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« Reply #25 on: September 17, 2013, 07:00:02 PM »

For a national Democratic candidate? Probably.

That won't stop Democrats from running candidates that are against gay marriage in states where they probably could run a candidate for it.
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« Reply #26 on: September 17, 2013, 07:12:41 PM »

Of course it is. They continue to purge moderates.

...you're kidding, right? The Democratic Party is center-right by every meaningful definition and has been since Clinton's policy of triangulation at home and imperialism abroad.
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« Reply #27 on: September 17, 2013, 07:15:20 PM »

Of course it is. They continue to purge moderates.

...you're kidding, right? The Democratic Party is center-right by every meaningful definition and has been since Clinton's policy of triangulation at home and imperialism abroad.

Yeah for real. The Republican one is the one purging moderates.
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« Reply #28 on: September 17, 2013, 07:15:59 PM »

Yes. I would certainly oppose them in the primary for this reason alone, and consider voting third party if they somehow got the nomination.
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« Reply #29 on: September 17, 2013, 07:47:46 PM »

Of course it is. They continue to purge moderates.

...you're kidding, right? The Democratic Party is center-right by every meaningful definition and has been since Clinton's policy of triangulation at home and imperialism abroad.

Yeah for real. The Republican one is the one purging moderates.

Phil is just trolling like usual.
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« Reply #30 on: September 17, 2013, 09:02:57 PM »

I am proud that in the Democratic Party we are now pushing for full equality.  And I cannot imagine the 2016 Democratic nominee opposing same-sex marriage.  Every single rumored 2016 candidate:  Clinton, Biden, Cuomo, Warren, O'Malley, Gillibrand, etc. all support same-sex marriage.  That's not a coincidence.
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« Reply #31 on: September 17, 2013, 09:07:25 PM »

In first-in-the-nation New Hampshire, 82% of Obama voters, 78% of Democrats, and even 72% of moderates support gay marriage. In the South, the Democratic party is about split down the middle -- half support gay marriage, half oppose.

The numbers just aren't there for a Democrat to oppose gay marriage anymore.
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« Reply #32 on: September 17, 2013, 10:49:25 PM »

I am proud that in the Democratic Party we are now pushing for full equality.  And I cannot imagine the 2016 Democratic nominee opposing same-sex marriage.  Every single rumored 2016 candidate:  Clinton, Biden, Cuomo, Warren, O'Malley, Gillibrand, etc. all support same-sex marriage.  That's not a coincidence.

They've pushed for equality, but pushed away anyone who disagrees with them on this position. It's terrible.
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« Reply #33 on: September 17, 2013, 11:27:36 PM »

I am proud that in the Democratic Party we are now pushing for full equality.  And I cannot imagine the 2016 Democratic nominee opposing same-sex marriage.  Every single rumored 2016 candidate:  Clinton, Biden, Cuomo, Warren, O'Malley, Gillibrand, etc. all support same-sex marriage.  That's not a coincidence.

They've pushed for equality, but pushed away anyone who disagrees with them on this position. It's terrible.

Yes, how terrible that bigots don't feel welcome in the Democratic Party. Sad
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« Reply #34 on: September 18, 2013, 06:04:18 AM »

I am proud that in the Democratic Party we are now pushing for full equality.  And I cannot imagine the 2016 Democratic nominee opposing same-sex marriage.  Every single rumored 2016 candidate:  Clinton, Biden, Cuomo, Warren, O'Malley, Gillibrand, etc. all support same-sex marriage.  That's not a coincidence.

They've pushed for equality, but pushed away anyone who disagrees with them on this position. It's terrible.

Yes, how terrible that bigots don't feel welcome in the Democratic Party. Sad

The GOP is pushing out all their moderates, extremists bastards... Boy I hate those f[inks]ing DINOs who don't like marriage equality, they shouldn't be Democrats.
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« Reply #35 on: September 18, 2013, 07:15:21 AM »

I am proud that in the Democratic Party we are now pushing for full equality.  And I cannot imagine the 2016 Democratic nominee opposing same-sex marriage.  Every single rumored 2016 candidate:  Clinton, Biden, Cuomo, Warren, O'Malley, Gillibrand, etc. all support same-sex marriage.  That's not a coincidence.

