Cris Survey National HQ - Denver, CO

[Senator Cris]

And is with great pleasure that I announce the opening of the HQ of the Cris Survey in Denver, CO.
This HQ will be composed by the results of all our surveys, so you can make an historical research among the old polls.
Whenever there will be a new poll there will be a new message that indicates the opening of the poll.

Good reading with Cris Survey.

[Senator Cris]

OFFICIAL RESULTS OF THE AT-LARGE SENATE ELECTIONS POLL BY REGIONS.

The survey was conducted from August 16 to August 20.

The map

In Red the region with advantage of Senator Napoleon
In Blue the region with advantage of MW Governor Maxwell
In Green the region with advantage of Senator Gass3268
In Gray the region with parity

If the At-Large Senate election were today, who is your first preference? – GENERAL

In parentheses the result without undecided

MW Governor Maxwell (Fed-OK) 17,9% (18,4%)
Senator Napoleon (Lab-CA) 15,4% (15,8%)
Former ME Governor Tmthforu94 (Fed-KS) 15,4% (15,8%)
Former ME Assemplyman JCL (Fed-IN) 12,8% (13,2%)
IDS Emperor Sjoyce (LiT-FL) 12,8% (13,2%)
Senator Polnut (Lab-MA) 10,3% (10,5%)
Senator Gass3268 (Lab-WI) 7,7% (7,9%)
Pacific Speaker Xahar (NMAM-CA) 5,1% (5,3%)
Other / None of the Above 0% (0%)
Uncecided 2,6%

If the At-Large Senate election were today, who is your first preference? – PACIFIC

In parentheses the result without undecided

Senator Napoleon (Lab-CA) 50% (50%)
Pacific Speaker Xahar (NMAM-CA) 33,3% (33,3%)
Former ME Governor Tmthforu94 (Fed-KS) 16,7% (16,7%)
Senator Polnut (Lab-MA) 0% (0%)
Senator Gass3268 (Lab-WI) 0% (0%)
MW Governor Maxwell (Fed-OK) 0% (0%)
Former ME Assemplyman JCL (Fed-IN) 0% (0%)
IDS Emperor Sjoyce (LiT-FL) 0% (0%)
Other / None of the Above 0% (0%)
Uncecided 0%

If the At-Large Senate election were today, who is your first preference? – MIDWEST

In parentheses the result without undecided

MW Governor Maxwell (Fed-OK) 33,3% (33,3%)
Former ME Governor Tmthforu94 (Fed-KS) 33,3% (33,3%)
Senator Napoleon (Lab-CA) 16,7% (16,7%)
Senator Polnut (Lab-MA) 16,7% (16,7%)
Senator Gass3268 (Lab-WI) 0% (0%)
Former ME Assemplyman JCL (Fed-IN) 0% (0%)
IDS Emperor Sjoyce (LiT-FL) 0% (0%)
Pacific Speaker Xahar (NMAM-CA) 0% (0%)
Other / None of the Above 0% (0%)
Uncecided 0%

If the At-Large Senate election were today, who is your first preference? – MIDEAST

In parentheses the result without undecided

Senator Gass3268 (Lab-WI) 30% (30%)
Senator Napoleon (Lab-CA) 20% (20%)
Former ME Assemplyman JCL (Fed-IN) 20% (20%)
Senator Polnut (Lab-MA) 10% (10%)
MW Governor Maxwell (Fed-OK) 10% (10%)
IDS Emperor Sjoyce (LiT-FL) 10% (10%)
Former ME Governor Tmthforu94 (Fed-KS) 0% (0%)
Pacific Speaker Xahar (NMAM-CA) 0% (0%)
Other / None of the Above 0% (0%)
Uncecided 0%

