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« on: March 02, 2005, 08:28:35 AM »

Just seeing whether the party allegiances hold up 110 years ago...

Personally, I've never liked the guy too much.

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« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2005, 01:13:19 PM »

Mostly positive here.
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« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2005, 10:49:12 PM »

Greatest President in U.S. History!
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« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2005, 10:50:59 PM »

Positive.

Hate the tariffs though.
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« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2005, 12:32:02 AM »

He was a great man. I voted Positive.
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« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2005, 03:02:22 PM »

Positive.

Hate the tariffs though.

That's what generally pushed me over to the negative side.
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« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2005, 03:39:46 PM »

Just seeing whether the party allegiances hold up 110 years ago...

Personally, I've never liked the guy too much.



Yes, but you'd get very different results for Teddy.
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« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2005, 07:31:56 PM »

Negative.
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« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2005, 04:59:05 PM »

What do I think? It's the administration most similar to the current one. From tax cuts to business support to foreign adventures. It's also one well-studied by Rove because it set the stage for a generation of conservatism, with the presidency only interrupted by Wilson.
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« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2005, 04:26:55 PM »

Undecided (mainly because I'm not really a McKinley expert), but I tilt positive.
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« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2005, 04:35:00 PM »

What do I think? It's the administration most similar to the current one. From tax cuts to business support to foreign adventures. It's also one well-studied by Rove because it set the stage for a generation of conservatism, with the presidency only interrupted by Wilson.

What taxes did McKinley cut? He raised tariffs, and there was no income tax at that time.
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« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2005, 11:52:09 PM »

What do I think? It's the administration most similar to the current one. From tax cuts to business support to foreign adventures. It's also one well-studied by Rove because it set the stage for a generation of conservatism, with the presidency only interrupted by Wilson.

What taxes did McKinley cut? He raised tariffs, and there was no income tax at that time.

The Dingley Tariff of 1897 actually authorized McKinley to negotate tariff-reduction treaties. You are correct that it had the opposite effect.
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« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2005, 01:07:18 AM »

Very Positive. As PBrunsel has said in other threads he led us into the Industrial Revolution and made us a Super Power
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« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2005, 04:53:15 AM »

What do I think? It's the administration most similar to the current one. From tax cuts to business support to foreign adventures. It's also one well-studied by Rove because it set the stage for a generation of conservatism, with the presidency only interrupted by Wilson.

By what definition does Theodore Roosevelt consitute a conservative? Or even Taft, if you wish?
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« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2005, 01:11:37 PM »

Compared to Wilson, they were reactionaries.
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« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2005, 01:40:23 PM »

The three of them are still grouped as the Progressive Presidents, you know?
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« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2005, 02:08:54 PM »

Hate him.
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« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2005, 02:19:02 PM »

Compared to Wilson, they were reactionaries.

Do you know about their actual policies? Taft was very progressive- his administration broke up Standard Oil, and prosecuted more trusts than TR ever did. Taft himself was a conservationist. If you're talking ideology, Wilson was far more conservative (in modern terms) than Taft or TR.
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« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2005, 03:58:49 PM »

Compared to Wilson, they were reactionaries.

Do you know about their actual policies? Taft was very progressive- his administration broke up Standard Oil, and prosecuted more trusts than TR ever did. Taft himself was a conservationist. If you're talking ideology, Wilson was far more conservative (in modern terms) than Taft or TR.

Wilson raised the top rate from 7% to over 70% in just a few years.

TR did not oppose all monopolies, but did want to regulate them. I don't like him either. He and Taft both hated the Constitution.
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« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2005, 06:10:37 PM »

What do I think? It's the administration most similar to the current one. From tax cuts to business support to foreign adventures. It's also one well-studied by Rove because it set the stage for a generation of conservatism, with the presidency only interrupted by Wilson.

By what definition does Theodore Roosevelt consitute a conservative? Or even Taft, if you wish?

The Presidential challenge from the Democrats was from Bryan (1896, 1900, 1908), and Debs made a lot of noise from the Socialists (1904, 1908, 1912). Those challengers had far more aggressive reform messages than TR or Taft. TR and Taft borrowed some of the less-radical reforms espoused by Bryan in his initial run, but the overall policies helped maintain a status quo by comparison to what their opponents sought.
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« Reply #20 on: April 09, 2005, 04:00:24 AM »

Compared to Wilson, they were reactionaries.

Do you know about their actual policies? Taft was very progressive- his administration broke up Standard Oil, and prosecuted more trusts than TR ever did. Taft himself was a conservationist. If you're talking ideology, Wilson was far more conservative (in modern terms) than Taft or TR.

Wilson raised the top rate from 7% to over 70% in just a few years.

TR did not oppose all monopolies, but did want to regulate them. I don't like him either. He and Taft both hated the Constitution.

TR was the first president to side with the workers rather than the bosses when he threatened to have the army occupy the coal mine in question. That doesn't look like much these days, but don't forget that it constituted the first act of its kind. Taft may not have been the most innovative president, but he actually conserved more wildlife than TR and busted more trusts. However, whereas TR and Taft didn't oppose monopolies and distinguished between good and bad trusts, Wilson opposed monopolies altogether. You're probably upset about Wilson's income tax, but he also introduced such "Stalinist" measures as child-labor laws, which haven't even been around for a 100 years! Harding ended the progressive era, NOT Wilson!
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« Reply #21 on: April 09, 2005, 04:33:51 AM »

Compared to Wilson, they were reactionaries.

Do you know about their actual policies? Taft was very progressive- his administration broke up Standard Oil, and prosecuted more trusts than TR ever did. Taft himself was a conservationist. If you're talking ideology, Wilson was far more conservative (in modern terms) than Taft or TR.

Wilson raised the top rate from 7% to over 70% in just a few years.

TR did not oppose all monopolies, but did want to regulate them. I don't like him either. He and Taft both hated the Constitution.

TR was the first president to side with the workers rather than the bosses when he threatened to have the army occupy the coal mine in question. That doesn't look like much these days, but don't forget that it constituted the first act of its kind. Taft may not have been the most innovative president, but he actually conserved more wildlife than TR and busted more trusts. However, whereas TR and Taft didn't oppose monopolies and distinguished between good and bad trusts, Wilson opposed monopolies altogether. You're probably upset about Wilson's income tax, but he also introduced such "Stalinist" measures as child-labor laws, which haven't even been around for a 100 years! Harding ended the progressive era, NOT Wilson!

Are child labor laws interestate commerce to?
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« Reply #22 on: April 18, 2005, 09:46:31 PM »

I have read somewhat on McKinley.

He was a soldier, a lawyer, a Congressman, a Governor, and a President.

He was a brilliant man.

My impression of him is positive. 

He would more often than not during his career side with the public good rather than with private interests.   
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« Reply #23 on: April 19, 2005, 02:29:37 PM »

I played him in a 2nd grade President's Parade

Of COURSE, positive
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« Reply #24 on: April 25, 2005, 03:36:10 PM »

I think pretty positivly of him.
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