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« on: September 14, 2013, 12:09:13 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2013, 12:10:08 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2013, 12:10:24 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2013, 12:11:51 PM »

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« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2013, 12:20:46 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2013, 12:33:29 PM »

I assume you two also support the draft as well? It is basically the same thing as a Union forcing people to join and forcing them to pay Union dues.
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« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2013, 12:34:58 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2013, 12:38:35 PM »

I assume you two also support the draft as well? It is basically the same thing as a Union forcing people to join and forcing them to pay Union dues.

No, it's not basically the same thing at all. People are requiring that, if you want to seek employment somewhere, you have to join the union. It's not grabbing people out of their homes.

Anyways, I oppose right-to-be-a-free-rider laws.
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« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2013, 12:42:36 PM »

I assume you two also support the draft as well? It is basically the same thing as a Union forcing people to join and forcing them to pay Union dues.

No, it's not basically the same thing at all. People are requiring that, if you want to seek employment somewhere, you have to join the union. It's not grabbing people out of their homes.

Anyways, I oppose right-to-be-a-free-rider laws.
If the employer wants his employees to be unionized, then he has that right as the owner. But where does the Union have the right to force an individual not associated with the Union to join? Can I get one decent argument for an opponent of right-to-work legislation on why it is moral and acceptable for a Union to force individuals to join, besides “it’s for their own good” or “because they can” as responses?
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« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2013, 12:47:00 PM »

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« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2013, 12:47:54 PM »

I assume you two also support the draft as well? It is basically the same thing as a Union forcing people to join and forcing them to pay Union dues.

No, it's not basically the same thing at all. People are requiring that, if you want to seek employment somewhere, you have to join the union. It's not grabbing people out of their homes.

Anyways, I oppose right-to-be-a-free-rider laws.
If the employer wants his employees to be unionized, then he has that right as the owner. But where does the Union have the right to force an individual not associated with the Union to join? Can I get one decent argument for an opponent of right-to-work legislation on why it is moral and acceptable for a Union to force individuals to join, besides “it’s for their own good” or “because they can” as responses?

Here you go. From the notoriously socialist and anti-freedom publication Reason, no less.
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« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2013, 12:49:02 PM »

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« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2013, 12:56:02 PM »

I assume you two also support the draft as well? It is basically the same thing as a Union forcing people to join and forcing them to pay Union dues.

No, it's not basically the same thing at all. People are requiring that, if you want to seek employment somewhere, you have to join the union. It's not grabbing people out of their homes.

Anyways, I oppose right-to-be-a-free-rider laws.
If the employer wants his employees to be unionized, then he has that right as the owner. But where does the Union have the right to force an individual not associated with the Union to join? Can I get one decent argument for an opponent of right-to-work legislation on why it is moral and acceptable for a Union to force individuals to join, besides “it’s for their own good” or “because they can” as responses?

Here you go. From the notoriously socialist and anti-freedom publication Reason, no less.
Thank You; interesting article. As I said earlier, I support an employer’s right to mandate his employees to join a Union, and I oppose any attempt by conservatives to curtail that employer’s right. What I am arguing against is the Unions themselves forcing employers to implement this, though.
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« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2013, 01:06:04 PM »

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« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2013, 01:09:55 PM »

Only a right wing Democrat would support such an idea.
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« Reply #17 on: September 14, 2013, 01:12:01 PM »

Only a right wing Democrat would support such an idea.

And yet I am radical by U.S. standards and not a Democrat in large part because they reject socialism.
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« Reply #18 on: September 14, 2013, 01:12:38 PM »

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« Reply #19 on: September 14, 2013, 02:08:50 PM »

Opposed vigorously. In fact, every employed individual should be required to be a member of their respective union(s).
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« Reply #20 on: September 14, 2013, 02:18:11 PM »

I assume you two also support the draft as well? It is basically the same thing as a Union forcing people to join and forcing them to pay Union dues.

No, it's not basically the same thing at all. People are requiring that, if you want to seek employment somewhere, you have to join the union. It's not grabbing people out of their homes.

Anyways, I oppose right-to-be-a-free-rider laws.
If the employer wants his employees to be unionized, then he has that right as the owner. But where does the Union have the right to force an individual not associated with the Union to join? Can I get one decent argument for an opponent of right-to-work legislation on why it is moral and acceptable for a Union to force individuals to join, besides “it’s for their own good” or “because they can” as responses?
So not only do you support scabbing, you also support company unions?
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« Reply #21 on: September 14, 2013, 02:20:21 PM »

Probably one of the worst possible laws.


Being a member of an Union should be a constitutionnal right. If people want to support economical regression, yeah, they should support right to work laws.

I mean, you know, Popular Front in France, if there wasn't a general strike after Blum's reelection, social progress during this period would have been seriously weakened.


 
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« Reply #22 on: September 14, 2013, 02:41:18 PM »

As sceptical as I am about unions, if an employer and a union agree that all/certain employees have to join a union, that's their business. Employees shouldn't be allowed to duck around the agreement.
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« Reply #23 on: September 14, 2013, 03:00:12 PM »

As sceptical as I am about unions, if an employer and a union agree that all/certain employees have to join a union, that's their business. Employees shouldn't be allowed to duck around the agreement.
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« Reply #24 on: September 14, 2013, 03:24:52 PM »

Depends on the state and the industries/professions involved.

Contrary to popular narrative, unions did not single-handedly "kill" manufacturing in states like Michigan and Pennsylvania, and making those states right-to-work isn't going to bring back those jobs.

Do I think the people in the hellish poultry processing plants in West Texas could benefit from union membership? Yes. Do I want to deal with a member of the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers taking a union break every half hour when I just want my porch light fixed? No.
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