Are Catholics a minority in the US?

[dazzleman]

As has been pointed out, technically every religion is a minority because no religion has 50%+ of the population.

But in this context, minority usually means a group outside the mainstream of society.  While this used to be true of Catholics to some extent, it is no longer the case, so no, Catholics are not a minority.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

As has been pointed out, technically every religion is a minority because no religion has 50%+ of the population.

But in this context, minority usually means a group outside the mainstream of society.  While this used to be true of Catholics to some extent, it is no longer the case, so no, Catholics are not a minority.

wow, for once we agree.

anyone want to argue that I am more in the mainstream than soulty?

[phk]

I wouldn't say Catholics aren't a minority, if you count the various divisions of Protestantism differently; [Lutheran, Baptist, Episcopalian, Quaker, Methodist].

[12th Doctor]

As has been pointed out, technically every religion is a minority because no religion has 50%+ of the population.

But in this context, minority usually means a group outside the mainstream of society.  While this used to be true of Catholics to some extent, it is no longer the case, so no, Catholics are not a minority.

Are blacks totally out of the main strea, of society?

[phk]

As has been pointed out, technically every religion is a minority because no religion has 50%+ of the population.

But in this context, minority usually means a group outside the mainstream of society.  While this used to be true of Catholics to some extent, it is no longer the case, so no, Catholics are not a minority.

Are blacks totally out of the main strea, of society?

In Idaho, yes. In Mississippi, no.

There largely exists a population distribution problem.

[bgwah]

I don't really consider them a minority, but yeah they are.

[dazzleman]

As has been pointed out, technically every religion is a minority because no religion has 50%+ of the population.

But in this context, minority usually means a group outside the mainstream of society.  While this used to be true of Catholics to some extent, it is no longer the case, so no, Catholics are not a minority.

Are blacks totally out of the main strea, of society?

Unfortunately, the answer is largely yes.  For the most part, blacks and whites do not live in the same neighborhoods, attend the same schools, or socialize together to a large degree.  Black isolation from mainstream society also has a psychological component, in that black perceptions of different events are often radically different from those of whites.  The OJ Simpson case is a prominent example, but there are many others.

[dazzleman]

As has been pointed out, technically every religion is a minority because no religion has 50%+ of the population.

But in this context, minority usually means a group outside the mainstream of society.  While this used to be true of Catholics to some extent, it is no longer the case, so no, Catholics are not a minority.

wow, for once we agree.

anyone want to argue that I am more in the mainstream than soulty?

No, I don't think I'd make that argument.  All in all, Supersoulty is far more in the mainstream than you, notwithstanding my agreement with you on this one issue.

[Bono]

My asshole Asst. Principle tried to tell me to stop making fun of a kid because he was a Mormon. In his little world, only kids who follow a less than mainstream religion can't be made fun of.  I tried to tell him my Maryland accent made me an oppresed minority in the school.  For some reason he didn't buy it

You make fun of a kid because he's a mormon?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

As has been pointed out, technically every religion is a minority because no religion has 50%+ of the population.

But in this context, minority usually means a group outside the mainstream of society.  While this used to be true of Catholics to some extent, it is no longer the case, so no, Catholics are not a minority.

wow, for once we agree.

anyone want to argue that I am more in the mainstream than soulty?

No, I don't think I'd make that argument.  All in all, Supersoulty is far more in the mainstream than you, notwithstanding my agreement with you on this one issue.

Yeah that's my point. Soulty seems to think he's more out of the mainstream than me because he's Catholic and I'm Protestant.

[dazzleman]

My asshole Asst. Principle tried to tell me to stop making fun of a kid because he was a Mormon. In his little world, only kids who follow a less than mainstream religion can't be made fun of.  I tried to tell him my Maryland accent made me an oppresed minority in the school.  For some reason he didn't buy it

Dude, what's wrong with being a Mormon?

[Jake]

My asshole Asst. Principle tried to tell me to stop making fun of a kid because he was a Mormon. In his little world, only kids who follow a less than mainstream religion can't be made fun of.  I tried to tell him my Maryland accent made me an oppresed minority in the school.  For some reason he didn't buy it

You make fun of a kid because he's a mormon?

I made fun of the kid because he acted like a goon and tried the hang around with me all the time. When I told him to back off, he didn't so my character flaws took over. 

[Jake]

My asshole Asst. Principle tried to tell me to stop making fun of a kid because he was a Mormon. In his little world, only kids who follow a less than mainstream religion can't be made fun of.  I tried to tell him my Maryland accent made me an oppresed minority in the school.  For some reason he didn't buy it

Dude, what's wrong with being a Mormon?

Nothing, why. All those religion surveys put me as a Mormon right after Catholicism.

