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« Reply #100 on: October 16, 2013, 02:23:40 PM »

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« Reply #101 on: October 17, 2013, 06:57:22 PM »

3-2-1-4

Maxwell, Napoleon, TJ in CLeve, and Xahar have not voted yet.
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« Reply #102 on: October 17, 2013, 08:11:30 PM »

I'm not sure we should be running into this with sanctions. However, the military restrictions have been moved to partial, which is good, and I'd prefer a strong cut to military aid and bases across the globe. That being said,

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« Reply #103 on: October 17, 2013, 09:07:36 PM »

Aye

As imperfect as this compromise is, it may end up working out for the best if we can prod Israel toward negotiations in a relatively gentle manner. This is an issue where it can be difficult to find middle ground and I think this version of the amendment is the best compromise I've seen to this point. Not that compromise is always good, but we've tried the other route with this resolution before and it's gone nowhere.
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« Reply #104 on: October 20, 2013, 05:27:43 PM »

Vote on amendment 57:32 by bore:

Aye (4): bore, Gass3268, TJ in Cleve and TNF
Nay (2): NC Yankee and Tmthforu94
Abstain (1) sbane

Didn't Vote (3): Maxwell, Napoleon and Xahar

The amendment has been adopted.


Topic Line Change, Mr. VP.
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« Reply #105 on: October 20, 2013, 05:39:40 PM »

I would appreciate SoEA's analysis on how the current wording would affect our relationship with Israel, especially considering how unstable their current government is.
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« Reply #106 on: October 20, 2013, 05:59:57 PM »
« Edited: October 20, 2013, 06:49:08 PM by SJoyce »

I would appreciate SoEA's analysis on how the current wording would affect our relationship with Israel, especially considering how unstable their current government is.

Obviously none of them are pleased with it. I don't believe it'll cause any significant damage if I can work fast enough to resolve negotiations and get sanctions lifted. The previous form would have been devastating, but since this sets conditions and a timetable to do so it should be fairly workable. We already have the basis of a territorial map in the works, and if it can pass the Knesset (and Abbas may be planning a popular referendum in Palestine), then that should fulfill much of the language laid out in the FPR - at least based on my interpretation of the phrase settlement building, the largest blocs being annexed/integrated and the remainder dismantled would meet the conditions. It's largely in their hands now, and this may give them an incentive to work quickly.

Any temporary security concerns as a result of this legislation should be countered by the recent deployment of peacekeeping forces to Palestine. These forces, along with forces from other Quartet members including Russia and the European Union, will conduct anti-political violence operations in the West Bank to ensure security and stability while the accords are being drawn up.
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« Reply #107 on: October 21, 2013, 07:05:15 PM »

So what now?
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« Reply #108 on: October 21, 2013, 07:13:07 PM »

I think I could vote for this but I am still skeptical whether full sanctions will ever go into place.
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« Reply #109 on: October 21, 2013, 07:29:14 PM »

The result or the instrument?
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« Reply #110 on: October 22, 2013, 05:22:02 PM »

If there is nothing else to be done on this, I am going to open a final vote soon.
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« Reply #111 on: October 22, 2013, 05:34:25 PM »

I would love to get this over with.
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« Reply #112 on: October 22, 2013, 05:58:24 PM »

If the VP doesn't have it going by say midnight or 11:30ish, I will start it for him then.
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« Reply #113 on: October 22, 2013, 05:59:41 PM »

If there is nothing else to be done on this, I am going to open a final vote soon.
I will not be staging a Ted Cruz here. Wink
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« Reply #114 on: October 22, 2013, 06:29:23 PM »


Huh?

I just don't know whether the SoEA will follow up on this and whether the Senate will impose the sanctions in December or January or whenever the deadline was. I won't be here to regulate it. Hopefully TNF continues his good work then and makes sure we hold them accountable.
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« Reply #115 on: October 22, 2013, 07:01:07 PM »

Okay! I've been following this, and I thought you guys wanted to keep it going till the New Year! Tongue

We're at final vote, then: Yes. no, or neither. Go!
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« Reply #116 on: October 22, 2013, 07:03:47 PM »

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« Reply #117 on: October 22, 2013, 07:04:00 PM »

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« Reply #118 on: October 22, 2013, 07:19:07 PM »

Flawed but Aye
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« Reply #119 on: October 22, 2013, 07:37:12 PM »

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« Reply #120 on: October 22, 2013, 09:01:04 PM »

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« Reply #121 on: October 22, 2013, 09:03:38 PM »

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« Reply #122 on: October 22, 2013, 11:45:57 PM »

Reluctant Aye


You can call 24 hours on vote changes. Actually I'll just do that myself to save time.


24 hours to change votes, Go!
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« Reply #123 on: October 23, 2013, 07:56:06 AM »

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« Reply #124 on: October 23, 2013, 02:43:32 PM »

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