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Grumpier Than Uncle Joe
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« on: September 03, 2013, 12:08:10 PM »
Well?
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« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2013, 12:37:30 PM »
« Edited: September 03, 2013, 07:37:58 PM by I Should Live in Salt »
Probably passes in the Senate fairly easily (although I'm not sure if they'll quite get to 60 yet).

I think both the Democratic and the GOP leadership will pull out all the of stops in an effort to get it through the House but it's tough to imagine them pulling it off. The alliance between the Obama haters/anti-war lefties will be a tough one to break in this case.
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« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2013, 12:38:08 PM »
I see and I hope you see the game that is going to get played. First we will do the strikes then all of a dudden Obama will say we must put  troops on the ground and then we have 20,000 people there and we a wasting money there for 10 years.

Hell during that span we might go to Iran for we can have our Iraq-Afghanistan all over again
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« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2013, 12:44:52 PM »
I wonder how team Obama will spin a split vote, because I truly believe it's going down in the House.
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« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2013, 03:39:27 PM »
No war for oil!
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« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2013, 03:42:05 PM »
None of our business
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« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2013, 04:36:40 PM »

They don't have any oil. 
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« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2013, 04:43:07 PM »
It'll pass both.
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« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2013, 04:50:02 PM »
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« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2013, 04:54:33 PM »
I thought it would pass the Senate, but it looks after today like it won't...

The House is a lost cause..
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« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2013, 04:58:16 PM »

They do, but not enough to export.  Besides, maybe they would be an oil exporter once we sell them on the wonders of fracking.
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« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2013, 05:14:37 PM »
Quote from: True Federalist on September 03, 2013, 04:58:16 PM

They do, but not enough to export.  Besides, maybe they would be an oil exporter once we sell them on the wonders of fracking.

I don't really think the war is about oil, but I'll play the card as it fits in a debate with the other side. My main concern is our intelligence. After Iraq, are we ready to trust our intelligence? Intelligence aside, I believed there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq because we sold them weapons.
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« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2013, 05:15:09 PM »
Quote from: Downnice on September 03, 2013, 12:38:08 PM
I see and I hope you see the game that is going to get played. First we will do the strikes then all of a dudden Obama will say we must put  troops on the ground and then we have 20,000 people there and we a wasting money there for 10 years.

Hell during that span we might go to Iran for we can have our Iraq-Afghanistan all over again

You mean like the 20,000 ground troops we have in Libya?

Nah, even if sending in ground forces were a sensible option, which it is not, there's no way it would happen.
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« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2013, 05:38:15 PM »
Regardless, we need to stop thinking that just because we dont like what another country does doesnt mean that we have to commit ourselves to fixing it.

We NEED to understand that our continued intervention overseas is only going to put us further at risk for attacks in the future and serves to undermine our relationship with the nations of the world. Sure we have the most powerful military, but does that mean we have to go meddling in every dispute across the world? Honestly, this is getting out of control, and despite the rhetoric, both parties continue to support this awful policy.
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« Reply #14 on: September 03, 2013, 06:08:13 PM »
« Edited: September 03, 2013, 06:16:07 PM by Former Moderate »
A Pew Research Poll suggests support for military action in Syria is at 29%. That's about the percentage of Americans who supported the Vietnam War ... in 1971.

I cannot fathom how a military action can take place with such low support.
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« Reply #15 on: September 03, 2013, 06:09:57 PM »
Following public opinion, the Syria Resolution will ultimately be defeated in both chambers. 
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« Reply #16 on: September 03, 2013, 06:28:05 PM »
I haven't watched them yet but I hear the hearings with Kerry and Hagel were confusing and overall pretty disastrous.
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« Reply #17 on: September 03, 2013, 07:14:51 PM »
Quote from: I Should Live in Salt on September 03, 2013, 06:28:05 PM
I haven't watched them yet but I hear the hearings with Kerry and Hagel were confusing and overall pretty disastrous.

lol what? Kerry was dominating.
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« Reply #18 on: September 03, 2013, 07:18:04 PM »
Part of the reason for collecting such weapons is a response to not knowing what the U.S. will do next.
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« Reply #19 on: September 03, 2013, 07:26:32 PM »
Quote from: I Should Live in Salt on September 03, 2013, 06:28:05 PM
I haven't watched them yet but I hear the hearings with Kerry and Hagel were confusing and overall pretty disastrous.

Kerry: Let me be as clear as I know how, we will absolutely not send in ground troops  ... unless for some reason we need to.
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« Reply #20 on: September 03, 2013, 07:27:19 PM »
House will probably fall along similar lines as the Amash-Conyers vote.

Senate will also pass it. There's enough hawk-ish Republicans to make up for the Democrats with integrity who will vote no.
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« Reply #21 on: September 03, 2013, 07:40:57 PM »
Quote from: shua on September 03, 2013, 07:26:32 PM
Quote from: I Should Live in Salt on September 03, 2013, 06:28:05 PM
I haven't watched them yet but I hear the hearings with Kerry and Hagel were confusing and overall pretty disastrous.

Kerry: Let me be as clear as I know how, we will absolutely not send in ground troops  ... unless for some reason we need to.

Classic Kerry!
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« Reply #22 on: September 03, 2013, 08:17:25 PM »
I think it will narrowly pass the Senate, but fail in the House. And I hope for the sake of this country that we don't intervene in any Syrian conflicts.
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« Reply #23 on: September 03, 2013, 08:24:24 PM »
The current draft of the resolution is getting criticized for not being restrictive enough.  *gulp*
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« Reply #24 on: September 03, 2013, 08:31:42 PM »
Quote from: Scott on September 03, 2013, 08:24:24 PM
The current draft of the resolution is getting criticized for not being restrictive enough.  *gulp*
It should be criticized for that, no?
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