If the At-Large Senate election were today, who is your first preference? – IDS

In parentheses the result without undecided

Former ME Governor Tmthforu94 (Fed-KS) 27,3% (27,3%)
Former ME Assemplyman JCL (Fed-IN) 27,3% (27,3%)
IDS Emperor Sjoyce (LiT-FL) 27,3% (27,3%)
Senator Polnut (Lab-MA) 9,1% (9,1%)
MW Governor Maxwell (Fed-OK) 9,1% (9,1%)
Senator Napoleon (Lab-CA) 0% (0%)
Senator Gass3268 (Lab-WI) 0% (0%)
Pacific Speaker Xahar (NMAM-CA) 0% (0%)
Other / None of the Above 0% (0%)
Uncecided 0%

If the At-Large Senate election were today, who is your first preference? – NORTHEAST

In parentheses the result without undecided

MW Governor Maxwell (Fed-OK) 50% (60%)
Senator Polnut (Lab-MA) 16,7% (20%)
IDS Emperor Sjoyce (LiT-FL) 16,7% (20%)
Senator Napoleon (Lab-CA) 0% (0%)
Senator Gass3268 (Lab-WI) 0% (0%)
Former ME Governor Tmthforu94 (Fed-KS) 0% (0%)
Former ME Assemplyman JCL (Fed-IN) 0% (0%)
Pacific Speaker Xahar (NMAM-CA) 0% (0%)
Other / None of the Above 0% (0%)
Uncecided 16,7%

[Senator Cris]

New poll (Opinion of the Atlasian political parties) is active.
This poll is for all registered voters and will run for 4 days.

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=178364.0

[Senator Cris]

OFFICIAL RESULTS - OPINION OF ATLASIAN POLITICAL PARTIES


The survey was conducted from August 27 to August 31.

Total voters = 49

What is your opinion of the Federalist Party?

Approve 61,2%
Disapprove 22,5%
Undecided/Not Sure 16,3%

What is your opinion of the Labor Party?

Approve 35,4%
Disapprove 54,2%
Undecided/Not Sure 10,4%

What is your opinion of the Liberal Party?

Approve 28,6%
Disapprove 42,9%
Undecided/Not Sure 28,6%

What is your opinion of the NM-AM?

Approve 29,2%
Disapprove 68,7%
Undecided/Not Sure 2,1%

What is your opinion of the Light Party?

Approve 45,8%
Disapprove 33,3%
Undecided/Not Sure 20,8%

What is your opinion of the Civic Union?

Approve 45,8%
Disapprove 33,3%
Undecided/Not Sure 20,8%

What is your opinion of the Democratic Republican Party?

Approve 26,5%
Disapprove 36,7%
Undecided/Not Sure 36,7%

[PJ]

I would be interested in seeing this poll periodically, especially considering how Light and CU don't exist any more. 

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

I'm quite pleased by these numbers.  The momentum is certainly there for us to begin a new leftist party.

[Adam Griffin]

I'm quite pleased by these numbers.  The momentum is certainly there for us to begin a new leftist party.

Stop calling yourselves 'leftist' and 'progressive' - you all clearly are not. It's nothing more than the latest reincarnate of "Super duper centrist, we want to broker power because we're just as powerhungry as everyone else and feel slighted by some other party" Party, so start calling yourselves that. Grow up, admit that you guys lost the battle for the left and assimilate if you are actual leftists. Labor is clearly the most superior party in this game, and of course the haters are going to hate. You guys are grasping for straws, and the only power you have is to sink your so-called ideology and hand a victory to the right - soo 'leftist'!

61% approve of the party that seeks to abolish the minimum wage and Social Security but hides it by pretending that it stands for nothing? Wow, I guess this sample size is either skewed heavily to the right like all polls or too many have let personal issues supersede their ideological positions. None of this is new, though: the haters have been prognosticating our demises for months and months now, yet the electorate always has seems to disagree in the end. I'm sure plenty of those people will be part of this new 'leftist' party, though.

[TNF]

I'm quite pleased by these numbers.  The momentum is certainly there for us to begin a new leftist party.

Come on, Mr. DLC

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

I'm quite pleased by these numbers.  The momentum is certainly there for us to begin a new leftist party.

