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Question: Abortion Policy?
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Pro-Choice
 
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Pro-Choice, with exceptions
 
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Somewhere in between
 
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Pro-Life, with exceptions
 
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Pro-Life
 
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angus
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« on: September 16, 2013, 07:39:24 PM »


Don't get any bimbos pregnant.  Godawful.  I'll have to deal with that soon enough.  Like living my own adolescence all over again.  The boy's only eight now, but time flies.  Ah, at least he's not a girl.  Gotta be worse to be a pregnant bimbo than the one who impregnated her.

I grudgingly call myself "pro choice."  I'm astonished that we're still having this argument.  There are enough people already.  Accidental pregnancies can be dispatched safely, legally, and with minimal cost.  I'm generally against socialized medicine, but I make an exception here.  Certainly the one-time $350 fee is preferable to the taxpayers than the tens of thousands of dollars per year for 18 years that it will cost the taxpayers to nurture the unwanted progeny of a parent not yet ready to be a parent.  And let's not even get started on the big dollars we'll spend on incarceration of the adult which evolves from the unloved and unwanted child.

Someone mentioned parental notification.  I strongly agree with that and would vote for its requirement in a binding referendum.  We're a very litigious society.  You can't even get a nose job without a parent's signature if you're under 18.  No reason to exclude fetal abortions.  No parent will force his child to abort.  Some might refuse to give the consent to abort, but we'll have to live with that.  Yes I recognize that a small subset of pregnant teens might then resort to illegal, unsafe back-alley abortions, but you have to take the crunchy with the smooth.  Parents are blindsided enough by the increasingly collectivist rules of society without having to accept medical doctrinaire.  On parental notification, I'm a strict conservative--Mostly because children are just that:  children.  If my child leaves a flaming bag of shit on your doorstep and rings a bell and runs away, I get sued, not him.  That's the reality and, frankly, it's fair since parents are morally and ethically responsible for their progeny.  All the more reason for a liberal abortion policy--but overall I'm pretty much with the Liberal mindset on this issue.  Provide funding for those who cannot afford abortions, so long as we can make sure that they're clean and safe, of course, but do not force people to abort if they have genuine inhibitions about it. 

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« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2013, 07:54:11 PM »

Indeed.
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« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2013, 11:28:23 AM »

no angry mob outside the door calling her a slut...

That probably deserves its own thread.  While I generally agree that abortions should be safe and legal, I think the bill of rights guarantees the liberty of angry mobs outside clinic doors to call her a slut.
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« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2013, 12:00:06 PM »

Pro-choice during the first two trimesters, pro-life except for risk to the mother's life in the third trimester.

That's pro-choice.

It's just like someone saying they are "mostly pro-life" when they want a comprehensive abortion ban with a "maternal life" exception (see Treyvon Martin, apparently).

Anything more pro-choice than that is really just pro-death or a baby hater, the same way anyone more "pro-life" than that is just pro-death or a woman hater.


I don't think it's so simple at all.  Some folks reach the conclusion, through deeply-held moral convictions, that fetal abortion is like murder, always wrong.  They are not woman-haters or death mongers.  There have also been states that encourage abortions of any pregnancies after the first successful one, usually for population control.  They are not "pro death" just because they wonder how they're going to feed millions of people.  There are also many attitudes when it comes to abortion funding, and many rationales behind those attitudes.  It's a very complicated issue, like most issues, and people don't always agree.  Even when they end up voting the same way on a bill, it may have been very different lines of reasoning that brought them to their conclusions.

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« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2013, 11:39:25 AM »

Generally, I am worried about people who are so anti-abortion that they will give fetuses a greater right to life than born people or those are so pro-abortion that they will allow for infanticide.

Everyone is worried about folks who don't see things like they do.  Otherwise, what's the point of arrogance?
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