They've pushed for equality, but pushed away anyone who disagrees with them on this position. It's terrible.

Yes, how terrible that bigots don't feel welcome in the Democratic Party. Sad

The GOP is pushing out all their moderates, extremists bastards... Boy I hate those f[inks]ing DINOs who don't like marriage equality, they shouldn't be Democrats.

This is a stupid comparison ... Marriage equality is an issue of fundamental human rights.
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« Reply #36 on: September 18, 2013, 07:38:32 AM »

I am proud that in the Democratic Party we are now pushing for full equality.  And I cannot imagine the 2016 Democratic nominee opposing same-sex marriage.  Every single rumored 2016 candidate:  Clinton, Biden, Cuomo, Warren, O'Malley, Gillibrand, etc. all support same-sex marriage.  That's not a coincidence.

Given as the Democratic Party is capitalist, this is blatantly dishonest.
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« Reply #37 on: September 18, 2013, 07:41:32 AM »

I am proud that in the Democratic Party we are now pushing for full equality.  And I cannot imagine the 2016 Democratic nominee opposing same-sex marriage.  Every single rumored 2016 candidate:  Clinton, Biden, Cuomo, Warren, O'Malley, Gillibrand, etc. all support same-sex marriage.  That's not a coincidence.

They've pushed for equality, but pushed away anyone who disagrees with them on this position. It's terrible.

Yes, how terrible that bigots don't feel welcome in the Democratic Party. Sad

The GOP is pushing out all their moderates, extremists bastards... Boy I hate those f[inks]ing DINOs who don't like marriage equality, they shouldn't be Democrats.

This is a stupid comparison ... Marriage equality is an issue of fundamental human rights.

So's gun rights or pro life to the GOP, it doesn't change the political makeup of the nation.
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« Reply #38 on: September 18, 2013, 12:28:32 PM »

Of course it is. They continue to purge moderates.

...you're kidding, right? The Democratic Party is center-right by every meaningful definition and has been since Clinton's policy of triangulation at home and imperialism abroad.

Yeah for real. The Republican one is the one purging moderates.

Phil is just trolling like usual.

Purists:

Yes. I would certainly oppose them in the primary for this reason alone, and consider voting third party if they somehow got the nomination.

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« Reply #39 on: September 18, 2013, 01:44:11 PM »

Of course it is. They continue to purge moderates.

...you're kidding, right? The Democratic Party is center-right by every meaningful definition and has been since Clinton's policy of triangulation at home and imperialism abroad.

Yeah for real. The Republican one is the one purging moderates.

Phil is just trolling like usual.

Purists:

Yes. I would certainly oppose them in the primary for this reason alone, and consider voting third party if they somehow got the nomination.

Opposing gay marriages is just a bigoted position. Opposing someone with those views is different from launching primary challenges against anyone who dares to work with a President who is of the opposite political party. Those sorts of frivolous challenges happen much more frequently in the Republican party as opposed to the Democratic party.
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« Reply #40 on: September 18, 2013, 02:17:43 PM »
« Edited: September 18, 2013, 02:24:04 PM by Torie »

Of course it is. They continue to purge moderates.

...you're kidding, right? The Democratic Party is center-right by every meaningful definition and has been since Clinton's policy of triangulation at home and imperialism abroad.

Yeah for real. The Republican one is the one purging moderates.

Phil is just trolling like usual.

Purists:

Yes. I would certainly oppose them in the primary for this reason alone, and consider voting third party if they somehow got the nomination.

Opposing gay marriages is just a bigoted position. Opposing someone with those views is different from launching primary challenges against anyone who dares to work with a President who is of the opposite political party. Those sorts of frivolous challenges happen much more frequently in the Republican party as opposed to the Democratic party.