Stop calling yourselves 'leftist' and 'progressive' - you all clearly are not. It's nothing more than the latest reincarnate of "Super duper centrist, we want to broker power because we're just as powerhungry as everyone else and feel slighted by some other party" Party, so start calling yourselves that. Grow up, admit that you guys lost the battle for the left and assimilate if you are actual leftists. Labor is clearly the most superior party in this game, and of course the haters are going to hate. You guys are grasping for straws, and the only power you have is to sink your so-called ideology and hand a victory to the right - soo 'leftist'!

61% approve of the party that seeks to abolish the minimum wage and Social Security but hides it by pretending that it stands for nothing? Wow, I guess this sample size is either skewed heavily to the right like all polls or too many have let personal issues supersede their ideological positions. None of this is new, though: the haters have been prognosticating our demises for months and months now, yet the electorate always has seems to disagree in the end. I'm sure plenty of those people will be part of this new 'leftist' party, though.

Haha, I take it you don't like the results, eh?

Tell me this, asshole.  Just who the fuck died and made you king?  Who gave you the right to decide who is progressive and who is not?  More people approve of the Federalist than Labor probably because they don't exist for the sole purpose of pushing an ideology.  Federalists care about governing more than riling people up or trying to alienate themselves for the sake of purity.

The numbers are simply not on your side anymore.  Unless Nix or DemPGH are on the ballot in two months, a Federalist has a very good chance of getting elected.  And now Labor is one of the most hated parties in the game.  Facts are facts.  I've already said I'd vote for Nix or DemPGH, and yes, there is even a chance that I will support other sensible Laborites if they run, but people like you are not making me any more likely to support them at all.  And if you're okay with the fact that you being a huge cunt is aiding your opponents, then great!  I suppose we don't have a problem here.  I'm sure the Federalists don't, either.

[TNF]

I'm quite pleased by these numbers.  The momentum is certainly there for us to begin a new leftist party.

Stop calling yourselves 'leftist' and 'progressive' - you all clearly are not. It's nothing more than the latest reincarnate of "Super duper centrist, we want to broker power because we're just as powerhungry as everyone else and feel slighted by some other party" Party, so start calling yourselves that. Grow up, admit that you guys lost the battle for the left and assimilate if you are actual leftists. Labor is clearly the most superior party in this game, and of course the haters are going to hate. You guys are grasping for straws, and the only power you have is to sink your so-called ideology and hand a victory to the right - soo 'leftist'!

61% approve of the party that seeks to abolish the minimum wage and Social Security but hides it by pretending that it stands for nothing? Wow, I guess this sample size is either skewed heavily to the right like all polls or too many have let personal issues supersede their ideological positions. None of this is new, though: the haters have been prognosticating our demises for months and months now, yet the electorate always has seems to disagree in the end. I'm sure plenty of those people will be part of this new 'leftist' party, though.

Haha, I take it you don't like the results, eh?

Tell me this, asshole.  Just who the fuck died and made you king?  Who gave you the right to decide who is progressive and who is not?  More people approve of the Federalist than Labor probably because they don't exist for the sole purpose of pushing an ideology.  Federalists care about governing more than riling people up or trying to alienate themselves for the sake of purity.

The numbers are simply not on your side anymore.  Unless Nix or DemPGH are on the ballot in two months, a Federalist has a very good chance of getting elected.  And now Labor is one of the most hated parties in the game.  Facts are facts.  I've already said I'd vote for Nix or DemPGH, and yes, there is even a chance that I will support other sensible Laborites if they run, but people like you are not making me any more likely to support them at all.  And if you're okay with the fact that you being a huge cunt is aiding your opponents, then great!  I suppose we don't have a problem here.  I'm sure the Federalists don't, either.

[PJ]

I'm quite pleased by these numbers.  The momentum is certainly there for us to begin a new leftist party.