[dazzleman]

My asshole Asst. Principle tried to tell me to stop making fun of a kid because he was a Mormon. In his little world, only kids who follow a less than mainstream religion can't be made fun of.  I tried to tell him my Maryland accent made me an oppresed minority in the school.  For some reason he didn't buy it

Dude, what's wrong with being a Mormon?

Nothing, why. All those religion surveys put me as a Mormon right after Catholicism.

Listen man, we've been over this before.  Stop getting in trouble in school. 

At least all the Asst. Principal did was yell at you.  If it were me, I would have ended up on some after-school chain gang.  You don't have it so bad, dude.

[PADem]

What super was probably referring to was ethnicities associated with Catholicism, such as Italians, Irish, etc. not Catholicism itself. These things sometimes get mixed-up since there really are so few conversions.

Yes, that is exactly what I was refereing to.  Had anyone have bother to read it.

And, oh yeah, you really took me to task AuH20.  Let me tell you.

How old are you again?

Wait, this is coming from the guy who called me "dumby soulty" and pointed out a minor mistake in my word usage.

Aren't you two on the same side?

Are you on the same side as jfern?

I think so. He's a Democrat isn't he?

[KEmperor]

What super was probably referring to was ethnicities associated with Catholicism, such as Italians, Irish, etc. not Catholicism itself. These things sometimes get mixed-up since there really are so few conversions.

Yes, that is exactly what I was refereing to.  Had anyone have bother to read it.

And, oh yeah, you really took me to task AuH20.  Let me tell you.

How old are you again?

Wait, this is coming from the guy who called me "dumby soulty" and pointed out a minor mistake in my word usage.

Aren't you two on the same side?

Are you on the same side as jfern?

I think so. He's a Democrat isn't he?

So you agree with everything he says then?

[phk]

What super was probably referring to was ethnicities associated with Catholicism, such as Italians, Irish, etc. not Catholicism itself. These things sometimes get mixed-up since there really are so few conversions.

Yes, that is exactly what I was refereing to.  Had anyone have bother to read it.

And, oh yeah, you really took me to task AuH20.  Let me tell you.

How old are you again?

Wait, this is coming from the guy who called me "dumby soulty" and pointed out a minor mistake in my word usage.

Aren't you two on the same side?

Are you on the same side as jfern?

I think so. He's a Democrat isn't he?

So you agree with everything he says then?

Yes, I'm a lot like the reverse GW Bush.

[12th Doctor]

As has been pointed out, technically every religion is a minority because no religion has 50%+ of the population.

But in this context, minority usually means a group outside the mainstream of society.  While this used to be true of Catholics to some extent, it is no longer the case, so no, Catholics are not a minority.

wow, for once we agree.

anyone want to argue that I am more in the mainstream than soulty?

No, I don't think I'd make that argument.  All in all, Supersoulty is far more in the mainstream than you, notwithstanding my agreement with you on this one issue.

Yeah that's my point. Soulty seems to think he's more out of the mainstream than me because he's Catholic and I'm Protestant.

Funny, never seem to recall saying that.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

If Catholics are a minority than by definition you are. I'm a white heterosexual Protestant male. How much more mainstream can you get? Well except for the fact I'm a left wing extremist socialist. But I chose to be that. Just as you chose to be Catholic.

[dazzleman]

If Catholics are a minority than by definition you are. I'm a white heterosexual Protestant male. How much more mainstream can you get? Well except for the fact I'm a left wing extremist socialist. But I chose to be that. Just as you chose to be Catholic.

You make a good point - that in an ideal situation, being a minority in many ways is a state of mind.  Either that or it should be.

The bad part is when people are not allowed to be part of the mainstream because of their ethnic background.

Parties try to set the definition of what is outside the mainstream.  The left, right now, is trying to define all serious Christians, and that includes Catholics, as being outside the mainstream, and being a (disfavored) minority group (as opposed to the "minority" groups that the left deems worthy of automatic favor).

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

you love to generalize. Like I've said many times, I am Christian. Why the hell would I want to do that?

[dazzleman]

Any can call himself a Christian.  I am not saying you are not one.  However, the left has displayed a strong hostility to traditional Christian teaching.

This is not a black-and-white issue, and I recognize that.  Different interpretations of Christian teachings in the past have been discredited over time.  But in the left, I sense a strong hostility to Christian teaching over basic matters, such as the idea that we owe something to God, rather than just to ourselves.  Many on the left push what amounts to a separate religion, under the false guise of removing religion from public life, which is a bad goal in and of itself.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

But in the left, I sense a strong hostility to Christian teaching over basic matters, such as the idea that we owe something to God, rather than just to ourselves.

actually the complete opposite of that would be Objectivism. It's not the left that's self-centered.