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MyRescueKittehRocks
JohanusCalvinusLibertas
Junior Chimp
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« on: August 25, 2013, 10:59:54 AM »

No. Having a unified right is what is best for Atlasian politics.
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MyRescueKittehRocks
JohanusCalvinusLibertas
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2013, 06:48:36 PM »

I understand many think I'm of the far right all because of ONE wedge social issue. Its simply not true. My very first act in this game was a firm endorsement of a centrist against a myriad of leftist candidates for president and you know what? He won. I firmly believe the Federalist cause can rise above the heights the RPP reached. That's why I'm staying as one.
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MyRescueKittehRocks
JohanusCalvinusLibertas
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2013, 07:43:46 PM »

Most of my comments on marriage were in response to the intolerance many here have towards traditional marriage and the Christian worldview. Plus why should the Atlasian senate have final say on an issue that should be handled on the regional level in a game like this?

As for gun control you also need to look at when I've talked about support for background checks and comprehensive education in the proper use of said firearms. Its totally unfair to cherrypick that statement when the other statements exist and that was in response to TNF and his view in taking away the guns of law enforcement.

The loading nuclear waste and shooting it into the sun thing...... for an enviromentalist as most leftists such as yourself are, whatever happened to an all of the above idea to solutions to environmental problems?

With regards to evolution you would rather believe a crackpot like Darwin blindly instead of men like George Washington Carver, Copernicus, Galileo, Issac Newton, Ron and Rand Paul, Kelvin, Faraday, Pascal and Pasteur amongst many others like DiVinci

How is repealing the direct election of senators or the income tax bizarre?
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MyRescueKittehRocks
JohanusCalvinusLibertas
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2013, 08:21:05 PM »

Most of my comments on marriage were in response to the intolerance many here have towards traditional marriage and the Christian worldview. Plus why should the Atlasian senate have final say on an issue that should be handled on the regional level in a game like this?

As for gun control you also need to look at when I've talked about support for background checks and comprehensive education in the proper use of said firearms. Its totally unfair to cherrypick that statement when the other statements exist and that was in response to TNF and his view in taking away the guns of law enforcement.

The loading nuclear waste and shooting it into the sun thing...... for an enviromentalist as most leftists such as yourself are, whatever happened to an all of the above idea to solutions to environmental problems?

With regards to evolution you would rather believe a crackpot like Darwin blindly instead of men like George Washington Carver, Copernicus, Galileo, Issac Newton, Ron and Rand Paul, Kelvin, Faraday, Pascal and Pasteur amongst many others like DiVinci

How is repealing the direct election of senators or the income tax bizarre?

You didn't seriously just compare Charles Darwin (who ftr was NOT the first person to talk about evolution) to the Pauls?

Not just the Pauls (who are accomplished medical doctors) but George Washington Carver and a whole bunch of scientific greats. Compared to them Darwin is nothing but a crackpot.
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MyRescueKittehRocks
JohanusCalvinusLibertas
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2013, 03:20:57 PM »



Far from it, you're legislating contrary to Christianity.


Why is that a problem, exactly?

Martin Luther King Jr in his treatise on civil disobedience said something like this.

" The answer lies in the fact that there are two types of laws: just and unjust. I would be the first to advocate obeying just laws. One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws. I would agree with St. Augustine that ‘an unjust law is no law at all."

Simply put a law that is not one that affirms the laws of God is an unjust law.
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MyRescueKittehRocks
JohanusCalvinusLibertas
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2013, 04:04:33 PM »



Far from it, you're legislating contrary to Christianity.


Why is that a problem, exactly?

Martin Luther King Jr in his treatise on civil disobedience said something like this.

" The answer lies in the fact that there are two types of laws: just and unjust. I would be the first to advocate obeying just laws. One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws. I would agree with St. Augustine that ‘an unjust law is no law at all."

Simply put a law that is not one that affirms the laws of God is an unjust law.

That implies that you're using Christianity as the basis for determining whether a law is just in the first place, but it doesn't answer the question as to why that would be a good idea.

What do you want to know?
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MyRescueKittehRocks
JohanusCalvinusLibertas
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2013, 05:32:04 PM »

The core of human law and governance goes back to men like Moses,Noah and Hammurabi. How do laws like "You shall not murder " or "You shall not steal" which transcend even Jewish and by extension Christian jurisprudence sound like extremist sentiment? These laws like the ones that they came with form much of the legal system that the west added to have been tested and tried and proven as just and equitable. Marriage laws are amongst them as well.
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MyRescueKittehRocks
JohanusCalvinusLibertas
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2013, 12:13:43 PM »


My views are anything but horrifying. Denying the right to keep and bear arms is horrifying. Killing babies in the womb is horrifying. Denying gays marriage is perfectly fine.
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MyRescueKittehRocks
JohanusCalvinusLibertas
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2013, 06:48:06 PM »

Guys lets get along I don't care if you're gay or straight, right wing or left wing, white or black, as long as you like pizza and support marriage equality then you're alright with me.

I like pizza! Grin

Pizza is definitely good. ; P
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MyRescueKittehRocks
JohanusCalvinusLibertas
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2013, 08:52:30 PM »

Forcing it on the regions is not a settled issue. You vote the Labor party line on that and I'll never vote for you again. Ever.

Alrighty Smiley

If you can't vote for me because I continue to support the right of people to love who they love, not my problem. I'll continue to vote the Labor/Progressive Union/Liberal/pretty much everyone else except you and JCL line on those issues, and I will continue to fight for social tolerance and give same-sex couples the same equal, fundamental, human rights as everyone else, because that is what I believe as a Christian who believes in tolerance. I am just as willing to lose votes for that belief as you are for yours.

Remember SJoyce I gave you my fourth preference. I was hoping to build a broad coalition inspite of my view on this.  issue. Yes I do oppose same sex marriage on Biblical grounds. I could get into the New Testament prohibition on the gay choice but I don't think you guys want to see me quote Romans 1:18-end of the chapter or 1 Corinthians 6:9 or 1Timothy 1:9-10 or Jude verse 7 but many on the left won't consider the words of the Apostle Paul. His words are endorsed by Jesus because Jesus via the Holy Spirit gave those words to Paul.

I do oppose bullying of anyone because of anything but for me to stand by and let the left have full power through the federal government over social issues like this would not only make me a bad Christian but a bad player of this game. Why shouldn't the regions answer this question? Is this government afraid of losing power over any issue when said issue is better handled closer to home. Centeralization on family issues doesn't work and is destructive of the liberty we all seek. My question is why should the left get to run roughshot on these sensitive issues without any conservative views being remotely considered?
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