Stop calling yourselves 'leftist' and 'progressive' - you all clearly are not. It's nothing more than the latest reincarnate of "Super duper centrist, we want to broker power because we're just as powerhungry as everyone else and feel slighted by some other party" Party, so start calling yourselves that. Grow up, admit that you guys lost the battle for the left and assimilate if you are actual leftists. Labor is clearly the most superior party in this game, and of course the haters are going to hate. You guys are grasping for straws, and the only power you have is to sink your so-called ideology and hand a victory to the right - soo 'leftist'!

61% approve of the party that seeks to abolish the minimum wage and Social Security but hides it by pretending that it stands for nothing? Wow, I guess this sample size is either skewed heavily to the right like all polls or too many have let personal issues supersede their ideological positions. None of this is new, though: the haters have been prognosticating our demises for months and months now, yet the electorate always has seems to disagree in the end. I'm sure plenty of those people will be part of this new 'leftist' party, though.

Wow. If you want to call yourselves the main leftist party, be the main leftist party. Your platform currently describes you as socialist. I have become increasingly annoyed by this hyper partisanship. There are many members of your party that are to your right, Windjammer and Talleyrand to name a few. Not to mention that TNF, one of your most prominent members, opposes the widely accepted leftist idealism of gun control. However, when someone refuses to engage in the two party system or hyper partisanship, you throw around names such as whiny, centrist, reactionary, etc. I am fed up with it. Not to mention that the Federalists, who I have also criticized for their part in the two-party system, have not behaved as reactionary as you describe them. Their leadership has endorsed progressive taxation, and their current most prominent presidential candidate has endorsed keeping social security and raising the minimum wage. I simply don't see what makes you think you have the right to choose our ideology That is our right as a party.

[Maxwell]

Ugh why does this petulant sh**t have to invade every single thread. I just wanted to look at some god damn numbers.

[Adam Griffin]

Haha, I take it you don't like the results, eh?

Tell me this, asshole.  Just who the fuck died and made you king?  Who gave you the right to decide who is progressive and who is not?  More people approve of the Federalist than Labor probably because they don't exist for the sole purpose of pushing an ideology.  Federalists care about governing more than riling people up or trying to alienate themselves for the sake of purity.

I did, motherfker, when I built the new left. Thankfully, I don't have to worry about its management anymore, and thankfully, you'll never have to, either.

More people "approve" of the Federalist Party because a) the Federalists always vote in mass in these polls and b) c**nts like you give them support out of one side of your mouth while attempting to cling to some semblance of "leftism" out of the other side. It's fking pathetic.

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Oh, really? The numbers aren't on our side anymore? Care to explain why Xahar is a Senator-elect and not SJoyce? Care to explain how we won the past two special at-large Senate elections? The last regional special election? The last Presidential election in which most like-minded c**nts like you spitefully voted for a guy with no experience? Nix was losing in every poll in May & June. Polnut lost to Maxwell in Senate polling. Xahar had no shot in hell and it very well appeared that 3 Federalists could have been elected in August. Yet it continues.

Don't get me wrong: there are good people in the little party you and others have formed. You, however, are a fuing opportunist that panders, placates and pretends to be some hero of the left when in reality, you are a spineless, non-ideological twirp who obviously can't be bothered to articulate any message other than "I don't like the other parties / Labor's too extreme / Labor actually has positions and stands by them". You'd do better to sum up your ideology by saying, "I want to be in control again".

At least I'm a wolf that wears its skin proudly. You're a fuing wolf in sheep's clothing, just like several others in this god-damned game who have been around far longer than I and are far more detrimental to the primary aspects of a political simulator - ideology, policy and action. It's people like you who blow smoke up the asses of people who don't know any better and actually convince them that you care about them. It's sick.

All of the sociopaths, narcissists and those who chronically friend new recruits and message them consistently for votes and loyalty in this game almost universally fall into the purview of you and the countless parties that have come before that mimic they same thing that is being constructed now: watered-down, barely-center-of-left individuals who'd rather build personal friendships with people than actually run on something of substance.