It's still f'ing remarkable to me how in so sort a time support of SSM in the Dem party at least, went from being a minority position the better to be closeted as politically inconvenient, to being a matter of conscience akin to racial discrimination, where to hold an anti SSM marriage position, is just inimical to a core belief of most party adherents. It would be interesting to ponder just why it changed so fast.

I do know in my experience, that letting folks know that I am gay, or have a bf living with me, or whatever, is about as roiling to the waters as noting that it is an usually hot and humid day. It's a great big so what. And for that, I bow down my head in thanks for the blessings conferred upon me.

Oh, and support of SSM is up to a third among Pubs now, with younger cohorts more favorable than Pub geezers of course. I suspect that will now ratchet up more quickly as the mainstream Pub politician position is to avoid the issue like the plague, and get it the F off the table ASAP.
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« Reply #41 on: September 18, 2013, 02:20:00 PM »

I do know in my experience, that letting folks know that I am gay, or have a bf living with me, or whatever, is about as roiling to the waters as noting that it is an usually hot and humid day. It's a great big so what. And for that, I bow down my head in thanks for the blessings conferred upon me.

When you and Memo tie the knot I want an invitation, old man! 
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« Reply #42 on: September 18, 2013, 02:25:15 PM »

I do know in my experience, that letting folks know that I am gay, or have a bf living with me, or whatever, is about as roiling to the waters as noting that it is an usually hot and humid day. It's a great big so what. And for that, I bow down my head in thanks for the blessings conferred upon me.

When you and Memo tie the knot I want an invitation, old man! 

It's Dan. I have many men in my life - many. Cheers. And thanks for the kind sentiment by the way. I appreciate it. Smiley
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« Reply #43 on: September 18, 2013, 02:40:04 PM »

Civil unions is the moderate position not opposition to same sex marriage.
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« Reply #44 on: September 18, 2013, 04:10:17 PM »

Civil unions is the moderate position not opposition to same sex marriage.

Separate but equal.
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« Reply #45 on: September 18, 2013, 04:31:21 PM »

Of course it is. They continue to purge moderates.

...you're kidding, right? The Democratic Party is center-right by every meaningful definition and has been since Clinton's policy of triangulation at home and imperialism abroad.

Yeah for real. The Republican one is the one purging moderates.

Phil is just trolling like usual.

Purists:

Yes. I would certainly oppose them in the primary for this reason alone, and consider voting third party if they somehow got the nomination.

Opposing gay marriages is just a bigoted position. Opposing someone with those views is different from launching primary challenges against anyone who dares to work with a President who is of the opposite political party. Those sorts of frivolous challenges happen much more frequently in the Republican party as opposed to the Democratic party.

Predictably, purism is only bad when the side you despise practices it.

If a right winger believes that abortion is the taking of an innocent life and wants a Pro Choice Republican defeated, you'd cry about ridiculous litmus tests. I'm supposed to respect your opinion that ousting someone because of one issue is acceptable but you can't wrap your mind around when Republicans do it on any issue, right?
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« Reply #46 on: September 18, 2013, 04:42:45 PM »

Civil unions is the moderate position not opposition to same sex marriage.

63% of U.S. moderates support making gay marriage legal in all 50 states. Gay marriage is the moderate position.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/163730/back-law-legalize-gay-marriage-states.aspx
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« Reply #47 on: September 18, 2013, 04:52:24 PM »

Civil unions is the moderate position not opposition to same sex marriage.

63% of U.S. moderates support making gay marriage legal in all 50 states. Gay marriage is the moderate position.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/163730/back-law-legalize-gay-marriage-states.aspx

Can we call you Mr. Moderate again?
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« Reply #48 on: September 18, 2013, 05:33:21 PM »

Of course it is. They continue to purge moderates.

Good try, Phil.
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« Reply #49 on: September 18, 2013, 05:42:03 PM »

Of course it is. They continue to purge moderates.

...you're kidding, right? The Democratic Party is center-right by every meaningful definition and has been since Clinton's policy of triangulation at home and imperialism abroad.

Center-Right? Why do you think the democratic party is somehow moderate? Even around the world, they take center-left positions.
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