

Drj isn't a prude at all. He's one of the least prudish posters. She doesn't treat women as children and often makes comments and start threads that are quite explicit.

(fixed a couple bad tags)

Well, yes, that is exactly my point.  Do you now see how nonsensical and inappropriate the "prude" label is, as it is used on Atlas?
Thanks for fixing my tags. Posting from my phone sucks. There is indeed a prude  brood. That dj is not on the team doesn't mean the team doesn't exist. A trans identity is not in any way a basis of membership on the team. Why would you think that it is? If you don't why would you pick him as an example?
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« Reply #23 on: August 24, 2013, 12:43:48 PM »

All the others are not actual problems.

Actually, all of them except prudishness are at least minor problems, and even prudishness can be a problem depending on the situation, but none of them are really as bad as all that among forum Democrats (relative to other groups of people or other groups of Democrats) other than the tendency to take right-wing positions on economic issues.

I guess it depends how you define "problem". While all the traits cited by TNF are annoying to some extent, they are merely personal characteristics and are not actually issues affecting the course of policy (except possibly dislike for southerners, if taken to really extreme levels). I'd rather have all democrats be oversensitive, snobbish, slacktivist prudes, than have a single one of them be economically right-wing.

You honestly don't see how that sort of attitude can affect policy?  It may be affect policy in a way you like, but it affects policy.

I for one wasn't aware drj preferred to be known as "she."  Being trans doesn't seem to be enough to assume that, or at least some of the trans posters here don't seem to make a big deal of it in reference to themselves.
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« Reply #24 on: August 24, 2013, 12:45:26 PM »

Drj isn't a prude at all. He's one of the least prudish posters. She doesn't treat women as children and often makes comments and start threads that are quite explicit.

(fixed a couple bad tags)

Well, yes, that is exactly my point.  Do you now see how nonsensical and inappropriate the "prude" label is, as it is used on Atlas?
Thanks for fixing my tags. Posting from my phone sucks. There is indeed a prude  brood. That dj is not on the team doesn't mean the team doesn't exist. A trans identity is not in any way a basis of membership on the team. Why would you think that it is? If you don't why would you pick him as an example?

Define "prude brood" then.  I'm now more than ever pretty confident the term is not being used in a consistent manner, to describe any sort of consistent behavior.  As far as I can tell it seems to mostly get thrown at people for the crime of talking about gender in a feminist and/or trans-positive manner-  basically, dudes who agree with drj.  

If there's actually something else going on, please explain to me in detail, as if I were an idiot.  
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