Wow. If you want to call yourselves the main leftist party, be the main leftist party. Your platform currently describes you as socialist. I have become increasingly annoyed by this hyper partisanship. There are many members of your party that are to your right, Windjammer and Talleyrand to name a few. Not to mention that TNF, one of your most prominent members, opposes the widely accepted leftist idealism of gun control. However, when someone refuses to engage in the two party system or hyper partisanship, you throw around names such as whiny, centrist, reactionary, etc. I am fed up with it. Not to mention that the Federalists, who I have also criticized for their part in the two-party system, have not behaved as reactionary as you describe them. Their leadership has endorsed progressive taxation, and their current most prominent presidential candidate has endorsed keeping social security and raising the minimum wage. I simply don't see what makes you think you have the right to choose our ideology That is our right as a party.

We are the main leftist party. We earned that title. We built our party from the ground up and stood for something, and were rewarded handsomely. We don't take kindly to panderers and people who stand for nothing in order to achieve the quick and easy victory. For far too long in this game, twatters such as the one above controlled the actions and maneuvering of the political atmosphere. This isn't real life and this isn't America. You of all people - who chronically try to recruit "disenfranchised people" from our party (how's that working for you, BTW?) - can't act all offended when we respond to your posturing and movements. Don't expect to try to snipe our members and not hear from us.

Also, you haven't been around long enough to understand the dynamics about which I speak. You're most likely in the pockets of those who truly are the problem - bet I could name at least 3 of the 5 people with whom you most frequently chat via PM.

[TNF]

Griffin for God-Emperor of All Mankind

[Maxwell]

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Oh, really? The numbers aren't on our side anymore? Nix was losing in every poll in May & June. Polnut lost to Maxwell in Senate polling. Xahar had no shot in hell and it very well appeared that 3 Federalists could have been elected in August. Yet it continues.

Umm... Every poll acknowledged Matt didn't get the 50% and as a result, most Xahar votes would go to Labor and it was a likely result that Nix would win even trailing that first round. I know facts are inconvenient (like when you said Gass had won the At-Large Senate race with the most votes of any candidate ever and countless other times) whenever you like to spew your Labor talking points, but let's be clear on that: the polls were dead right on the first round, and there was very few head to head polls.

You are right on that other numbers based stuff (Polnut was never really down/was going to win the whole time, and Xahar benefited very much from good Labor strategy and 100% turnout from his party), and I will not even talk about that other stuff you said because it's unreadable.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

How dare you insult The People's Party!

[Adam Griffin]

I know facts are inconvenient (like when you said Gass had won the At-Large Senate race with the most votes of any candidate ever and countless other times)

I could be wrong, but you perhaps also received the second most first preferences of any Senator in a regular at-large election.

I found that in five seconds. Facts are inconvenient to me? More empty proclamations from yet another Federalist, I see.

[Adam Griffin]

How dare you insult The People's Party!

You yourself said the two-party system was here to stay. I'm just including the parties that existed in recent memory that do not fit into that dichotomy. No offense meant to you guys.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

All of the sociopaths, narcissists and those who chronically friend new recruits and message them consistently for votes and loyalty in this game almost universally fall into the purview of you and the countless parties that have come before that mimic they same thing that is being constructed now: watered-down, barely-center-of-left individuals who'd rather build personal friendships with people than actually run on something of substance.
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Not sure what that run-on attempt at a sentence means, but are any of those sociopaths and narcissists involved in derailing threads every chance they get in order to destroy any one who stands in the way of the advancement of their pet projects? Because I can't stand it when that happens.

[PJ]

I wonder what Cris thinks about all this junk at his HQ.

Anyway Griffin, I can tell from the bolded red words that you don't like me and I'm willing to accept that. But I'd like to clarify something. I am not the puppet of some older player. The idea to found the Social Democratic Party was mine and mine alone.

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

I'm quite pleased by these numbers.  The momentum is certainly there for us to begin a new leftist party.

Stop calling yourselves 'leftist' and 'progressive' - you all clearly are not. It's nothing more than the latest reincarnate of "Super duper centrist, we want to broker power because we're just as powerhungry as everyone else and feel slighted by some other party" Party, so start calling yourselves that. Grow up, admit that you guys lost the battle for the left and assimilate if you are actual leftists. Labor is clearly the most superior party in this game, and of course the haters are going to hate. You guys are grasping for straws, and the only power you have is to sink your so-called ideology and hand a victory to the right - soo 'leftist'!

61% approve of the party that seeks to abolish the minimum wage and Social Security but hides it by pretending that it stands for nothing? Wow, I guess this sample size is either skewed heavily to the right like all polls or too many have let personal issues supersede their ideological positions. None of this is new, though: the haters have been prognosticating our demises for months and months now, yet the electorate always has seems to disagree in the end. I'm sure plenty of those people will be part of this new 'leftist' party, though.

Haha, I take it you don't like the results, eh?

Tell me this, asshole.  Just who the fuck died and made you king?  Who gave you the right to decide who is progressive and who is not?  More people approve of the Federalist than Labor probably because they don't exist for the sole purpose of pushing an ideology.  Federalists care about governing more than riling people up or trying to alienate themselves for the sake of purity.

The numbers are simply not on your side anymore.  Unless Nix or DemPGH are on the ballot in two months, a Federalist has a very good chance of getting elected.  And now Labor is one of the most hated parties in the game.  Facts are facts.  I've already said I'd vote for Nix or DemPGH, and yes, there is even a chance that I will support other sensible Laborites if they run, but people like you are not making me any more likely to support them at all.  And if you're okay with the fact that you being a huge cunt is aiding your opponents, then great!  I suppose we don't have a problem here.  I'm sure the Federalists don't, either.

Thanks for proving that you have absolutely nothing to offer but trolling and memes.  You've once again proven that your only purpose on this site is to get a rise out of people.  If there were any doubts about that, let all suspicions be confirmed.

Haha, I take it you don't like the results, eh?

Tell me this, asshole.  Just who the fuck died and made you king?  Who gave you the right to decide who is progressive and who is not?  More people approve of the Federalist than Labor probably because they don't exist for the sole purpose of pushing an ideology.  Federalists care about governing more than riling people up or trying to alienate themselves for the sake of purity.

I did, motherfker, when I built the new left. Thankfully, I don't have to worry about its management anymore, and thankfully, you'll never have to, either.

More people "approve" of the Federalist Party because a) the Federalists always vote in mass in these polls and b) c**nts like you give them support out of one side of your mouth while attempting to cling to some semblance of "leftism" out of the other side. It's fking pathetic.

Contrary to what your big ego would have have you believe, the Labor Party does not have a monopoly on leftism.  No one anointed you "King of the left," and if you've deluded yourself enough to believe that, you're even more arrogant than I thought.  When I voted in this poll, I didn't base my opinions on ideology - heck, if I did, I would have voted 'positive' for the Liberals.  The Liberal Party is no longer relevant, which is why I voted the other way.  I voted 'positive' for the Federalists because their leaders understand that parties are for governing in addition to having values.  Labor has failed to understand that leadership involves working with others, which is why I gave it a negative rating.  Until Labor gets off its high horse and people like you pull their heads out of their ass, I don't see mine and others' view of your party changing in the near future.

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The Federalists have five seats in the Senate, now.  One more seat, and they'll have an outright majority.  How dare you try and claim victory in the elections when it's becoming more evident day-by-day that your party's days in power are numbered.

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Hey, numbnuts, if I only cared about being in control, I wouldn't have resigned my Senate seat.  My priority in this game was never to be some 'symbol of the left,' it was to have fun, debate, and propose ideas - not to engage in some worthless dickwaving contest like you and others have.  When one group is hellbent on ruining the game to look good for their fellow partisan zombies, the game loses its meaning, and the group guilty of that should suffer some electoral consequences, hence why I demonstrated my opposition by vowing to oppose most of the people in your party.  I'll continue to support Laborites who I believe make the game better, but I will not feed your party's addiction to power and bragging rights.  You people are the same reason I've called out folks like Oldiesfreak and krazen for thinking with their avatars and not with their brains.  If calling out people whose ideas and attitudes stem from the mainstream or civil discourse is inconsistent in your own little world, then so be it.  I don't have to sit here and justify why I am a progressive, and I don't see why I should.  All I'll say is that the very reason my avatar is green right now is to protest something our real-life president is doing that I do not consider 'progressive' by any sense of the word.

You would do well to remember that it was progressives, liberal and moderate, who helped Nix and DemPGH win that narrow victory in June.  If you think acting the way you are is going to be helpful long-term, then keep it up, because only your opponents will benefit.  And you'll continue to look like an asshole, no matter what the outcome.

[TNF]

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Except that I actually have gotten quite a bit of legislation passed and enacted since I was elected to the Senate in June, something that I'm not quite sure you can say yourself. While you were running the Heavy Party/Moderate Hero Union, I was introducing detailed legislation on reforming Atlasia's labor code, creating a framework for legalizing controlled substances and sex work, and most recently introduced a bill filling a crucial gap in our civil rights law. Hit me up whenever you manage to get done building a kinder, gentler moderate hero party with no ideology, no credible candidates, and no chance of ever winning the Presidency and/or the Senate in this game.

[Supersonic]

Wow, not sure about the voting demographics, but I'm very surprised to see how poorly Labour is seen in Atlasia. Great results for the Federalist Party however. I was not expecting these figures at all.

Ugh why does this petulant sh**t have to invade every single thread. I just wanted to look at some god damn numbers.

Also this. Reading the above, it's quite lol-worthy.

[Adam Griffin]

I wonder what Cris thinks about all this junk at his HQ.

Anyway Griffin, I can tell from the bolded red words that you don't like me and I'm willing to accept that. But I'd like to clarify something. I am not the puppet of some older player. The idea to found the Social Democratic Party was mine and mine alone.

The red wasn't aimed at you, PJ, hence the:

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Except that I actually have gotten quite a bit of legislation passed and enacted since I was elected to the Senate in June, something that I'm not quite sure you can say yourself. While you were running the Heavy Party/Moderate Hero Union, I was introducing detailed legislation on reforming Atlasia's labor code, creating a framework for legalizing controlled substances and sex work, and most recently introduced a bill filling a crucial gap in our civil rights law. Hit me up whenever you manage to get done building a kinder, gentler moderate hero party with no ideology, no credible candidates, and no chance of ever winning the Presidency and/or the Senate in this game.

Precisely. Anyone who pays at least a modest amount of attention to Senate affairs would know that TNF is perhaps the most accomplished Senator of this session (or maybe Napoleon, there's no real ranking system). Just because you don't like him or got pissy because he wanted to offer amendments to your education bill does not mean he has nothing to offer.

And since I usually don't directly jump to calling people vulgar names until a little bitch like you does it first, I'm just going to address the notion of our loss of seats and cooperation. Six was untenable and everyone knew that - four were at-large and NO PARTY EVER has won four at-large Senate seats. Polnut dropped out as the last minute - otherwise, it'd be Nap, Gass and Polnut instead of Nap, Gass and Xahar. We worked with the external cards that were dealt to us and we yet again pulled out the best case scenario.

This all ties together. Anyone who'd like to see what's been done over the past two months should bother to read the Govt board. Labor has got A LOT of things done - we governed quite well with our temporary and untenable majority.

And you're right: Labor doesn't cooperate with parties - our individuals cooperate with individuals. In every region, Labor's been at the table and most people know great Laborites. That's our party: good people. it's assholes like me that paved the way for them to get elected over moderate hero BS.

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

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Except that I actually have gotten quite a bit of legislation passed and enacted since I was elected to the Senate in June, something that I'm not quite sure you can say yourself. While you were running the Heavy Party/Moderate Hero Union, I was introducing detailed legislation on reforming Atlasia's labor code, creating a framework for legalizing controlled substances and sex work, and most recently introduced a bill filling a crucial gap in our civil rights law. Hit me up whenever you manage to get done building a kinder, gentler moderate hero party with no ideology, no credible candidates, and no chance of ever winning the Presidency and/or the Senate in this game.

TNF, you have done a lot even though you are a pompous little dick sometimes, but let me tell you this: I have been in this game a lot longer than you have, junior.  I've been an NE Rep, Speaker, Senator, and Governor all within two years, serving multiple terms in each position.  And I didn't have to carpetbag to a region more kind to my ideology to do it.  But, as Hagrid once said, there is a time to stop, and that's part of the reason I did.  Yes, my dad died and you and Napoleon pushed me off the edge, so I quit to escape the insanity somewhat.  (And now I see how well that went!)  And even though electoral politics here is behind me now, I still make the effort to stay active in this game even though I thought I wouldn't have been able to.  As for my record, I've overhauled the NE's education system, helped establish a public bank, and successfully advocated for a number of progressive reforms, some big and some small, all while maintaining a surplus in my region to boot.  Most of things I fought for appealed to folks across the board, which is why I was able to beat people both to my right and to my left when I ran for reelection each time.  If you want to continue with this dickwaving contest, I'll keep the list going, but it isn't accomplishing much.

I wonder what Cris thinks about all this junk at his HQ.

Anyway Griffin, I can tell from the bolded red words that you don't like me and I'm willing to accept that. But I'd like to clarify something. I am not the puppet of some older player. The idea to found the Social Democratic Party was mine and mine alone.

The red wasn't aimed at you, PJ, hence the:

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Except that I actually have gotten quite a bit of legislation passed and enacted since I was elected to the Senate in June, something that I'm not quite sure you can say yourself. While you were running the Heavy Party/Moderate Hero Union, I was introducing detailed legislation on reforming Atlasia's labor code, creating a framework for legalizing controlled substances and sex work, and most recently introduced a bill filling a crucial gap in our civil rights law. Hit me up whenever you manage to get done building a kinder, gentler moderate hero party with no ideology, no credible candidates, and no chance of ever winning the Presidency and/or the Senate in this game.

Precisely. Anyone who pays at least a modest amount of attention to Senate affairs would know that TNF is perhaps the most accomplished Senator of this session (or maybe Napoleon, there's no real ranking system). Just because you don't like him or got pissy because he wanted to offer amendments to your education bill does not mean he has nothing to offer.

And since I usually don't directly jump to calling people vulgar names until a little bitch like you does it first, I'm just going to address the notion of our loss of seats and cooperation. Six was untenable and everyone knew that - four were at-large and NO PARTY EVER has won four at-large Senate seats. Polnut dropped out as the last minute - otherwise, it'd be Nap, Gass and Polnut instead of Nap, Gass and Xahar. We worked with the external cards that were dealt to us and we yet again pulled out the best case scenario.

This all ties together. Anyone who'd like to see what's been done over the past two months should bother to read the Govt board. Labor has got A LOT of things done - we governed quite well with our temporary and untenable majority.

And you're right: Labor doesn't cooperate with parties - our individuals cooperate with individuals. In every region, Labor's been at the table and most people know great Laborites. That's our party: good people. it's assholes like me that paved the way for them to get elected over moderate hero BS.

Keep in mind that two of those people in the second list you mentioned - Napoleon and Polnut - are well to the center of yourself and others in your party.  They are also both, more often than not, far more pleasant than you are.  Two very respected Federalists got elected, Tmth and Maxwell, all because of what they've done in the past and because their ideas are well in line with the electorate.  I think we can all agree that people, regardless of party, can win if they appeal to the people they want to vote for them.  But that doesn't give either party the right to anoint itself as some "God of the left" or "God of the right" or whatever, which is exactly what you're doing by thumbing your nose at other leftist parties that have slightly different ideas from your own.  I would never vote for a person like you at all, not just because of your ideas, but because of your attitude.  That is just as important to a party as their platform: class.  You have none.